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5 years later.. isn't time for flying mounts already?
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Hurbster✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nah, not really needed.So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.0 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭no. That is how WoW eventually got watered down to a "cartoonish" MMO.
oh bullcrap.
1. wow was always cartoonish.
2. flying mounts were introduced during wow's most highly acclaimed expansion and were a selling point of that expansion.
3. wow travel is horrible nonsense and flying is actualy kinda necessary there, unlike ESO
So go to WoW lol. Elder scrolls is about the first person viewpoints and how you experience/interpret the world+races. You can't do that on the back of a Dragon.
I did play WoW actualy, I'm also playing ESo for different reasons and my post earlier said that in ESO specifically flying mounts are not really needed - our travel is NOT the ridiculous nonsense that wow travel is for one.
what i WAS replying was to that very false statement of how flying made wow worse. no. no it didn't. in WoW flying mounts were a boon, especially back when Blizzard still bothered to design gameplay elements with flying in mind, but without turning terrain into annoying nonsense, so that that flight was part of the gameplay rather then a bandaid on a stupid zone design.
there is a time and place for everything. and flight has its time and place. just becasue it doesn't quite work with current version of ESO - doesn't automatically make it bad. and in any case, I think it would be kinda bool to have a zone that has, say gliding mechanics. a sort of flight that is part of the gameplay, ala GW2 (and before you say - go to GW2, been there done that, all i'm saying it was an interesting mechanic)
P.S. Elder Scrolls games are in part about appreciating the beauty of the world. at least for me. and you can most certainly do that from a bird's eye view. you still interact with a world and npc's on a ground, its not like flying stops you from being part of the world. as it is, I already skip anything I don't want to engage with, in ESO - through combination of stealth and teleportation (which is why I do NOT think ZoS should invest resources into introducing full fledged flight)
I would seriously love more vantage points though. heck - make them into terrain puzzles that you have to figure out how to traverse. I think seeing larger vistas would be pretty nice. and scenic.Edited by Linaleah on 11 April 2019 22:16dirty worthless casual.
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barney2525✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Little known history -
Flying mounts were created and then banned after experimentation by Orc brothers Orville and Wilbur Wrong. Taking the principals of magic carpets and birds, they enchanted a sheep with their flying spell. Having no sense of direction or control the sheep simply floated higher and higher and was never seen again.
Orville and Wilbur were prosecuted for crimes against sheep-manity and sentenced to 20 years of listening to a council of Altmer expound upon how great they are.
No one has dared attempt such a spell since due to the heinous nature of the penalty, if caught.
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »Won't someone think of the slaughterfish? How they gonna eat if you can jus fly over the waters?
This is precisely why I wanted a turtle mount that could run on land or float on water0 -
BrightOblivion✭✭✭✭✭no. That is how WoW eventually got watered down to a "cartoonish" MMO.
oh bullcrap.
1. wow was always cartoonish.
2. flying mounts were introduced during wow's most highly acclaimed expansion and were a selling point of that expansion.
3. wow travel is horrible nonsense and flying is actualy kinda necessary there, unlike ESO
So go to WoW lol. Elder scrolls is about the first person viewpoints and how you experience/interpret the world+races. You can't do that on the back of a Dragon.
I did play WoW actualy, I'm also playing ESo for different reasons and my post earlier said that in ESO specifically flying mounts are not really needed - our travel is NOT the ridiculous nonsense that wow travel is for one.
what i WAS replying was to that very false statement of how flying made wow worse. no. no it didn't. in WoW flying mounts were a boon, especially back when Blizzard still bothered to design gameplay elements with flying in mind, but without turning terrain into annoying nonsense, so that that flight was part of the gameplay rather then a bandaid on a stupid zone design.
there is a time and place for everything. and flight has its time and place. just becasue it doesn't quite work with current version of ESO - doesn't automatically make it bad. and in any case, I think it would be kinda bool to have a zone that has, say gliding mechanics. a sort of flight that is part of the gameplay, ala GW2 (and before you say - go to GW2, been there done that, all i'm saying it was an interesting mechanic)
P.S. Elder Scrolls games are in part about appreciating the beauty of the world. at least for me. and you can most certainly do that from a bird's eye view. you still interact with a world and npc's on a ground, its not like flying stops you from being part of the world. as it is, I already skip anything I don't want to engage with, in ESO - through combination of stealth and teleportation (which is why I do NOT think ZoS should invest resources into introducing full fledged flight)
I would seriously love more vantage points though. heck - make them into terrain puzzles that you have to figure out how to traverse. I think seeing larger vistas would be pretty nice. and scenic.
I will say that the mounts and glider in GW2 are incredibly fun, in no small part due to the fact that the content in that game is designed around it, and it's easily one of my favorite post-max-level progression systems. In core Tyria, though, problems have arisen and they've had to create no mount/no glide zones in places, like where people took the shortest paths to avoid Jumping Puzzles. If older content's not designed for something, its implementation is a little hairy.
Also, as much as I enjoy (some) of the jumping puzzles in GW2 (the clocktower drives me batty and SAB made me ill when I tried it the other day), I'm not sure ESO's jumping is designed as well for the precision that would need. I mean, sure, I've got some favorite perches when I feel like a bit of parkour, but I'm just as likely to hit a lag spike and massively overshoot the clothesline in Deshaan I'm jumping to as I am to land on it. If i needed to navigate around that in order to fill the eye icon on my map for map completion/the dlc zone's title? Yikes. I could see that making me frustrated fairly quickly.0 -
Tyralbin✭✭✭✭✭EvilAutoTech wrote: »Won't someone think of the slaughterfish? How they gonna eat if you can jus fly over the waters?
Flying Slaughterfish of course ;pLive a little love a lot send all your gold to this Imperials pot.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Levitation was almost certainly around in the 2nd era. I don't know if that included flying very high though.
It does not matter when it was around or if it includes flying. There is not a true Z axis in the game so it is not possible to do a flying mount. Adding it would require far to much work than it would be worth.0 -
OrdoHermetica✭✭✭✭✭
✭No. First, they would have to redesign pretty much the entire game world to account for it, and that's a LOT of work. Just ask Blizzard. Not only is it a ton of work, it's also a ton of work that doesn't really bring much to the game except for a novelty factor, since this game wasn't designed with that in mind (unlike parts of GW2 or post-flying Blizzard content).
Second, lore-wise, flying mounts just aren't very common in the Elder Scrolls universe. You have a very select few Altmer who ride griffins, along with a handful of Bretons who got it from the Altmer, you have the odd Dragonborn who rides dragons, and... that's pretty much it. They would have to pretty thoroughly shatter the game lore to do it, and while ESO is often willing to bend lore, that's probably several steps beyond.
So, in summary, it would be a lore-breaking novelty feature that would require a tremendous amount of effort to implement. Let's not and say we didn't.Edited by OrdoHermetica on 11 April 2019 22:520 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BrightOblivion wrote: »no. That is how WoW eventually got watered down to a "cartoonish" MMO.
oh bullcrap.
1. wow was always cartoonish.
2. flying mounts were introduced during wow's most highly acclaimed expansion and were a selling point of that expansion.
3. wow travel is horrible nonsense and flying is actualy kinda necessary there, unlike ESO
So go to WoW lol. Elder scrolls is about the first person viewpoints and how you experience/interpret the world+races. You can't do that on the back of a Dragon.
I did play WoW actualy, I'm also playing ESo for different reasons and my post earlier said that in ESO specifically flying mounts are not really needed - our travel is NOT the ridiculous nonsense that wow travel is for one.
what i WAS replying was to that very false statement of how flying made wow worse. no. no it didn't. in WoW flying mounts were a boon, especially back when Blizzard still bothered to design gameplay elements with flying in mind, but without turning terrain into annoying nonsense, so that that flight was part of the gameplay rather then a bandaid on a stupid zone design.
there is a time and place for everything. and flight has its time and place. just becasue it doesn't quite work with current version of ESO - doesn't automatically make it bad. and in any case, I think it would be kinda bool to have a zone that has, say gliding mechanics. a sort of flight that is part of the gameplay, ala GW2 (and before you say - go to GW2, been there done that, all i'm saying it was an interesting mechanic)
P.S. Elder Scrolls games are in part about appreciating the beauty of the world. at least for me. and you can most certainly do that from a bird's eye view. you still interact with a world and npc's on a ground, its not like flying stops you from being part of the world. as it is, I already skip anything I don't want to engage with, in ESO - through combination of stealth and teleportation (which is why I do NOT think ZoS should invest resources into introducing full fledged flight)
I would seriously love more vantage points though. heck - make them into terrain puzzles that you have to figure out how to traverse. I think seeing larger vistas would be pretty nice. and scenic.
I will say that the mounts and glider in GW2 are incredibly fun, in no small part due to the fact that the content in that game is designed around it, and it's easily one of my favorite post-max-level progression systems. In core Tyria, though, problems have arisen and they've had to create no mount/no glide zones in places, like where people took the shortest paths to avoid Jumping Puzzles. If older content's not designed for something, its implementation is a little hairy.
Also, as much as I enjoy (some) of the jumping puzzles in GW2 (the clocktower drives me batty and SAB made me ill when I tried it the other day), I'm not sure ESO's jumping is designed as well for the precision that would need. I mean, sure, I've got some favorite perches when I feel like a bit of parkour, but I'm just as likely to hit a lag spike and massively overshoot the clothesline in Deshaan I'm jumping to as I am to land on it. If i needed to navigate around that in order to fill the eye icon on my map for map completion/the dlc zone's title? Yikes. I could see that making me frustrated fairly quickly.
I actualy agree with you on all counts here. which is why IMO if they do at some point implement anything like gliding or jumping, it would have to be restricted to zones designed for it. but in general, as much as i love the feel of soaring through the sky - at least convenience of mounts in ESO is really redundant. we already have incredibly convenient travel in this game. in wow... i constantly miss flying mounts when I have no acess to them. in ESO? almost never. and when I do, its generally because I see something cool up on a mountaintop and I really want to make my way to it, but there is an invisible wall in a way, or a cliff face that is to steep to climb or both.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***0 -
Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Heck No... that was the lamest thing they ever came out with in WoW. Well one of the lamest things... or was that EQ2, eh , either way.Edited by Reevster on 12 April 2019 00:100
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Osteos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sure thingDAGGERFALL COVENANTNA PCFormer Vehemence MemberOnistka Valerius <> Artemis Renault <> Gonk gra-Ugrash <> Karietta <> Zercon at-Rusa <> Genevieve Renault <> Ktaka <> Brenlyn Renault1 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Heck No... that was the lamest thing they ever came out with in WoW. Well one of the lamest things... or was that EQ2, eh , either way.
that's just like... your opinion, man. seriously this anti flight sentiment is why terrain in WoW has been getting progressively worse and worse. anti flight agenda is one of the lamest things they came up with in Warlords of Draenor. NOT flight itself.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
Reevster✭✭✭✭✭Heck No... that was the lamest thing they ever came out with in WoW. Well one of the lamest things... or was that EQ2, eh , either way.
that's just like... your opinion, man. seriously this anti flight sentiment is why terrain in WoW has been getting progressively worse and worse. anti flight agenda is one of the lamest things they came up with in Warlords of Draenor. NOT flight itself.
Thats just your opinion , man... this flight agenda should not "grow wings" ... see what I did there .
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Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Heck No... that was the lamest thing they ever came out with in WoW. Well one of the lamest things... or was that EQ2, eh , either way.
that's just like... your opinion, man. seriously this anti flight sentiment is why terrain in WoW has been getting progressively worse and worse. anti flight agenda is one of the lamest things they came up with in Warlords of Draenor. NOT flight itself.
Thats just your opinion , man... this flight agenda should not "grow wings" ... see what I did there .
some opinions are just... worse then others.
just becasue flight is not needed for ESO - does NOT make it bad in other games. and to reiterate. flight was introduced in BC. one of the most highly acclaimed expansions in WoW. it was in fact one of the selling points of that expansion and it. was. GLORIOUS. flight in GW2 is also fun. flying is fun when the game is designed with flight as one of the actual game mechanics, rather then a way to skip them.dirty worthless casual.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***2 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »Yes! Hell yes.. hell freaking yes! You all shitting me. Open your eyes. It is freaking so enjoyable flying around and about on a flying dragon and flaming phoenix..
There's this game called WoW. I hear it's got plenty of things that will let you ride them..CP2,100 Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
Quest Objective: OMG Go Talk To That Kitty!0 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I loved flying in WoW. I left the game when they chose to make flying available only in "OLD" content. That was my straw. You know, the one that broke the camel's back....
I don't think this world translates particularly well to flying mounts. For one thing, as others have noted, there is no Z axis. That's a killer right there.
And.... I don't want to have flying again.... just to have it removed again.... I suppose that's the schadenfreude in me - but it happened once, so it might happen again.1 -
lelink88✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »Little known history -
Flying mounts were created and then banned after experimentation by Orc brothers Orville and Wilbur Wrong. Taking the principals of magic carpets and birds, they enchanted a sheep with their flying spell. Having no sense of direction or control the sheep simply floated higher and higher and was never seen again.
Orville and Wilbur were prosecuted for crimes against sheep-manity and sentenced to 20 years of listening to a council of Altmer expound upon how great they are.
No one has dared attempt such a spell since due to the heinous nature of the penalty, if caught.
LoL. really, is it true Tamriel history0 -
Tigerseye✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭CipherNine wrote: »Hell no. that is one thing that will make me quit ESO.
For every person who threatens to leave a game, on a forum, because of flying, another (at least) 10 would join if it was introduced.
When they got rid of flying in WoW (or threatened to and then made it far harder to acquire) there was an huge exodus, to the point where they could no longer publish their sub numbers.
That wasn't the only reason people left, but it was a primary factor.
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Ryknos✭✭✭You're telling me that a game where a little stupid furball that somehow managed to not get killed by a 50 foot tall monster and tells you to kill 20 of them simply because one of them bit him is better than Elder Scrolls?
Also we have portals. Flying is so 2007.1 -
thedovahmon✭✭✭✭You lost me at Tera. Only Lolitas play that Korean MMO at this point.
If you really want flying mounts, try FFXIV. The last thing I want to see is a bunch of whiny Bretons riding around on Cliff racers in Cyrodill...Or anywhere really...I never go to Cyrodill."Voted most likely to reply with a reaction image. According to the Mournhold High School Yearbook."0 -
me_ming✭✭✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »Get some flying mounts in ESO already, for goodness sake. I've not been able to return to play ESO. Get some good flying mounts in this game and bring back the champion points cap increase, and I'll come back to this game. It's another mistake to take away the CP cap increase; which is a major part of my enjoyment of this game. Bring the CP cap increase back, and I'll come back to this game.
I seriously hope you DON'T come back to the game.
"We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
-Caldwell, "The Final Assault"
"There is always a choice. But you don't get to choose what is true, you only get to choose what you will do about it..."
-Abnur Tharn, "God of Schemes"]7 -
Wolfshead✭✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »This game is past due to have flying mounts. I've been playing Tera for the past few months, and I have been enjoying that game because it has all kinds of flying mounts; from dragons to flying wolves and cycles. Oh, I'm not here to advertise or market for Tera; nor am I here to say which game is better. However, I have been enjoying the hell out of Tera because of the flying mounts, and being able to fly high above the landscapes and cities.
Zen, Bethesda, whoever the power that may be, go over to the Tera developers and make some friends. Get some flying mounts in ESO already, for goodness sake. I've not been able to return to play ESO. Get some good flying mounts in this game and bring back the champion points cap increase, and I'll come back to this game. It's another mistake to take away the CP cap increase; which is a major part of my enjoyment of this game. Bring the CP cap increase back, and I'll come back to this game. I want to see our toons (or characters to those that are jaded by the term toon) get past CP 1000. Tera's been getting a lot of my money where I should have been spending in ESO. Tis.. tis..
A big fat NO
Why do you want to frack up a nice game with ugly flying mount serious just see what happen to WoW hardly any player in their zone nowadays for you just fly to quest pop down and kill the mobs and then fly away again talk about not interact with anyone elseIf you find yourself alone, riding in green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled; for you are in Elysium, and you're already deadWhat we do in life, echoes in eternity0 -
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✭By the Eight Divines, no, keep any flying mounts away from ESO, please.Member of Alith Legion: https://www.alithlegion.com0 -
Mettaricana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GreenhaloX wrote: »
Enjoy tera once you hit max level and the game ceases to exist like it did 1 month after launh... flying mounts are pointless in eso just a long ass wayshrine to be honest1 -
Countdownical✭✭✭No thank you!@Countdownical Experienced High-End Raider - PC EU - Here since Feb 27, 2014.Lead of Flipping Coins - Rawl'kha, Reaper's March.
Lead of Rolling Coins - Belkarth, Craglorn.
Lead of Shining Coins - Elden Root, Grahtwood.
All are TRADE Guilds. Contact me for invites!0 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, it isn't..."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4330
