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Prices for the Crown Store Sky Shards are out
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Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm guessing this is per character as it would be really cheap if buying a zone would unlock it for all your toons
Yes, I would expect this to be per-character.XBox EU/NA:@ElsonsoJannus
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Lord_Wrath✭✭✭✭✭LOL1300+ CP | Lørd Wrath | - Sorcerer - Palatine - Grand Master Crafter - 30000 Achievement Points
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »ZOS/Beth the new EA in town?...funny thing for me is, the more ways they find to gouge their supportive players the tighter my wallet becomes.
My expectations for Character/account skyshard unlocks was to promote alt play, & in-turn player invests more into the game overtime with new class driven xpacs, alts, sub, etc...if alt play means no-lifer do the same content X amount of times or spend $100 to play catch-up, well pass, continue play my main & not waste money on xpacs like the necro.
Yes, you already know these pack costs will sit either side of a Crowns pack size as well right? Just like EA.
E.G. A SS pack could cost 1250 crowns because you can only buy 750 or 1500 crowns, forcing you into buying the 1500, or higher - It's a scummy tactic they all use these days.
Your expectations were the same as nearly every advocate's but we'll see.
So, they're 800 and you can buy 750 crowns. I'm not surprised one bit.
That's one of the dirtiest tactics all these companies are using atm.
Not even close.
What do you mean "not even close"?
Not even close.
Okay, there is a psychological effect about how people think about money. When you start adding in micro-transaction currencies, it gets legitimately hard for people to process that as real money, especially once they've spent it. So, yeah, there's issues here.
Selling something for more than the smallest pack is less of a problem than that. Especially since the dollar per crown value on the 750 pack is pretty bad. You'd be much better off subbing for a month of ESO+, which may be the point.
But, as for the, "dirtiest tactics?" Not even close. We have post-launch review embargos. We've got non-cosmetic loot boxes on $60 boxed releases. Loot boxes that feed into PvP systems. We've got actual P2W titles out there. Microtransactions where you're paying to rent the item in question. Pay to bypass timers. Interfaces that are deliberately obtuse to try to pressure you into spending money out of frustration. Intentionally making multiple editions with their bonuses as obtuse as possible in an effort to maintain a degree of confusion and hoping the buyer will overspend. We have Early Access being used as a shield against criticism, allowing less scrupulous publishers to push incomplete titles out the door, in some cases without ever even intending to complete it. We have **** like Star Citizen. I mean, really, we have **** like Star Citizen.
In the grand scheme of things, microtransaction pricing and it's relation to pack sizes is a pretty minor offense. Yes, it is somewhat manipulative. Because you're not handing over physical cash, you're already at a disadvantage for mentally processing that, yes, you are spending real money. But you're paying to convert that into fake money, that you then buy stuff with, and at that point it is much harder to sort through and go, "wait a second, I'm spending how much?" However, when examining the industry as a whole, this is a pretty minor issue.
So, no, this is not even close to the dirtiest tactics used by publishers. Not even sure it raises to the level of dirty.2 -
Easily_Lost✭✭✭✭✭Some people will never be happy, no matter what ZOS does.
So many wanted to be able to buy Skyshards so they don't have to hunt them down on their alts. They add them to the Crown Store, and their saying the price is to high.
But not you have a choice, buy them from the Crown Store or ( wait for it ) go hunt them down.PC - NA - AD
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭IzzyStardust wrote: »
Oh now, you are asking a lot from the "players".
After all, I've played Archeage and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
but I played SWTOR and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
but I played CHampions and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
but I played BDO and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
so obviously in this game, just like the others, I should be able to do things just once and have everything completed show up on all new characters
8)
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
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?
The alliance skyshard achievements in Cyrodiil each have 15 skyshards, but there is a single skyshard with its own achievement called the Mountain Skyshard:
http://dulfy.net/2014/04/02/eso-cyrodiil-mountain-skyshard-guide/
I don’t believe it’s included with any of the three Cyro shard packs, so we’ll still have to get that one, er, manually (or if you don’t want to walk on your hands, by foot or horse, I suppose).
So you are saying Gankers have a new place to camp?
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Joy_Division✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Darkstorne wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »Are these account-wide unlocks or per character?
If they're account-wide I genuinely might consider the Cyrodiil unlocks. Hard pass if they're per character.
Per character.
Yikes, the greed.
I feel sorry for anyone suckered into buying these things, but thank you for funding next year's Chapter I guess.
If you thought that was bad. Look at what they are doing to any race any alliance. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/item/7919?any-race-any-alliance-bundle
OMG. 11,700 Crowns? So you need to buy the 14k Crown pack if you're a new player who want this. That's £74.99! Just so a new player can be an Altmer in the DC for example?
What is happening to this game!? And why are so many people reacting to these Skyshard prices with "Yeah, this seems fair"? Guys, this is PER CHARACTER. They're asking for over 20k Crowns, which is over £120 per character. And the majority of you are happy with this decision!?
No. That's $0 per character. If you want to be lazy and not spend the hour of so gathering the skyshards you actually need, that;s on you.Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.2 -
Edaphon✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »
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The alliance skyshard achievements in Cyrodiil each have 15 skyshards, but there is a single skyshard with its own achievement called the Mountain Skyshard:
http://dulfy.net/2014/04/02/eso-cyrodiil-mountain-skyshard-guide/
I don’t believe it’s included with any of the three Cyro shard packs, so we’ll still have to get that one, er, manually (or if you don’t want to walk on your hands, by foot or horse, I suppose).
So you are saying Gankers have a new place to camp?
Gankers waiting at skyshard locations to prey on helpless little PvEers is a thing that only ever happens on the forums.
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Mariusghost84✭✭✭✭✭Joy_Division wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »Are these account-wide unlocks or per character?
If they're account-wide I genuinely might consider the Cyrodiil unlocks. Hard pass if they're per character.
Per character.
Yikes, the greed.
I feel sorry for anyone suckered into buying these things, but thank you for funding next year's Chapter I guess.
If you thought that was bad. Look at what they are doing to any race any alliance. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/item/7919?any-race-any-alliance-bundle
OMG. 11,700 Crowns? So you need to buy the 14k Crown pack if you're a new player who want this. That's £74.99! Just so a new player can be an Altmer in the DC for example?
What is happening to this game!? And why are so many people reacting to these Skyshard prices with "Yeah, this seems fair"? Guys, this is PER CHARACTER. They're asking for over 20k Crowns, which is over £120 per character. And the majority of you are happy with this decision!?
No. That's $0 per character. If you want to be lazy and not spend the hour of so gathering the skyshards you actually need, that;s on you.
An hour? It took me months to get all the shards lol!5 -
CleymenZero✭✭✭✭✭
✭We need your opinion on the matter, @CleymenZero
Can't remember your attitude and perspective on the matter.
Not remembering you, I think it's a safer to say that you probably have enough opinions for all of us on the forum.Edited by CleymenZero on 20 May 2019 12:170 -
AlnilamE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, colour me surprised. 50 crowns per shard is about half of what I expected. I guess they do want to sell lots of them.
For ESO+ subscribers, that's about 2 normal zones per monthly crown allotment.
Still not buying them, but you guys obviously got what you wanted.Mariusghost84 wrote: »Joy_Division wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »Are these account-wide unlocks or per character?
If they're account-wide I genuinely might consider the Cyrodiil unlocks. Hard pass if they're per character.
Per character.
Yikes, the greed.
I feel sorry for anyone suckered into buying these things, but thank you for funding next year's Chapter I guess.
If you thought that was bad. Look at what they are doing to any race any alliance. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/item/7919?any-race-any-alliance-bundle
OMG. 11,700 Crowns? So you need to buy the 14k Crown pack if you're a new player who want this. That's £74.99! Just so a new player can be an Altmer in the DC for example?
What is happening to this game!? And why are so many people reacting to these Skyshard prices with "Yeah, this seems fair"? Guys, this is PER CHARACTER. They're asking for over 20k Crowns, which is over £120 per character. And the majority of you are happy with this decision!?
No. That's $0 per character. If you want to be lazy and not spend the hour of so gathering the skyshards you actually need, that;s on you.
An hour? It took me months to get all the shards lol!
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BNOC✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »ZOS/Beth the new EA in town?...funny thing for me is, the more ways they find to gouge their supportive players the tighter my wallet becomes.
My expectations for Character/account skyshard unlocks was to promote alt play, & in-turn player invests more into the game overtime with new class driven xpacs, alts, sub, etc...if alt play means no-lifer do the same content X amount of times or spend $100 to play catch-up, well pass, continue play my main & not waste money on xpacs like the necro.
Yes, you already know these pack costs will sit either side of a Crowns pack size as well right? Just like EA.
E.G. A SS pack could cost 1250 crowns because you can only buy 750 or 1500 crowns, forcing you into buying the 1500, or higher - It's a scummy tactic they all use these days.
Your expectations were the same as nearly every advocate's but we'll see.
So, they're 800 and you can buy 750 crowns. I'm not surprised one bit.
That's one of the dirtiest tactics all these companies are using atm.
Not even close.
What do you mean "not even close"?
Not even close.
Okay, there is a psychological effect about how people think about money. When you start adding in micro-transaction currencies, it gets legitimately hard for people to process that as real money, especially once they've spent it. So, yeah, there's issues here.
Selling something for more than the smallest pack is less of a problem than that. Especially since the dollar per crown value on the 750 pack is pretty bad. You'd be much better off subbing for a month of ESO+, which may be the point.
But, as for the, "dirtiest tactics?" Not even close. We have post-launch review embargos. We've got non-cosmetic loot boxes on $60 boxed releases. Loot boxes that feed into PvP systems. We've got actual P2W titles out there. Microtransactions where you're paying to rent the item in question. Pay to bypass timers. Interfaces that are deliberately obtuse to try to pressure you into spending money out of frustration. Intentionally making multiple editions with their bonuses as obtuse as possible in an effort to maintain a degree of confusion and hoping the buyer will overspend. We have Early Access being used as a shield against criticism, allowing less scrupulous publishers to push incomplete titles out the door, in some cases without ever even intending to complete it. We have **** like Star Citizen. I mean, really, we have **** like Star Citizen.
In the grand scheme of things, microtransaction pricing and it's relation to pack sizes is a pretty minor offense. Yes, it is somewhat manipulative. Because you're not handing over physical cash, you're already at a disadvantage for mentally processing that, yes, you are spending real money. But you're paying to convert that into fake money, that you then buy stuff with, and at that point it is much harder to sort through and go, "wait a second, I'm spending how much?" However, when examining the industry as a whole, this is a pretty minor issue.
So, no, this is not even close to the dirtiest tactics used by publishers. Not even sure it raises to the level of dirty.
Whilst you're not wrong that publishers/developers pull much worse stunts than this (I played Anthem), I never said it 'was' the dirtiest tactic, I said 'one of', which I stand by - Though, I have no doubt that from a business point of view it's a highly effective and knowingly manipulative strategy.
As you've stated, the fact that we have to buy pretend money instead of directly paying for the product is bad enough because of the psychology involved but the clever manipulation of item pricing on top of that is unnecessary nonetheless.
I assume it is as you said "minor offence" and "minor issue" as opposed to not, but if manipulation of any kind isn't at dirty level in your eyes then that's alright, it is however my opinion that anything involving player manipulation as pertains to net profits, is a dirty tactic.
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starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »IzzyStardust wrote: »
Oh now, you are asking a lot from the "players".
After all, I've played Archeage and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
but I played SWTOR and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
but I played CHampions and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
but I played BDO and ... well, had to do everything each time for each character
so obviously in this game, just like the others, I should be able to do things just once and have everything completed show up on all new characters
8)
Though, legitimatly, Champion's Heirloom items were dope. Not having to think about gear while leveling an alt was all kinds of convenient.0 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS/Beth the new EA in town?...funny thing for me is, the more ways they find to gouge their supportive players the tighter my wallet becomes.
My expectations for Character/account skyshard unlocks was to promote alt play, & in-turn player invests more into the game overtime with new class driven xpacs, alts, sub, etc...if alt play means no-lifer do the same content X amount of times or spend $100 to play catch-up, well pass, continue play my main & not waste money on xpacs like the necro.
Yes, you already know these pack costs will sit either side of a Crowns pack size as well right? Just like EA.
E.G. A SS pack could cost 1250 crowns because you can only buy 750 or 1500 crowns, forcing you into buying the 1500, or higher - It's a scummy tactic they all use these days.
Your expectations were the same as nearly every advocate's but we'll see.
So, they're 800 and you can buy 750 crowns. I'm not surprised one bit.
That's one of the dirtiest tactics all these companies are using atm.
They're 800 and sub gives you 1650. Dirty AF! No... Wait...0 -
BlazingDynamo✭✭✭✭✭So $220 per character to unlock skyshards? Lol yeah okay I'll get right on that.
Sad part is half you [snip] actually will. Then you'll return to the forums to whine about how performace in this game sucks and Zos don't care. Keep feeding the troll under the bridge fellas.
[Edit for bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on 20 May 2019 20:511 -
xeNNNNN✭✭✭✭✭
✭For people who can only play an hour a week or something nuts like that then I guess this is good.
For everyone else? People are going to become lazy and impulsive and waste their hard earned money on something you can get for free. Makes. No. Sense.
ZOS CAPITALISING ON IMPULSIVE PURCHASES INTENSIFIESAh, e-communities - the "pinnacle" of the internet............yeah, right.2 -
Camatoo✭im suprised the price for cyrodill shards is not the highest since its one of the most difficult areas to collect them.
Still not even considering buying them.
I rather farm them together to the point i dont need them any longer for a stable build.
120€ for skillpoints is just way to high for every character you create.
Thats nearly the price for 2 fullprice games (not considering EA or Ubisoft here)
I have no problem supporting ESO through ESO+, but at some point you should think for yourself "is a game really worth spending hundres of €/$ for it! just because im lazy?"0 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭ZOS/Beth the new EA in town?...funny thing for me is, the more ways they find to gouge their supportive players the tighter my wallet becomes.
My expectations for Character/account skyshard unlocks was to promote alt play, & in-turn player invests more into the game overtime with new class driven xpacs, alts, sub, etc...if alt play means no-lifer do the same content X amount of times or spend $100 to play catch-up, well pass, continue play my main & not waste money on xpacs like the necro.
Yes, you already know these pack costs will sit either side of a Crowns pack size as well right? Just like EA.
E.G. A SS pack could cost 1250 crowns because you can only buy 750 or 1500 crowns, forcing you into buying the 1500, or higher - It's a scummy tactic they all use these days.
Your expectations were the same as nearly every advocate's but we'll see.
So, they're 800 and you can buy 750 crowns. I'm not surprised one bit.
That's one of the dirtiest tactics all these companies are using atm.
They're 800 and sub gives you 1650. Dirty AF! No... Wait...
These aren't eso+ exclusive so not sure why that's relative but you enjoy your 10 skill points a month.
It's not hard to see why so many companies are so easily able to pull off this kind of manipulation; people like you just don't get it.
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EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭Being lazy is never inexpensive. ESO just provides that experience for a few who want to walk down that path themselves. It's not manipulation. It's offering an easy route to getting items at a cost. Gosh, imagine that from an MMO. lol.2 -
Camatoo✭Being lazy is never inexpensive. ESO just provides that experience for a few who want to walk down that path themselves. It's not manipulation. It's offering an easy route to getting items at a cost. Gosh, imagine that from an MMO. lol.
Yes, buying items to make your life easier in a game has ever been a thing since MMOs where intruduced to the market.
But i would say 120€ for EACH character is a bit much.
I mean you get nothing beside it. Only skyshards who only every third gives you a skillpoint.
Sure, you dont need all the zones for a perfectly viable build, but to be honest, if you start to collect them, you never just stop. You always go the extra mile "oh i could need those in Vvardenfell also" as example.
And even if you dont buy the whole box and just some zones who are harder to collect then others, thats exactly what micropayment is for.
"oh just 5€ here, another 10€ here for another set of skillpoints" those ramp up pretty fast.
If i look to other games you get alot more for that amnount of money.
As example Path of Exile.
For that amount you get alot of cosmetics or stuff that can improve the life of the everlasting daily grind for the best item.
And ESO also just gives you that for real money. Cosmetic or changes to your character (Racechange, pots) which have no real influence on the way your character progresses through the game.
Selling skyshards seems to be just a lazy cashcrab move for people who dont have time/motivation to collect them
Which is somewhat understandable if you are on your 8th character.Edited by Camatoo on 20 May 2019 14:470 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ZOS/Beth the new EA in town?...funny thing for me is, the more ways they find to gouge their supportive players the tighter my wallet becomes.
My expectations for Character/account skyshard unlocks was to promote alt play, & in-turn player invests more into the game overtime with new class driven xpacs, alts, sub, etc...if alt play means no-lifer do the same content X amount of times or spend $100 to play catch-up, well pass, continue play my main & not waste money on xpacs like the necro.
Yes, you already know these pack costs will sit either side of a Crowns pack size as well right? Just like EA.
E.G. A SS pack could cost 1250 crowns because you can only buy 750 or 1500 crowns, forcing you into buying the 1500, or higher - It's a scummy tactic they all use these days.
Your expectations were the same as nearly every advocate's but we'll see.
So, they're 800 and you can buy 750 crowns. I'm not surprised one bit.
That's one of the dirtiest tactics all these companies are using atm.
They're 800 and sub gives you 1650. Dirty AF! No... Wait...
These aren't eso+ exclusive so not sure why that's relative but you enjoy your 10 skill points a month.
It's not hard to see why so many companies are so easily able to pull off this kind of manipulation; people like you just don't get it.
You act as if you can't go out and get them. Or if you need to buy them all for all toons. Go [snip] somewhere else, [snip]. Bye.
[Edit for bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on 20 May 2019 20:501 -
BNOC✭✭✭✭✭ZOS/Beth the new EA in town?...funny thing for me is, the more ways they find to gouge their supportive players the tighter my wallet becomes.
My expectations for Character/account skyshard unlocks was to promote alt play, & in-turn player invests more into the game overtime with new class driven xpacs, alts, sub, etc...if alt play means no-lifer do the same content X amount of times or spend $100 to play catch-up, well pass, continue play my main & not waste money on xpacs like the necro.
Yes, you already know these pack costs will sit either side of a Crowns pack size as well right? Just like EA.
E.G. A SS pack could cost 1250 crowns because you can only buy 750 or 1500 crowns, forcing you into buying the 1500, or higher - It's a scummy tactic they all use these days.
Your expectations were the same as nearly every advocate's but we'll see.
So, they're 800 and you can buy 750 crowns. I'm not surprised one bit.
That's one of the dirtiest tactics all these companies are using atm.
They're 800 and sub gives you 1650. Dirty AF! No... Wait...
These aren't eso+ exclusive so not sure why that's relative but you enjoy your 10 skill points a month.
It's not hard to see why so many companies are so easily able to pull off this kind of manipulation; people like you just don't get it.
You act as if you can't go out and get them. Or if you need to buy them all for all toons. Go [snip] somewhere else, [snip]. Bye.
[Edit for bait.]
Umm, when did I say you or I couldn't go and get them? I've got them all on my main, literally every single one.
I'm talking about pricing manipulation of crowns and the crown store purchasable items.
Catch you later puppet, don't dance too hard or you might break a string and start thinking for yourself.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on 20 May 2019 20:50vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
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ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BlazingDynamo wrote: »So $220 per character to unlock skyshards? Lol yeah okay I'll get right on that.
Sad part is half you [snip] actually will. Then you'll return to the forums to whine about how performace in this game sucks and Zos don't care. Keep feeding the troll under the bridge fellas.
[Edit for bait.]
Only if you want them all... Do you? Does anyone? And if you do, you can always go hunt them down. [snip] There are worse problems to get upset about.
[snip]
[Edit for bait.]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on 20 May 2019 20:520 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Darkstorne wrote: »Are these account-wide unlocks or per character?
If they're account-wide I genuinely might consider the Cyrodiil unlocks. Hard pass if they're per character.
Per character.
Yikes, the greed.
I feel sorry for anyone suckered into buying these things, but thank you for funding next year's Chapter I guess.
If you thought that was bad. Look at what they are doing to any race any alliance. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/item/7919?any-race-any-alliance-bundle
Yeah, its really horrible. They bundled the alliance horse, dog, alliance outfit, Race & Name Change Token, 3 Experience Scrolls, and a collection of Treasure Maps all in one place. For 2000 crowns. How dare they do that! The utter gall of making a bundle instead of selling the alliance horse separately, the alliance costume separately, the alliance hat separately, the alliance dog separately, as well as the race/name change token separately, and the experience scrolls separately.....
When the Alliance warhorse came out, it was 2500 crowns. The alliance rider outfit was 1000 crowns. Alliance rider hood was 1000 crowns. Alliance wardog pet was 1000 crowns. Obviously the whole thing was totally a nefarious plot.....
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/6067466/#Comment_6067466Hey all, just to clear up some confusion here. The price you see on the Any Race, Any Alliance bundle is its permanent price. It's meant to display the total value of the bundle, rather than a sale (which is why there's no timer.)
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✭The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.
I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”0 -
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✭✭Vercingetorix wrote: »The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.
I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.
All shards are the exact same price.0 -
JKorr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Vercingetorix wrote: »The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.
I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.
All shards are the exact same price.
No, they aren't. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/7#skyshards
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