Adding bonuses for the type of guild is open for abuse and leads to negative behaviors. Is it guild trials night? Oops, we're changing our guild type for the night to trials. 5 members out in Cyrodiil? They beg the GM to swap guild types for the night or threaten to leave. On that note, why not just make your own guild of 1 to get the pvp bonus? Hmm, I need to craft up some new gear. I'll drop my pvp guild of 1 and make a crafting guild of 1 for 5 minutes so I can craft my gear, then dump that one. Guild loyalty? Only as long as any given event is going on. You'd have players skipping around guilds on a regular basis because of the bonuses. There may be ways to make it work, but it's broken on the surface.

Some of the other ideas are good though.

i hope what this thread is asking for never happens.
i love playing solo and i hope im allowed stay that way.
eso is awesome when in group / guild and yes i want you to have all you want in your guilds, but i love solo ability in pvp and the ease of not being Forced to play with others.
please dont force Guild stuff onto us.

yes, im being serious.

I disagree with giving players buffs for being in a guild. I'm in 5 and I still disagree.

I agree with better guild UI and management tools and better control over guild bank

Also a true guild hall would be nice

Gaangreen wrote: »

It sucks managing raffles and keeping track of who donates, it would be great to have a system that does some of that for us. Like a guild NPC that officers can create small events for, and players can purchase tickets to, and when the time comes, he announces winners.

Here's an alternative perspective.

I am mortified. Literally, properly mortified every single time I see someone spamming zone chat recruiting for their guild advertising things like raffles. Which seems to be most of them.

The only other MMOs I've played recently are Star Trek Online and Guild Wars 2. Have played plenty of others but not lately. I've never seen guild sponsored gambling in any MMO except ESO.

Nerouyn wrote: »

I am mortified. Literally, properly mortified every single time I see someone spamming zone chat recruiting for their guild advertising things like raffles. Which seems to be most of them.

The only other MMOs I've played recently are Star Trek Online and Guild Wars 2. Have played plenty of others but not lately. I've never seen guild sponsored gambling in any MMO except ESO.

I hate needing to run and find “interesting“ prizes for raffles for the guild and exhausting auctions that spam guild chats. We Tried to combat it by offering discount guild crafting. We had access to almost everything in the game. People are too lazy to order or people have terrible communication. I Even created a nice form and crafting calculator to guide them.

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

Yeah, it would be nice if guilds had bonuses, but I don't think boosted stats for Pve guilds and boosted AP gains for PvP guilds would be the right incentive. Rather get a guild ranking (but a serious one, not the simply "games played = MMR level" ranking that we have in BGs..) and let the top 3 (or any other number) guilds have a special mount or skin for a certain period (say 14 days or a month). Something in that direction.

Would make people play a bit more organized instead brainless zerging in cyro.

My ideas were just quick thoughts, but aesthetics would be great. A bunch of bonuses that wouldn’t effect gameplay or bonuses that make QoL things better in selected role areas. Im not sure if i would want it as exclusive as (top 3 guilds) to only get cool things, it would be nice to have each guild moving towards a goal.

On top of that, I wouldn’t want guilds to be switching roles at will(maybe a guild vote), it should take time or effort to switch or a drawback to switching. NOt sure how id address player loyalty. Maybe players only get the guild bonuses after a min of a week?

KnightsMentor wrote: »

Improvements to guilds are definitely on the top of my wishlist, that and PVE stealth mechanics.

Guilds right now are hardly anything less than a large group chat and access to a “sometimes” guild trader. The need to be much more. Especially with the storylines, it doesn’t make sense to me

redspecter23 wrote: »

Adding bonuses for the type of guild is open for abuse and leads to negative behaviors. Is it guild trials night? Oops, we're changing our guild type for the night to trials. 5 members out in Cyrodiil? They beg the GM to swap guild types for the night or threaten to leave. On that note, why not just make your own guild of 1 to get the pvp bonus? Hmm, I need to craft up some new gear. I'll drop my pvp guild of 1 and make a crafting guild of 1 for 5 minutes so I can craft my gear, then dump that one. Guild loyalty? Only as long as any given event is going on. You'd have players skipping around guilds on a regular basis because of the bonuses. There may be ways to make it work, but it's broken on the surface.

Some of the other ideas are good though.

That's why MMORPGs implement cooldowns and taxes when switching, membership duration requirements for bonuses and so on.
Everything suggested in OP is doable and other games use similar features with no issues.
For example, in one of the MMORPGs I've played earlier there was a guild skills system - passive skills branches which could be unlocked when the guild reaches certain levels. Leveling the guild is done by participating in guild vs guild battles at the special battlegrounds once in a week, the more battles the guild wins, the more XP scores it gets. And there was an option to reset passives, but this action requires some quite big amount of gold spent and the guild level is getting reset as well, so they have to level it up again to get another set of skills. And when players leave their guild, they can't be invited to another guild for a week.
And ESO already has members quantity requirements to get certain features as ability to hire a guild trader, to get access to a guild bank, so why do you think they would let one-man-guild get any bonuses?

Nerouyn wrote: »

Gaangreen wrote: »

It sucks managing raffles and keeping track of who donates, it would be great to have a system that does some of that for us. Like a guild NPC that officers can create small events for, and players can purchase tickets to, and when the time comes, he announces winners.

Here's an alternative perspective.

I am mortified. Literally, properly mortified every single time I see someone spamming zone chat recruiting for their guild advertising things like raffles. Which seems to be most of them.

The only other MMOs I've played recently are Star Trek Online and Guild Wars 2. Have played plenty of others but not lately. I've never seen guild sponsored gambling in any MMO except ESO.

I've seen them in SWTOR too, but nowhere else. In my trading guild days, I'd donate an extra gold per the local rules to avoid being entered into the raffle. I detest gambling, even small-scale stuff like this. I can see why guild leadership might want to implement them as incentive to donate, but I'm surprised the player base here seems to enjoy raffles so much.

*shrug* To each their own, I guess.

Guilds members already have a bonus - they can participate in the game's economy.


But, yeah. UI improvements don't suck.

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Guilds members already have a bonus - they can participate in the game's economy.


But, yeah. UI improvements don't suck.

guilds ARE the economy

remove guilds and you've got people spamming zone chat, what kind of economy is that?

SosRuvaak wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Guilds members already have a bonus - they can participate in the game's economy.


But, yeah. UI improvements don't suck.

guilds ARE the economy

remove guilds and you've got people spamming zone chat, what kind of economy is that?

It's not much of an economy even with guilds. But that's a whole 'nuther can of worms

I wouldn't want to see anything that impacted the stats as much as 50%, thats absolutely insane. But minor buffs like maybe tiers that would reach 5% tops in trials.

Like if you were in 1 trial guild, and they had all of their tiers unlocked... the bonus could be:
Tier 1: 1% to Physical Resistance
Tier 2: 1% to Elemental Resistance
Tier 3: 1% to Poison Resistance
Tier 4: 1% additional Healing
and so forth for how many tiers, and for each trials guild you were in, it would combine (up to 5 guilds).

And another major thing Id like to see for guild management is a section where gold is separated from everyone gold, the GM's, officers, the public or whoevers permissions is set. The gold belongs to the guild after its deposited, and can only be used for bidding. That would make it a lot easier to manage for the GM and officers to track their gold from guild gold and help combat corruption in guilds. And if a GM is gone for longer than 30 days, either the rank should be passed to the next highest active person or permissions are automatically changed to let them bid with the gold in the bank.

@Girl_Number8 We do have a guild bank, but without someone trustworthy it can be very easily taken advantage of (every day theres a report of guild robberies). And on top of that, my GM I know has put all of his money into the guild, there is no easy division between his money and the guild money. Theres just no easy way to keep track.

I would like to know your ideas about the guild tabbard, and improving the guild store/bidding system.
I wish it would remember the price you last listed an item at. So if it expires, or if you sell it again months later you have a good starting point.

Nope Im on console. No add-ons. I definitely notice these things lol @Temeraire507