Theignson wrote: »

So my reaction initially was, you have to get stacks for Relequen to be great, and its hard to do in PvP.

Until yesterday in GH, when I ran into TWO Identically built Sorcs ganking and....you guessed it... both in Relequens.

They had identical setup and spells and they procced me to oblivion.

Here is what these bowsorcs were using: Relequens, NMG, and Jeralls with master bow back bar . This at least is what I deduced. Constantly I had minor.major breech on me, plus XX Malady, plus double stacks of Relequens..

I am not sure whether the stacks from both of them contributed to the ten stack limit but either way it was was a big mismatched 2v1.

Now soon you'll see wolf packs all in relequens... you heard it here first

I do appreciate the share and the details! That being said this story is probably more about what two coordinated players can do vs one. Off the top of my head they could be wearing knight slayer and still get the kill if they are coordinating movement, ults, etc or even with little coordination to by honest.


I'll say it again, I play against some of the sweatiest players in the game and this set doesn't make an appearance.


Meanwhile I've been continuously seen Procanist, Hrothgar, Vate, Master DW, apparently anything that hits hard on a bow build slapped on NB, etc regularly.

If the Rele meta were coming it would be here already lol.

Oblivion_Protocol wrote: »

Bushido2513 wrote: »

I’ll say it again, I play against some of the sweatiest players in the game and this set doesn't make an appearance.


Meanwhile I've been continuously seen Procanist, Hrothgar, Vate, Master DW, apparently anything that hits hard on a bow build slapped on NB, etc regularly.

If the Rele meta were coming it would be here already lol.

Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist or that other people don’t find it oppressive.

Yes, the usual cheese is more prevalent. But smaller problems are still problems that need to be solved.

I'm not saying this set has never gotten any kills. I managed to get a few kills with it in testing.

Obviously if I killed someone then maybe somewhere that person is saying man that set was oppressive when it killed me. But that doesn't indicate that it's a real problem in the bigger picture.

What does indicate that it's not as big an issue is that it's not making it to as many deaths recaps as the other things I mentioned. I have several recent recordings of PVP of different types and this set is barely in any of them. The same is seen when I watch other's recorded content and streams across various platforms.

All of the cheese I stated can easily be found in content. You can't even really find a build video or page that suggest putting this on for PVP.

StaticWave wrote: »

I already warned about this months ago but the forums always does what it does best

I'd still rather be focused down by 2 Rele Sorcs than stalemated by 2 guys healing each other.