Trading Guild FTW!

I play the game casually, I really don't care... and I don't see any effect on me. I'll still be able to gather materials while deconstructing my stuff. No problem.

That Reddit post needs to be reposted here, and so here it is! This is ANOTHERS reddit post. http://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/23bxmi/banning_is_not_enough_the_far_reaching_impacts_of/

With the word about the exploit being out, it's time to address how it exploits should be addressed.

I personally am in favour of blanket permabans for those that duped over a low-threshold of items- say, 5-10 - with the availability for people that dupped under 20-25 able to appeal for a live-person review of their case to see if it was an accident etc. ("No, duping resin 20 times in a row is not an accident.")

However, what is to be done from all the people that have benefited from the exploit, even if they themselves didn't "dirty their hands"? There are people now running around in full legendary that didn't dupe a single item but knew about the glitch. They struck while the iron was hot, getting the mats they needed for insanely low prices. Now they're out in pvp and will likely be our Emperors in Cyrodiil for months and months to come. How will this be fixed?

Should Zeni remove all the gold/epic crafting mats from the game by changing the upgrade recipes and making the current gold items worthless vendor trash? I, even with measly stockpile of 8 Kuta runes and 1 temper, think so. If they leave the duplicated items in, my gold materials are worth pennies anyway.

As for the mats already used: Should Zeni revert all epic armor and weapons to blue? Consider how many people got full legendary legitimately vs how many haven't. It would suck to be "one of the few" that did it the legit way but this is a numbers game. What will hurt more, leaving exploiters and their beneficiaries unpunished or punishing a few innocents? What will cost them more subscriptions? Individuals that got their armor unjustly reverted can open tickets but we can't open tickets that will magically restore our faith in the game. Zenimax NEEDS to come down on the side of being TOO HARSH. That is the only way I will retain interest and feel that legitimate players have a chance to succeed in this game.
tl;dr:
-Make the items worthless vendor trash that sell for 0.
-Introduce new green/blue/purple/gold crafting materials.
-Convert all current legendary armor to blues with players able to appeal for CS review to see if they did it with legit mats or not. (if that is impossible, then too bad. -All golds should become become blues without exception.)
-Remove ill-gotten money.
-Don't let the exploiters and their beneficiaries win.

I *THINK* the plan is to continue to say they're working on it, and close threads like this. We'll see! \o/

I'm really surprised such a simple dupe exploit could exist and this just gives me more appreciation for devs (like those who built City of Heroes - RIP, 10 year anniversary in 10 days) who build/built very effective server side systems that calculate everything and simply push information to the client.

I'm playing very casually in TESO, but Zenimax really has to communicate clearly how this was handled if they want to regain trust. Something along the lines of "today we banned x accounts and eliminated x gold from the economy due to this exploit") and continue to do that in order to rebuild some credibility.

Converting legendary to blue is a Idiotic idea, all the epics obtained in dungeons and crafted legitimately turned into rares lower than their drop quality. Also the current legendaries aren't the problem it's the materials that are in rotation since all endgame weaponry and armour will be obsolete when Craglorn comes out soon.
Also people are spending all the gold they have to buy from these exploiters so if you were to remove all the materials they'd be essentially broke which they will find hard to replace since the people buying them have mostly done their quest lines to get their gold.

otomodachi wrote: »

I *THINK* the plan is to continue to say they're working on it, and close threads like this. We'll see! \o/

If they do its probably because this is like the 10th I've seen about this exact topic. In fact when i posted here 2 lines down was a larger thread about the same thing.

ya know, since the first day of game I watched exploiters and sighed. Within a couple of days alot of players were at end game, had bought all upgrades to inv and mounts and were paying outrageous sums for in game items on trade.

It bummed me out. Only in pvp does it affect me directly tho, tho in some dungeons your starting to see some elitist crap but that goes with all mmos. Im much happier now that i have zone chat turned off, except when i need to group and I dont pvp anymore except for entertainment sake.

cheaters and losers will always be present, but this game has been *** by the gold farmers and those that cater to them and now this *** exploit. all this does is wreck the game. the gold farmers annoy the legit players who leave, the gold buyers get all the goodies quick and then get bored and then leave cuz there are no updates for them to do, then bad mouth the game everywhere. pvpers get tired of the imbalance and leave. what you end up with is a game that cant make its quarterly cost expectations and is forced to go micro trans. want more bank space? cost ya 20 bucks. want that fast mount in green color? twenty bucks. want fast travel? twenty bucks. want the latest leet gear? twenty bucks in a random drop box chance only....

screw it

Moobs wrote: »

continue playing as normal? it hasn't ruined any of the economies of the 5 trading guilds I'm in. Overreacting ftw

Keep sleeping and thinking that everything is ok. When people one-shot you in Cyrodiil or kick you from the party because they are full in legendaries and you don't have enough, don't come back complaining.

PS: These people trade directly. They are not dumb enough to be flagged by 500 people in a trading guild.

pretty sure if you duped items and made a million credits they are going to ban your account.

Hrithmus wrote: »

If your in Full VR10 legendary gear already please stop playing. Look in the mirror and say out loud "What am i doing with my life"

Yea, I am sure that's what they will do

if zenimax is not going to take HARD measures against those dupers, im not going to continue playing ESO.

Bad fri night maintenance for oceanic ppl, long downtime, bank slots/items missing and now this dupe crap. Sorry im not going to put up with these nonsense as a customer.