%s%s zone: %s - excuse me what?

sirinsidiator · September 2019

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Maybe you could do some sort of "trusted author" program like you do with the combat representatives and let us sign NDAs?

Wouldn't that mean that you'd have to spread the word anyway ?

Not if you are the author affected by the change.

Aside from that there are many authors who use abandoned addons themselves and may look into how to fix them in case they would break or may prepare a fix for a maintained addon of an author who isn't in on the program and send them the proposed fix once the game update is live so they can update it faster.

anitajoneb17_ESO · September 2019

sirinsidiator wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Maybe you could do some sort of "trusted author" program like you do with the combat representatives and let us sign NDAs?

Wouldn't that mean that you'd have to spread the word anyway ?

Not if you are the author affected by the change.
Aside from that there are many authors who use abandoned addons themselves and may look into how to fix them in case they would break or may prepare a fix for a maintained addon of an author who isn't in on the program and send them the proposed fix once the game update is live so they can update it faster.

Do you really work in such close cooperation ?
That's great.
I use every opportunity to say this so I'll say it again now : you addon authors are just plain great ! Thank you all.

sirinsidiator · September 2019

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

Maybe you could do some sort of "trusted author" program like you do with the combat representatives and let us sign NDAs?

Wouldn't that mean that you'd have to spread the word anyway ?

Not if you are the author affected by the change.
Aside from that there are many authors who use abandoned addons themselves and may look into how to fix them in case they would break or may prepare a fix for a maintained addon of an author who isn't in on the program and send them the proposed fix once the game update is live so they can update it faster.

Do you really work in such closse cooperation ?
That's great.
I use every opportunity to say this so I'll say it again now : you addon authors are just plain great ! Thank you all.

We do. We actually already get to chat with ZOS directly. It's just about what they can and can't tell us.

mocap · September 2019

also if you are using RuESO or (probably) any other localization addons, switch to ENG.

SeaGtGruff · September 2019

It's times like this that I'm glad I play plain vanilla.

Darkmage1337 · September 2019

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

It's times like this that I'm glad I play plain vanilla.

Don't be.

code65536 · September 2019

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

due to the exploitative nature

This is the correct course of action for exploits that are undisclosed and privately reported to ZOS.

But this was not the case here. That certain characters could cause problems has been around for a while and was already widely exploited for griefing purposes.

Plus, the problem is unrelated to addons (no addons required to exploit or be the victim of the exploit) and in the case of this specific problem, it is possible to disclose this change without

Revealing the details of the bug.
Revealing how a player could exploit the bug for griefing purposes.
Suggesting that an exploitative bug even exists.

In short, the "cat was already out of the bag", so to speak, and the nature of the problem was such that if the change had been signaled ahead of time, it seems unlikely to have exacerbated the problem.

SirAndy · September 2019

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

While we normally try to save these for larger updates, this particular issue was serious enough that it needed to go into an incremental patch and due to the exploitative nature, we weren't able to give addon authors a heads up.

Judas Helviaryn · September 2019

Gonna go ahead and add that ChatIt by Circonian is another addon affected by this.

The_Old_Goat · September 2019

Shissu's chat was my culprit, disabled that portion of the addon suite and chat works fine for me now.

Grimm13 · September 2019

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

This is caused by a change to the chat system in today's update. They changed how the chat text is formatted. Before it would use character sequences like "<<1>>" to mark placeholders for content to be added during the formatting step. After today's update it now uses "%s" instead, but addons don't know that yet, so you'll have to disable them and wait for an update.

It would be really nice if changes like this that happen in an incremental instead of a major patch gets documented in the patch notes, @ZOS_GinaBruno. We kinda expect addon-breaking changes in major quarterlies, but not in incrementals, so call-outs of changes that affect incrementals are necessary.

While we normally try to save these for larger updates, this particular issue was serious enough that it needed to go into an incremental patch and due to the exploitative nature, we weren't able to give addon authors a heads up.

So you key logged the griefers using this and we can soon expect rounds of bans forth coming.

Elsonso · September 2019

Grimm13 wrote: »

So you key logged the griefers using this and we can soon expect rounds of bans forth coming.

I think that already happened, actually.

WeerW3ir · September 2019

I did nothing.. im just used

Grimm13 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

This is caused by a change to the chat system in today's update. They changed how the chat text is formatted. Before it would use character sequences like "<<1>>" to mark placeholders for content to be added during the formatting step. After today's update it now uses "%s" instead, but addons don't know that yet, so you'll have to disable them and wait for an update.

It would be really nice if changes like this that happen in an incremental instead of a major patch gets documented in the patch notes, @ZOS_GinaBruno. We kinda expect addon-breaking changes in major quarterlies, but not in incrementals, so call-outs of changes that affect incrementals are necessary.

While we normally try to save these for larger updates, this particular issue was serious enough that it needed to go into an incremental patch and due to the exploitative nature, we weren't able to give addon authors a heads up.

So you key logged the griefers using this and we can soon expect rounds of bans forth coming.

i did nothing. im just used an addon which added time stamps to the chat like in any other chat app or game or ... o.O

Jeremy · September 2019

WeerW3ir wrote: »

What is wrong with the game. i cannot talk at all.

It seems turning off all your chat-related addons fixes the problem. Least that's what they were saying in zone chat today.

I don't use addons so I wouldn't know. But since chat is working the same for me as it always has, they are probably right.

WeerW3ir · September 2019

Jeremy wrote: »

WeerW3ir wrote: »

What is wrong with the game. i cannot talk at all.

It seems turning off all your chat-related addons fixes the problem. Least that's what they were saying in zone chat today.

I don't use addons so I wouldn't know. But since chat is working the same for me as it always has, they are probably right.

Yeah. i fixed since that. it was an addon called ChatStamp. nothing more was than time stamp addon >_<. helped me to know the time ingame and see when i or else got or earned or did anything

UrQuan · September 2019

Grimm13 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

This is caused by a change to the chat system in today's update. They changed how the chat text is formatted. Before it would use character sequences like "<<1>>" to mark placeholders for content to be added during the formatting step. After today's update it now uses "%s" instead, but addons don't know that yet, so you'll have to disable them and wait for an update.

It would be really nice if changes like this that happen in an incremental instead of a major patch gets documented in the patch notes, @ZOS_GinaBruno. We kinda expect addon-breaking changes in major quarterlies, but not in incrementals, so call-outs of changes that affect incrementals are necessary.

While we normally try to save these for larger updates, this particular issue was serious enough that it needed to go into an incremental patch and due to the exploitative nature, we weren't able to give addon authors a heads up.

So you key logged the griefers using this and we can soon expect rounds of bans forth coming.

They already banned a bunch of people for it. There was a thread a few days ago with someone complaining that all of these "innocent" PVPers got unfairly banned for force-lagging out other players.

WeerW3ir wrote: »

I did nothing.. im just used

Grimm13 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

sirinsidiator wrote: »

This is caused by a change to the chat system in today's update. They changed how the chat text is formatted. Before it would use character sequences like "<<1>>" to mark placeholders for content to be added during the formatting step. After today's update it now uses "%s" instead, but addons don't know that yet, so you'll have to disable them and wait for an update.

It would be really nice if changes like this that happen in an incremental instead of a major patch gets documented in the patch notes, @ZOS_GinaBruno. We kinda expect addon-breaking changes in major quarterlies, but not in incrementals, so call-outs of changes that affect incrementals are necessary.

While we normally try to save these for larger updates, this particular issue was serious enough that it needed to go into an incremental patch and due to the exploitative nature, we weren't able to give addon authors a heads up.

So you key logged the griefers using this and we can soon expect rounds of bans forth coming.

i did nothing. im just used an addon which added time stamps to the chat like in any other chat app or game or ... o.O

You won't get banned for that. The people who got banned were the ones who knew about this issue and were exploiting it to lag out other players.

Cinbri · September 2019

Given that counting as exploit does those who abused it got ordinary 3 days ban or permabanned?

AcadianPaladin · September 2019

Very helpful thread! I had same problem. Uninstalled ChatStamp. Fixed.

UrQuan · September 2019

Cinbri wrote: »

Given that counting as exploit does those who abused it got ordinary 3 days ban or permabanned?

I've heard through the grapevine that they got permabanned, but I don't actually know anyone who got banned so take that with a massive grain of salt because it's 3rd hand info and should not be trusted to be accurate.