Prices for the Crown Store Sky Shards are out

Kiralyn2000

Commancho wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

gresiac wrote: »

Prices are ok.

Yes, far lower than I expected.

Indeed, it's so cheap that I think they should at least double price.
6 classes x 22,225 = 133,500 crowns = 875$

As others have mentioned, they're easy to get in-game.

Also - why do you need all of them, on all your characters? (Seriously, how many people actually NEED 300+ skillpoints on every character?)

If it's some personal OCD "must 100% every character" thing, well.... that's your neurosis. Perhaps work on dealing with that, instead of ranting about how a game is "forcing us to do X"/"ripping us off"/etc (words I've seen in various threads)

ZonasArch

JKorr wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.

I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.

All shards are the exact same price.

No, they aren't. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/7#skyshards

They cost 50 a pop. There's not a single pack that's more worth it than another because they all carry the same bang for buck.

There. Need me to draw it for you? They are all the same price, and the other dude said some packs are more worth it than others. They aren't. It'll be totally up only to the amount of points you need, and the cost per point won't change from 50 a pop.

All packs are worth getting depending on your needs and wallet size, and that's it. They claim those packs are worth it because you get 58 shards for 2900 crowns, and you can get the same 58 shards with any other packs that total up to 2900 when added. So they are all the same price.

Wildberryjack

I'll just go gather them myself still. I'd rather spend what few crowns I have on other things that I can't get otherwise

Tsar_Gekkou

The worst part is that they aren't giftable. I don't want to spend real money on these and would rather sell skin runs to buy them from others with gold. They make it non-giftable so that people are forced to spend money if they want them because zos loves to suck a buck from people in any way possible.

JKorr

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

The worst part is that they aren't giftable. I don't want to spend real money on these and would rather sell skin runs to buy them from others with gold. They make it non-giftable so that people are forced to spend money if they want them because zos loves to suck a buck from people in any way possible.

Being able to buy the skyshards depends on the player finding them on a character *first*. How, or why, would I want to gift someone else with *my* character's achievement? There is no way for the "gifter" to ensure the "giftee" actually did the work on one of their characters.

Camatoo

ZonasArch wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.

I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.

All shards are the exact same price.

No, they aren't. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/7#skyshards

They cost 50 a pop. There's not a single pack that's more worth it than another because they all carry the same bang for buck.

There. Need me to draw it for you? They are all the same price, and the other dude said some packs are more worth it than others. They aren't. It'll be totally up only to the amount of points you need, and the cost per point won't change from 50 a pop.

All packs are worth getting depending on your needs and wallet size, and that's it. They claim those packs are worth it because you get 58 shards for 2900 crowns, and you can get the same 58 shards with any other packs that total up to 2900 when added. So they are all the same price.

Im not sure i get you there.

Seriously, i read 2 times through your post, but still dont get it. Maybe because im not a native speaker.
But do you really say all packs are worth the same money? Last time i counted cyrodill had more skyshards than craglorn.

So it makes a difference if i buy the cyrodill pack for 800 crowns and get 45 skyshards, or i buy the craglorn set for 900 crowns and get 12 skyshards.
Alteast that counts for me. And to be honest, cyrodill is the only pack worth buying, since its a pvp area, one of the biggest zones right now and also hard to aquire if you dont swap factions.
The rest seems just as a cashgrab.

FireBreathingNord

$150+ per toon?

I'd buy if account-wide.

Tsar_Gekkou

JKorr wrote: »

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

The worst part is that they aren't giftable. I don't want to spend real money on these and would rather sell skin runs to buy them from others with gold. They make it non-giftable so that people are forced to spend money if they want them because zos loves to suck a buck from people in any way possible.

Being able to buy the skyshards depends on the player finding them on a character *first*. How, or why, would I want to gift someone else with *my* character's achievement? There is no way for the "gifter" to ensure the "giftee" actually did the work on one of their characters.

Gee, maybe if the gifting system didn't force you to keep whatever you buy for someone if they can't accept it and you were able to refund something you couldn't gift someone, it wouldn't be a problem. blame zos for that one.

JackDaniell

Pay 2 win, this is't a mobile game right?

ZonasArch

Camatoo wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.

I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.

All shards are the exact same price.

No, they aren't. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/7#skyshards

They cost 50 a pop. There's not a single pack that's more worth it than another because they all carry the same bang for buck.

There. Need me to draw it for you? They are all the same price, and the other dude said some packs are more worth it than others. They aren't. It'll be totally up only to the amount of points you need, and the cost per point won't change from 50 a pop.

All packs are worth getting depending on your needs and wallet size, and that's it. They claim those packs are worth it because you get 58 shards for 2900 crowns, and you can get the same 58 shards with any other packs that total up to 2900 when added. So they are all the same price.

Im not sure i get you there.

Seriously, i read 2 times through your post, but still dont get it. Maybe because im not a native speaker.
But do you really say all packs are worth the same money? Last time i counted cyrodill had more skyshards than craglorn.

So it makes a difference if i buy the cyrodill pack for 800 crowns and get 45 skyshards, or i buy the craglorn set for 900 crowns and get 12 skyshards.
Alteast that counts for me. And to be honest, cyrodill is the only pack worth buying, since its a pvp area, one of the biggest zones right now and also hard to aquire if you dont swap factions.
The rest seems just as a cashgrab.

I meant bang for buck, money spent per shard you get.

JKorr

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

The worst part is that they aren't giftable. I don't want to spend real money on these and would rather sell skin runs to buy them from others with gold. They make it non-giftable so that people are forced to spend money if they want them because zos loves to suck a buck from people in any way possible.

Being able to buy the skyshards depends on the player finding them on a character *first*. How, or why, would I want to gift someone else with *my* character's achievement? There is no way for the "gifter" to ensure the "giftee" actually did the work on one of their characters.

Gee, maybe if the gifting system didn't force you to keep whatever you buy for someone if they can't accept it and you were able to refund something you couldn't gift someone, it wouldn't be a problem. blame zos for that one.

Not sure I get your point. I found all the shards in a zone on my character. Someone else hasn't done it and wants to get the shards without actually clearing the zone, so they want a gift of the work my character did. Why would I want to do that? Has nothing to do with keeping or refunding or anything else. What gifting skyshards to someone who hasn't done the finding themselves sound a lot like starting down mud-covered hill to crown store items that aren't convenience or cosmetic. Get a new mount, no advantage besides looking fabulous. Getting skill points for crowns/money with no effort on your character....not the same.

Insandros

Commancho wrote: »

zaria wrote: »

gresiac wrote: »

Prices are ok.

Yes, far lower than I expected.

Indeed, it's so cheap that I think they should at least double price.
6 classes x 22,225 = 133,500 crowns = 875$

6 classes, by collecting them at 0 crowns = $ 0 and leveled your toon while doing it.

Tsar_Gekkou

JKorr wrote: »

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

The worst part is that they aren't giftable. I don't want to spend real money on these and would rather sell skin runs to buy them from others with gold. They make it non-giftable so that people are forced to spend money if they want them because zos loves to suck a buck from people in any way possible.

Being able to buy the skyshards depends on the player finding them on a character *first*. How, or why, would I want to gift someone else with *my* character's achievement? There is no way for the "gifter" to ensure the "giftee" actually did the work on one of their characters.

Gee, maybe if the gifting system didn't force you to keep whatever you buy for someone if they can't accept it and you were able to refund something you couldn't gift someone, it wouldn't be a problem. blame zos for that one.

Not sure I get your point. I found all the shards in a zone on my character. Someone else hasn't done it and wants to get the shards without actually clearing the zone, so they want a gift of the work my character did. Why would I want to do that? Has nothing to do with keeping or refunding or anything else. What gifting skyshards to someone who hasn't done the finding themselves sound a lot like starting down mud-covered hill to crown store items that aren't convenience or cosmetic. Get a new mount, no advantage besides looking fabulous. Getting skill points for crowns/money with no effort on your character....not the same.

The point is, they have to have gotten the achievement in the first place. "Someone else hasn't done it and wants to get the shards without actually clearing the zone, so they want a gift of the work my character did. Why would I want to do that?" As we already know, you have to have gotten the skyshard achievement for a zone before you're able to buy it. It's no different than someone trying to buy a crown item that they already have: They can't accept it. The only people buying these are gonna be people who have done it already and have the necessary achievements.

virtus753

barney2525 wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Maotti wrote: »

Actually that's not bad, not one is over 1000 crowns at least.

I was expecting at least 1500 crowns regardless of zone.

Cydrolli is technically 2250 for all of them.

Though the poor Mountain Skyshard is not in any pack, iirc.

Must be lonely up there.

?

The alliance skyshard achievements in Cyrodiil each have 15 skyshards, but there is a single skyshard with its own achievement called the Mountain Skyshard:

http://dulfy.net/2014/04/02/eso-cyrodiil-mountain-skyshard-guide/

I don’t believe it’s included with any of the three Cyro shard packs, so we’ll still have to get that one, er, manually (or if you don’t want to walk on your hands, by foot or horse, I suppose).

So you are saying Gankers have a new place to camp?

If you want to waste your time trying to camp one skyshard no one except completionists will miss, then you do you, I guess?

Even fewer people will be after that shard now that they can buy the faction packs and get all the other ones in Cyro. So if anything, it’s an even worse spot to camp now than before.

virtus753

Camatoo wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.

I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.

All shards are the exact same price.

No, they aren't. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/7#skyshards

They cost 50 a pop. There's not a single pack that's more worth it than another because they all carry the same bang for buck.

There. Need me to draw it for you? They are all the same price, and the other dude said some packs are more worth it than others. They aren't. It'll be totally up only to the amount of points you need, and the cost per point won't change from 50 a pop.

All packs are worth getting depending on your needs and wallet size, and that's it. They claim those packs are worth it because you get 58 shards for 2900 crowns, and you can get the same 58 shards with any other packs that total up to 2900 when added. So they are all the same price.

Im not sure i get you there.

Seriously, i read 2 times through your post, but still dont get it. Maybe because im not a native speaker.
But do you really say all packs are worth the same money? Last time i counted cyrodill had more skyshards than craglorn.

So it makes a difference if i buy the cyrodill pack for 800 crowns and get 45 skyshards, or i buy the craglorn set for 900 crowns and get 12 skyshards.
Alteast that counts for me. And to be honest, cyrodill is the only pack worth buying, since its a pvp area, one of the biggest zones right now and also hard to aquire if you dont swap factions.
The rest seems just as a cashgrab.

“Cyrodiil” is not 800 crowns, because there is no single Cyrodiil pack. There are three Cyrodiil faction packs at 750 each. That’s 2250 crowns for 45 shards, or 50 crowns per shard.

Then IC is its own kettle of fish.

The number you list for Craglorn is also wrong. Craglorn has 18 total skyshards (12 lower, 6 upper), so 900 crowns is again 50 crowns per shard.

Edited: to correct numbers.

BaylorCorvette

Prices are perfectly fine.

Czeri

Do you need to have picked up all the shards to purchase a pack? I mean, could I gather the 2 shards closed behind gates on a different alliance alt and then purchase a bundle on to have those two unlocked on my main?

Tsar_Gekkou

Czeri wrote: »

Do you need to have picked up all the shards to purchase a pack? I mean, could I gather the 2 shards closed behind gates on a different alliance alt and then purchase a bundle on to have those two unlocked on my main?

You have to have gotten the achievement for getting all of the skyshards in that zone.

virtus753

Czeri wrote: »

Do you need to have picked up all the shards to purchase a pack? I mean, could I gather the 2 shards closed behind gates on a different alliance alt and then purchase a bundle on to have those two unlocked on my main?

Yes and No. Because Cyro is split up into three factions, as long as you get all 15 shards from a given faction on one toon, you unlock that Cyro faction pack on any toon. You do not need to unlock all 46 Cyro zone shards on the same toon first.

It saves you having to get behind an enemy gate, but you can't just pick up the 2 behind the gate on an alt.

Edited: to clarify.

AlnilamE

Camatoo wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

JKorr wrote: »

ZonasArch wrote: »

Vercingetorix wrote: »

The only packs worth getting are the PvP area skyshards. For the total cost of 2900 crowns, you get 58 skyshards (you still have the get the 1 mountain skyshard yourself), which amounts to 19.5 skill points on your new character. To be fair, you have to have already collected on a previous character and getting these skill points on a low level character isn't going to be game-breaking in any way since passives are locked until you level the skill lines up a bit. Nothing unfair is gained from these transactions - it's simply a convenience fee.

I personally don't see the issue with grabbing the PvE shards manually again, though - you can make an argument for the PvP shards since they can be locked behind a gate or you can be actively hindered by other players while trying to collect them in peace.

All shards are the exact same price.

No, they aren't. https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/crownstore/category/7#skyshards

They cost 50 a pop. There's not a single pack that's more worth it than another because they all carry the same bang for buck.

There. Need me to draw it for you? They are all the same price, and the other dude said some packs are more worth it than others. They aren't. It'll be totally up only to the amount of points you need, and the cost per point won't change from 50 a pop.

All packs are worth getting depending on your needs and wallet size, and that's it. They claim those packs are worth it because you get 58 shards for 2900 crowns, and you can get the same 58 shards with any other packs that total up to 2900 when added. So they are all the same price.

Im not sure i get you there.

Seriously, i read 2 times through your post, but still dont get it. Maybe because im not a native speaker.
But do you really say all packs are worth the same money? Last time i counted cyrodill had more skyshards than craglorn.

So it makes a difference if i buy the cyrodill pack for 800 crowns and get 45 skyshards, or i buy the craglorn set for 900 crowns and get 12 skyshards.
Alteast that counts for me. And to be honest, cyrodill is the only pack worth buying, since its a pvp area, one of the biggest zones right now and also hard to aquire if you dont swap factions.
The rest seems just as a cashgrab.

Cyrodiil is split into 3 packs of 15 skyshards each.

Verbal_Earthworm

I like this move, now when I go skyshard farming I can say I saved x crowns for each zone.

Highly motivational!

Mik195

Skyshards are a pain to get on console because you either have to interpret the cryptic clues or have a second device to look them up so spending dollars to save time and annoyance is fine.

Since PC has add-ons, finding skyshards is much easier. So if ZOS now bans that add-on since it is an advantage over those who play as designed, I'm definitely going to pop some popcorn cause that would be very amusing.

Jayne_Doe

Kurat wrote: »

That's bs. I rather collect shards than pay 22k crowns every time I make new character.

And you don't have to. Just go collect them in game.

Kezelb14_ESO

IzzyStardust wrote: »

Commancho wrote: »

22,250 crowns to unlock something that should be included in the game... HAHAHA

You mean something that IS included in the game?

All you have to do to get them in game is actually play the game.

Could you imagine the uproar if Blizzard made the account-wide flying achievement something you could either pay for, or grind it out on every toon? This is unacceptable.

Wolfpaw

ZOS choice, they're saving me money!

For this player it means no alts,
No need to buy additional wardrobe tabs
No need to sub for xp/craft cd's (800cp+ & MC)
No need to sub for dlc's to take alts through
No need to buy expansions that include a new class
No additional gold/cash sink for alts

Chrysa1is

If you buy skyshards, you are a loser.

skiidzman

This is some more cash-milking p2win bull****.

I don't care what anyone says. Its pay 2 win.

Yeah of course we have the option to go collect skyshards ourselves... but little rich boys with their mothers credit cards or deep breath nerds can just open their wallet and get all the skill points they want.

This was a terrible move on this studios part. Losing all interest quickly.

Ri_Khan

Chrysa1is wrote: »

If you buy skyshards, you are a loser.

Thank you for saying this so I didn't have to.

TheRealPotoroo

PrinceDamien wrote: »

Cyrodill is the one I find most anoying to get due to 4 shards being locked behind enemy gates most of the time.
The rest I can get without problems.

That's the one I most wanted too. I'd pay for each of my alts to never have to go anywhere near Cyrodiil except that I don't have the last two in each enemy zone, so ZOS have saved me some money. The other one I'd pay for is IC, but they must have added some skyshards somewhere because I did have them but I don't have the achievement.

JadeCoin

Mik195 wrote: »

Skyshards are a pain to get on console because you either have to interpret the cryptic clues or have a second device to look them up so spending dollars to save time and annoyance is fine.

Since PC has add-ons, finding skyshards is much easier. So if ZOS now bans that add-on since it is an advantage over those who play as designed, I'm definitely going to pop some popcorn cause that would be very amusing.

I'm pretty sure ZOS will never ban this type of add-on because (at least on one platform, anyway) it covers up some shoddy game design. The skyshard clue system is just a hangover from the slow-going level-gated days before One Tamriel, when linear progression through the zones was enforced. There's a reason that model failed miserably, and they really should have overhauled the skyshard system when One Tamriel was launched, but they didn't. PC players might very well quit if they had to play anything close to the time warp that is the console version at this point. I mean, let's face it, a lot of console players have quit because they had to play the console version.