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Monday 21 April '14 Patch Notes?

  • theinsaneb16_ESO
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    And this is why they can't win. Yesterday there were numerous threads saying to take the game down and fix the loading screen problems.

    Did they take them down yesterday for that and tomorrow for the regular maintenance? no, they did the sensible thing and combined the much needed fix for the loading screens with the patch and maintenance due tomorrow, and now they get slammed for it.

    Rock ---- Zenimax ---- Hard place

    No. If they picked their times for the minimal impact on customers they would not be getting a hard time. Instead they schedule them for their own reasons. This is what irritates some people.

    Their way they have staff working the USA small hours. If they patched in the Euro small hours it would be late night US working. Neither is staff convenient but in the end staff/company convenience is not a factor. The only factor is delivering a good service to customers.

    Especially customers who could still say - 'screw this for a game of soldiers' and not sub.


    Exactly! Now once again can we pls have a time that we can get online?
  • Grubsnik
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    As someone who was playing on EU last night, it was pretty obvious that they needed to reboot the server and fix up some stuff. Lag was reaching silly levels. at one point, we had two out of four people showing up as offline, even though we were all in the game. You couldn't leave dungeons without relogging and in 50% of times going from a public zone to a different public zone would leave you stuck on a permanent loading screen.

    When they had these issues on friday, they immediately went to work, and everyone was pissed that the servers were down from all evening. So this time they learned. Let the server limp along most of the night and THEN went to work.

    I'm also a little sad that the server isn't up when I want to play (kid is napping, so had a 1-1½ hour window this morning), but I'll live, especially if it means I can get a decent playing experience tonight instead of having to close the game client and restart.
  • SirJesto
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    Grubsnik wrote: »
    As someone who was playing on EU last night, it was pretty obvious that they needed to reboot the server and fix up some stuff. Lag was reaching silly levels. at one point, we had two out of four people showing up as offline, even though we were all in the game. You couldn't leave dungeons without relogging and in 50% of times going from a public zone to a different public zone would leave you stuck on a permanent loading screen.

    When they had these issues on friday, they immediately went to work, and everyone was pissed that the servers were down from all evening. So this time they learned. Let the server limp along most of the night and THEN went to work.

    I'm also a little sad that the server isn't up when I want to play (kid is napping, so had a 1-1½ hour window this morning), but I'll live, especially if it means I can get a decent playing experience tonight instead of having to close the game client and restart.

    Don't try and be sensible. Not in here!
  • theinsaneb16_ESO
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    Im really getting pissed off here, after many asking this still no comment on to what or where on the timestamp subject.

    Around when will the servers be back up? Some more communication between Bethesda here and customers is advised.

    Pls don't think its logical to only put this on Twitter etc..because not everyone is on twitter or facebook.

    Many mmo companies only do facebook or twitter cause according to them the whole world is on there
  • Softdog
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    Saerydoth wrote: »
    Thunder_Downunder,

    Everyone complains about the bugs and problems with the game and how we need fixes and patches. ZOS works through on a weekend (and a holiday for that matter!) in order to get you these fixes and patches and still the people complain. These downtimes are not that long and they're going to happen sooner or later - it's a fact of online gaming. You paid for this game, yes, and you paid for all the things that come with games of the genre. That includes fixes and patches and downtimes.

    Indeed. ESO downtimes for patches are VERY VERY short. I played WOW for 8 years. Anytime there was a patch, the servers were down for *at least 8 hours*. If it was a major patch (4.1, 5.1, etc), it was often 12 hours. For really major patches (4.0 and 5.0 pre-expansion patches come to mind), it quite often took 16 hours. 4.0 took 24 hours.

    I applaud Zenimax for getting all this done and the servers back up in 3-4 hours. That's *insanely* quick.

    I would agree if there were any major fixes released but with patches at 30-40MB each, I can´t see any reason to these long downtimes. Well.. I can but none that should matter after release date.
  • patrikblb16_ESO
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    We do still plan on posting the patch notes for this maintenance, and will sticky them in the Patch Notes section and Recent Discussions as soon as they're published.

    Where's the fix to the *** crashes when you want to create a guild-only-raid in Cyrodiil with more than 12 members???????????????????????

    Edited by patrikblb16_ESO on 21 April 2014 07:56
  • Sakiri
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    Carafina34 wrote: »
    Saerydoth wrote: »
    Thunder_Downunder,

    Everyone complains about the bugs and problems with the game and how we need fixes and patches. ZOS works through on a weekend (and a holiday for that matter!) in order to get you these fixes and patches and still the people complain. These downtimes are not that long and they're going to happen sooner or later - it's a fact of online gaming. You paid for this game, yes, and you paid for all the things that come with games of the genre. That includes fixes and patches and downtimes.

    Indeed. ESO downtimes for patches are VERY VERY short. I played WOW for 8 years. Anytime there was a patch, the servers were down for *at least 8 hours*. If it was a major patch (4.1, 5.1, etc), it was often 12 hours. For really major patches (4.0 and 5.0 pre-expansion patches come to mind), it quite often took 16 hours. 4.0 took 24 hours.

    I applaud Zenimax for getting all this done and the servers back up in 3-4 hours. That's *insanely* quick.

    I have also played wow. and thoses 12 hour/ 8 hour patches are true. However they tended to happen every other tuesday, very different from the every other day we see here.
    And b4 people flame, I played wow since bc, gw2 from launch, rift from head start and aion, so i do have a good understanding of games and patching times.

    WoW launch some of the heavier population servers were down for weeks at a time and unplayable at best on others. Bent over for 15 minutes looting one mob... yeah.

  • theinsaneb16_ESO
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    Carafina34 wrote: »
    Saerydoth wrote: »
    Thunder_Downunder,

    Everyone complains about the bugs and problems with the game and how we need fixes and patches. ZOS works through on a weekend (and a holiday for that matter!) in order to get you these fixes and patches and still the people complain. These downtimes are not that long and they're going to happen sooner or later - it's a fact of online gaming. You paid for this game, yes, and you paid for all the things that come with games of the genre. That includes fixes and patches and downtimes.

    Indeed. ESO downtimes for patches are VERY VERY short. I played WOW for 8 years. Anytime there was a patch, the servers were down for *at least 8 hours*. If it was a major patch (4.1, 5.1, etc), it was often 12 hours. For really major patches (4.0 and 5.0 pre-expansion patches come to mind), it quite often took 16 hours. 4.0 took 24 hours.

    I applaud Zenimax for getting all this done and the servers back up in 3-4 hours. That's *insanely* quick.

    I have also played wow. and thoses 12 hour/ 8 hour patches are true. However they tended to happen every other tuesday, very different from the every other day we see here.
    And b4 people flame, I played wow since bc, gw2 from launch, rift from head start and aion, so i do have a good understanding of games and patching times.

    WoW launch some of the heavier population servers were down for weeks at a time and unplayable at best on others. Bent over for 15 minutes looting one mob... yeah.


    No they weren't fanboy lol. You played another wow then we know maybe? They were never ever been down for weeks lol haha
  • stuartoatleyeb17_ESO
    And this is why they can't win. Yesterday there were numerous threads saying to take the game down and fix the loading screen problems.

    Did they take them down yesterday for that and tomorrow for the regular maintenance? no, they did the sensible thing and combined the much needed fix for the loading screens with the patch and maintenance due tomorrow, and now they get slammed for it.

    Rock ---- Zenimax ---- Hard place

    No. If they picked their times for the minimal impact on customers they would not be getting a hard time. Instead they schedule them for their own reasons. This is what irritates some people.

    Their way they have staff working the USA small hours. If they patched in the Euro small hours it would be late night US working. Neither is staff convenient but in the end staff/company convenience is not a factor. The only factor is delivering a good service to customers.

    Especially customers who could still say - 'screw this for a game of soldiers' and not sub.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree that the time of day for the maintenance is far from ideal. The point I was making was that before my post people were complaining that they should have waited till tomorrow, when yesterday people were complaining it needed to come down asap, and that bearing those 2 things in mind they actually did the sensible thing. But yes, doing it a few hours earlier would definitely have been better, as would better communication about why they'd moved the regular maintenance
  • Sakiri
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    And this is why they can't win. Yesterday there were numerous threads saying to take the game down and fix the loading screen problems.

    Did they take them down yesterday for that and tomorrow for the regular maintenance? no, they did the sensible thing and combined the much needed fix for the loading screens with the patch and maintenance due tomorrow, and now they get slammed for it.

    Rock ---- Zenimax ---- Hard place

    No. If they picked their times for the minimal impact on customers they would not be getting a hard time. Instead they schedule them for their own reasons. This is what irritates some people.

    Their way they have staff working the USA small hours. If they patched in the Euro small hours it would be late night US working. Neither is staff convenient but in the end staff/company convenience is not a factor. The only factor is delivering a good service to customers.

    Especially customers who could still say - 'screw this for a game of soldiers' and not sub.

    They *did* pick that time. Server goes down early morning US/while sane people are at work/school in Europe. Thats the majority of the population.

    The fact they oushed a much needed patch a day ahead has people bent out of shape... go spend the day with family or church folks or something. Pascha was today and I ate like a pig after Lent. You dont see me pitching a fit about not getting to play today or tomorrow because of maintenance.
  • Sakiri
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    Im really getting pissed off here, after many asking this still no comment on to what or where on the timestamp subject.

    Around when will the servers be back up? Some more communication between Bethesda here and customers is advised.

    Pls don't think its logical to only put this on Twitter etc..because not everyone is on twitter or facebook.

    Many mmo companies only do facebook or twitter cause according to them the whole world is on there

    Blizzard does ot because posting on the forums gets them dogpiled with kvetching.

    They dont give an eta when they dont have one.

    Again, THEY MOST LIKELY DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG THE SERVERS WILL BE DOWN SO THEY CANNOT SAY.

    Blizzard learned to not give estimates on long maintenance times because when they miss the mark, everyone pitches a fit.

    Terms of service/eula says servers do not have to be available all yhe time. You actually agreef that there would not be guaranteed access on demand.

    The entitlement of some to on demand access all the time pisses me off more than the downtime itself annoys me.

    Yes, theres a lot. No, you guys wouldnt shut up if they waited until Tuesday. Yes, there would be a dozen more threads kvetching about long load times and broken quests. No, Zenimax cant win.

    Did I get everything?
  • patrikblb16_ESO
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    Where's the fix to the *** crashes when you want to create a guild-only-raid in Cyrodiil with more than 12 members???????????????????????

    I cant think of a more chaotic launch ever, so many *** crashes when you want to do something together as a guild, the game is pointless without guilds and you ruined it completly. If I was boss of Zenimax I would fire every single one of you 7 years ago.

    Loading screens, loading screens, loading screens, loading screens, loading screens, loading screens and more loading screens, 1min, 2min, 3min, restart, 1min, 2min, 3min, restart, 1min, 2min, 3min, restart, loop.

    Duping, so many websites reporting various duping bugs, wich is your fault, it's your database that is *** up, fire the moron in charge of the database yesterday!

    Veteran rank content, WTF who came up with this crap?
    It *** sucks to do quests in 3 factions where a normal *** monster kan kill you easily, before you can start playing the end-game content...Wait, did I say end-game content...Oh I'm sorry that was my fault, there is no end-game content there just this veteran rank wich is there as a timesink so you can push out more content.

    Latency...huge...latency....in....Cyrodiil....massive....fights....,...use...skill...wait...wait for it....wait for it......wait for it.......wait for it.........PLOP, oh there it is.....use another skill......wait for it.....wait for it........wait for it............................dead.

    Chat with people in game.....Hello, how are you guys doing today?.....nothing happens......nothing......nothing......2min later....oh there's my question and a *** of other chat just went through from others, my messaged got drowned....

    So with all this, give me the patchnotes so I can see what you are going to do about this....
  • Sakiri
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    No they weren't fanboy lol. You played another wow then we know maybe? They were never ever been down for weeks lol haha

    Huh, Ive been playing WoW for over 10 years now. Closed beta tester. On Mal'Ganis and Archimonde. High pop pvp servers were unavailable for weeks because they wouldnt stay up long enough to do anything.

    My PvE server died almost immediately after transfers opened because it wouldnt stay up either.

    Not sure whivh magical version of WoW you played but the entire end of 2004 blew arse.
  • patrikblb16_ESO
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    And this is why they can't win. Yesterday there were numerous threads saying to take the game down and fix the loading screen problems.

    Did they take them down yesterday for that and tomorrow for the regular maintenance? no, they did the sensible thing and combined the much needed fix for the loading screens with the patch and maintenance due tomorrow, and now they get slammed for it.

    Rock ---- Zenimax ---- Hard place

    No. If they picked their times for the minimal impact on customers they would not be getting a hard time. Instead they schedule them for their own reasons. This is what irritates some people.

    Their way they have staff working the USA small hours. If they patched in the Euro small hours it would be late night US working. Neither is staff convenient but in the end staff/company convenience is not a factor. The only factor is delivering a good service to customers.

    Especially customers who could still say - 'screw this for a game of soldiers' and not sub.

    They *did* pick that time. Server goes down early morning US/while sane people are at work/school in Europe. Thats the majority of the population.

    The fact they oushed a much needed patch a day ahead has people bent out of shape... go spend the day with family or church folks or something. Pascha was today and I ate like a pig after Lent. You dont see me pitching a fit about not getting to play today or tomorrow because of maintenance.

    I understand you dont celebrate Easter in some religions, but for the Christian countries it is holiday today, just so you know.
    But that doesnt mean everyone of us goes to church, but maybe you should instead of making smartass comments in here.
    Edited by patrikblb16_ESO on 21 April 2014 08:04
  • theinsaneb16_ESO
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    No they weren't fanboy lol. You played another wow then we know maybe? They were never ever been down for weeks lol haha

    Huh, Ive been playing WoW for over 10 years now. Closed beta tester. On Mal'Ganis and Archimonde. High pop pvp servers were unavailable for weeks because they wouldnt stay up long enough to do anything.

    My PvE server died almost immediately after transfers opened because it wouldnt stay up either.

    Not sure whivh magical version of WoW you played but the entire end of 2004 blew arse.


    hahaha cant count closed beta, I played since open beta so that's 9 years straight I know what im talking about and never ever were there servers down for weeks.

    I am bit pissed cause I woke up on my free day and see I cant play a game where I paid 130 euro for.

    I now kinda settled down and know they will compensate somehow for ppl like us. Its not zenimax or Bethesda's fault that its my free day etc..so im not blaming anything on them. Its just harsh to not see any eta on the server back up or patch notes so far.

    Also they post on twitter and not here.


    AND to " Sakiri", if you weant to keep talking about blizzard then talk honest.

    Blizzard ALWAYS gives an ETA short and long term maintenances " ALWAYS". Sometimes they wont make it and make it an Extended maintenance.

    Compnies have this and companies have that, now lets all wait patiently until we finally know when we are able play our game again. Also do not forget that this MMO thing is brand new for them so we should give them some slack, and once again knowing them through all the years they will compensate to uf for this unlike Blizzard. Blizzard is all about the money they don't give a crap for their customers and Bethesda so far does
  • Sakiri
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    And this is why they can't win. Yesterday there were numerous threads saying to take the game down and fix the loading screen problems.

    Did they take them down yesterday for that and tomorrow for the regular maintenance? no, they did the sensible thing and combined the much needed fix for the loading screens with the patch and maintenance due tomorrow, and now they get slammed for it.

    Rock ---- Zenimax ---- Hard place

    No. If they picked their times for the minimal impact on customers they would not be getting a hard time. Instead they schedule them for their own reasons. This is what irritates some people.

    Their way they have staff working the USA small hours. If they patched in the Euro small hours it would be late night US working. Neither is staff convenient but in the end staff/company convenience is not a factor. The only factor is delivering a good service to customers.

    Especially customers who could still say - 'screw this for a game of soldiers' and not sub.

    They *did* pick that time. Server goes down early morning US/while sane people are at work/school in Europe. Thats the majority of the population.

    The fact they oushed a much needed patch a day ahead has people bent out of shape... go spend the day with family or church folks or something. Pascha was today and I ate like a pig after Lent. You dont see me pitching a fit about not getting to play today or tomorrow because of maintenance.

    I understand you dont celebrate Easter in some religions, but for the Christian countries it is holiday today, just so you know.
    But that doesnt mean everyone of us goes to church, but maybe you should instead of making smartass comments in here.

    If youd pay attention, its a holiday here in the states too. Not all employers observe it but it *is* a bank holiday meaning schools, government and banks dont run.

    In fact, if you read the gorram post you quoted, youd know I *do* go to church. Pascha is an Eastern Orthodox holiday. Youre the one making smartass comments.
  • Lorgren_Benirus
    No one is complaining about patches as such here, everyone is happy to see fixes. People are however talking about the timing issue and that is a valid point. If servers are meant to serve specific regions then the downtimes should be chosen accordingly, when it least affects that region (no matter where the server itself is located). Especially on a day like this which is a public holiday when most of the paying customers have day off and have planned to have some game sessions between their other activities. And nothing irritates most then to try to log in at a time like that only to see that the server has been taken down for maintenance, maintenance which could have been done much earlier. When least amount of people would have been affected.

    Fixes are always good. And yes, so far ESO has had quick fixes and shorter downtimes then many other MMO's. Everyone is happy to see the fixes. This is all good and well. What isn't "good and well" is the timing.
  • Sakiri
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    Compnies have this and companies have that, now lets all wait patiently until we finally know when we are able play our game again. Also do not forget that this MMO thing is brand new for them so we should give them some slack, and once again knowing them through all the years they will compensate to uf for this unlike Blizzard. Blizzard is all about the money they don't give a crap for their customers and Bethesda so far does[paste]

    I have many free days on my accounts from the launch issues with Blizzard. Id show you but Im on my phone and dont have the screenshots I had to take because idiots claim they dont compensate even on their own forums.
  • theinsaneb16_ESO
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    hahaha what ever, I don't need so called proof I know it for a fact I played it for 9 years as well. And my server hasn't been offline for weeks and only got 1 or 2 times free game time for 1 freaking day lol.

    Im going online cause the server is back up cya all laters!
  • Sakiri
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    Later. Maybe youll stop being an ignorant fool if youre in game.
  • AngryNord
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    cromdubh68 wrote: »
    Err, Easter was today... Hence, Easter Sunday in the story novels I've read that Jesus came out of a glowing cave on a Sunday, not a Monday...

    Nope......... never happened :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

    It was all just a bad acid trip :P
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