No thanks.

jy82988ub17_ESO wrote: »

It really was a terrible idea on their part to just skip over such a great feature. I hate, hate, hate being in 3-5 guilds and just having *** spamming my screen from zone, to whispers to guild chat all-the-damn-time!

I agree-- and beyond that, gold farmers constantly have /zone chat in a choke hold so WTS messages get pushed right away, and you can't even sell that way!

And even the whole "guild sales" setup (being so limited in reach and scope) and its lack of search functioning makes the whole thing puny and worthless.

This whole situation is medieval, especially where most MMOs are F2P and they have fully-featured, server-wide auction houses. Just put in an auction house here for Pete's sake. We have all figured out by now that the megaserver can't handle a large database, so add a separate cluster to host an auction house on. Even a three-faction AH would be worlds better than the useless nothing we have now.

AH layout currently in guild is HORRIBLE!

I get my money from zone chat, never got anything reasonable from the multi-guild AH.

The problem is that Keeps in Cyrodiil can't be used as a public store front.
...no, that's the problem. Really, that's all it is.

Yeah, because no other game that actually uses an AH has people in chat going "WTS [X]". This argument is old and beat to death by both sides. Zenimax has already stated they have plans to work on improving the guild stores in a future patch but don't have any plans on implementing a megaserver-wide AH. Plus it's nice not having monopolies on items or not having standard prices for things (rare motifs go anywhere from 15k-25k for barbaric/primal and 30k-55k for daedric/ancient elf). That and I don't even use the guild stores that are ingame because there's nothing I want that I myself can't make or find.

I like the fact that gold is harder to obtain. It makes it more valuable and makes me really think about strategies and such because of the repair costs associated with death and failure. Everyone who "demands a common AH" is too scared to accept that fact that this game is doing something different. It forces you to actually interact and hold discussions with people when it comes to trade. It forces bartering in a lot of cases which is more fun for me versus going to an AH and seeing the same item x 645 all for roughly the same price with a 1g differential between them in same cases.

Laura wrote: »

like it the way it is. I didn't use to. learn to adapt and interact with the player base

We used that same primitive system almost 10 years ago. Its not an improvement its a massive downgrade as far MMO progression goes.

It's kinda like buying a new car but the radio has a cassette and 8 track installed with no option for a CD played unless you install it yourself.

That being said they rather:
A. Didn't have the resources-time for a better one.
B. Pulled another "we with give them the tool's and let them make it for us" threw private mods and such.

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

dreildragb14_ESO wrote: »

Laura wrote: »

like it the way it is. I didn't use to. learn to adapt and interact with the player base

We used that same primitive system almost 10 years ago. Its not an improvement its a massive downgrade as far MMO progression goes.

It's kinda like buying a new car but the radio has a cassette and 8 track installed with no option for a CD played unless you install it yourself.

That being said they rather:
A. Didn't have the resources-time for a better one.
B. Pulled another "we with give them the tool's and let them make it for us" threw private mods and such.

Right, they announced that it was going to work this way almost a year in advance because they just couldn't be bothered.

It's a design choice. You don't like it? Fine. But don't pretend that it's something kind of oversight.

Agreed. Primitive isn't necessarily bad.

It makes the world seem larger and more untamed when everybody isn't connected in every possible way through magical metagame systems.

Hell my biggest issue about the GAH is lack of option to search by name. If I could click something like ore, search just that and filter prices im a happy camper.

I'll address the OP with as much thought as he gave when making this thread and formulating his argument:

No.

At the very least keep the current 'structure' and introduce a way for guilds to open trade routes between each other.

So, guilds would need to virtually meet and agree to connect (trade) and now you added another 'guild store' to yours!

This way you give the community the choice of globalization or isolation.

Thoughts?

I don't care what system they implement, I just want a way to sell things to the public other than spamming zone chat. Almost no one is using the system as intended because people who like crafting are typically not going to be selling things in the PVP zones.

Trading guilds are, for the most part, limited to people selling anonymously over guild stores. Searching for things in these stores is incredibly limited. Besides that, if you're a slow leveler, there is no way to sell your goods because you're limited to the same 500 people in your trading guild, unless it's rigorously scanned for inactive players.

The whole system is just very inconvenient right now. I think if they added better search functions and a way to sell to the public in PVE zones, I'd be a lot happier.

Maybe if those trading guilds would focus on certain areas instead of just getting zerg rushed with 500 random people's random junk they'd get somewhere.

Blacksmith's Guild, only sells items related to blacksmithing.
Alchemy Guild, only sells items related to alchemy.

Etc. The way the crafting system is, it's silly to make a full set of anything with traits and enchant and then sit there having it take up space while you try to sell it. Take orders instead of trying to mass produce.

Global AH is just plain lazy. It's not a "necessary feature of any modern MMO", it's a rather crummy solution to players being lazy, and it causes its own share of problems.

They said in a recent podcast that they don't want players to play the AH but the game. That's why an AH is unlikely at the moment.

A major issue with the current system is accessibility. If you don't join a guild, you cant trade. It would make sense to open public trade post´s, but those are flying merchants, so you never know if you come across one.

Players could sell an item to the merchants and that merchants sells it to another player. Only one item per player and the merchant would need to be totally random in its whereabouts.

An AH like at wow or SWTOR wouldn't fit into TESO universe if you ask me.

Something I keep seeing "This is how it used to be years ago and you should just learn how to use it and adapt."

There is a reason that MMO's do not use this type of AH anymore, BECAUSE IT'S HORRIBLE!

I shouldn't have to to download a add-on to do a basic search function.
I shouldn't have to use a 3rd party site to buy and sell actions. (Which Zeni supports, and I couldn't believe that they would support a 3rd party site)

And I shouldn't have to search thru 5 guilds, taking a lot of my time in-game to list a few auctions.

Also not giving us a Trade channel...... Really????

i hear people crying about this a lot..but honestly i have NO ISSUES selling anything. i do not spam zone i post once every 10 mins or so and i am not in a trade guild so i dont have that. despite all that i still make 80k+ a day off my crafted items.