Tan9oSuccka wrote: »Or you could stop chasing the meta?
These changes really aren’t that significant.
They went above and beyond with even granting free tokens.
Bouldercleave wrote: »How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Because you can't see how this issue can financially impact some players doesn't make you right. Glad you are happy with everything. Some of us are clearly not.
How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.
Omg, fact that somebody prepared ton of master writs and then during 2x event managed to exploit to lvl 50 in few hours doesn't mean that everybody can do it. Actually it's ~ 10 hours of heavy and tiresome grind to get from lvl 3 to lvl 50 with dolmens/craglorn/random dailies etc, also you need character slot which is not cheap at all. And of course you need to grind undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/skill lines/ all morphs to 4 etc etc etc, it's huge ton of time and work.
Bouldercleave wrote: »How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.
While I do agree on the fact that you don't have to change your race, you are being a little bit dishonest here. A boring as heck grind with the dolmens might bringyou back to 50 in a few hours, allright, but what about the riding lessons, fighters / mages guild, undaunted and what not ? Or alliance war skills, for that matter. If someone uses any of those skills, it's gonna take way more time.
So, for those people for whom it really matters to be on top, it's either regrind sh*t forever or pay. Even more so if they weren't already owners of the "any race any alliance" unlock.
This is clearly a cash grab when ZoS is giving away 3 free tokens which equals almost $80 American currency now multiply that by the number of player across all consoles ZoS is actually looking to lose a substantial sum of money only offset by the players who buy the araa pack. Yes they are getting money from people for the dlc but the patch they make nothing on it. ZoS will still profit mainly because of the dungeon dlc but when you look at what your getting in return with the patch that requires no purchase can you still call this a cash grab.
Bouldercleave wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Because you can't see how this issue can financially impact some players doesn't make you right. Glad you are happy with everything. Some of us are clearly not.
How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.
Omg, fact that somebody prepared ton of master writs and then during 2x event managed to exploit to lvl 50 in few hours doesn't mean that everybody can do it. Actually it's ~ 10 hours of heavy and tiresome grind to get from lvl 3 to lvl 50 with dolmens/craglorn/random dailies etc, also you need character slot which is not cheap at all. And of course you need to grind undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/skill lines/ all morphs to 4 etc etc etc, it's huge ton of time and work.
Boo Hoo 10 whole hours to max level? What ever will you do?
Sorry, but you guys are frigging balls out sad.
$25 DLC what?
You have 3, free, tokens to re-choose between the original races you had available to you. Simple, and quite generous
MartiniDaniels wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »Bouldercleave wrote: »Because you can't see how this issue can financially impact some players doesn't make you right. Glad you are happy with everything. Some of us are clearly not.
How does it financially impact you? You don't HAVE to change your race. You yourself have said you don't care about questing, reading, lore, etc. Just grind out a new character. It takes a couple of hours to get to 50 and move on.
Omg, fact that somebody prepared ton of master writs and then during 2x event managed to exploit to lvl 50 in few hours doesn't mean that everybody can do it. Actually it's ~ 10 hours of heavy and tiresome grind to get from lvl 3 to lvl 50 with dolmens/craglorn/random dailies etc, also you need character slot which is not cheap at all. And of course you need to grind undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/skill lines/ all morphs to 4 etc etc etc, it's huge ton of time and work.
Boo Hoo 10 whole hours to max level? What ever will you do?
Sorry, but you guys are frigging balls out sad.
Don't need to boo hoo. Explain how you will level up in 2 hours and how much this will cost you.
And you ignored this part - "undaunted/mages/psijic/fighters/skill lines/ all morphs to 4". Only loading screens between wayshrines for all psijic locations and mage guild books will take 2 hoursand oops.. fast move between wayshrines is in case you got friend which you don't like so much that ready to ask him to spend several hours of life just to tp you across all tamriel.
Bouldercleave wrote: »If it REALLY matters to be on top - shell out the $20.00. The real top dogs did that upon release to make sure they got the race and alliance they wanted.
If you are serious about being on top - then get serious.
Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
This is clearly a cash grab when ZoS is giving away 3 free tokens which equals almost $80 American currency now multiply that by the number of player across all consoles ZoS is actually looking to lose a substantial sum of money only offset by the players who buy the araa pack.
Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
“I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.”
Literally your own quote ^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I already bought ARAA months ago. Stop misinforming people
RaceReistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
“I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.”
Literally your own quote ^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I already bought ARAA months ago. Stop misinforming people
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
Literally my own quote.
Bouldercleave wrote: »If it REALLY matters to be on top - shell out the $20.00. The real top dogs did that upon release to make sure they got the race and alliance they wanted.
If you are serious about being on top - then get serious.
Never said this was about me. I've owned the any race any alliance pack from day one, and absolutely NOT to be on top. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to play a sneak thief Bosmer from the Daggerfall Covenant. Now I can play a Bosmer guard from Daggerfall Covenant. It doesn't quite feel the same.
But hey, you do realise that not everyone plays with the income of your average USA / UK / France / Germany income, right ? For quite a lot of players, those 20 bucks could mean way more than for us lucky enough to be among the richest nations on earth. So for them, the choice may be "be serious and pay up, but don't eat for a week / roll with the punches and be sub par". Granted, if it comes to THAT level of choice, it's ano brainer. No one needs a +1% DPS that bad, and if your guild tells you otherwise, they're a*****es.
Bouldercleave wrote: »If it REALLY matters to be on top - shell out the $20.00. The real top dogs did that upon release to make sure they got the race and alliance they wanted.
If you are serious about being on top - then get serious.
Never said this was about me. I've owned the any race any alliance pack from day one, and absolutely NOT to be on top. I couldn't care less. I just wanted to play a sneak thief Bosmer from the Daggerfall Covenant. Now I can play a Bosmer guard from Daggerfall Covenant. It doesn't quite feel the same.
But hey, you do realise that not everyone plays with the income of your average USA / UK / France / Germany income, right ? For quite a lot of players, those 20 bucks could mean way more than for us lucky enough to be among the richest nations on earth. So for them, the choice may be "be serious and pay up, but don't eat for a week / roll with the punches and be sub par". Granted, if it comes to THAT level of choice, it's ano brainer. No one needs a +1% DPS that bad, and if your guild tells you otherwise, they're a*****es.
RaceReistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
“I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.”
Literally your own quote ^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I already bought ARAA months ago. Stop misinforming people
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
Literally my own quote.
Right, he PAID for it already, you did not so you do not have the option for any race, any alliance. You are not entitled to something you DID NOT PAY FOR.
Oh right sorry. You misinformed people in your own thread:RaceReistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
“I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.”
Literally your own quote ^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I already bought ARAA months ago. Stop misinforming people
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
Literally my own quote.
RaceReistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »Please stop misinforming people, thanks. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Bouldercleave wrote: »twilightwarrick wrote: »Hi I don't think its fair , we cant change our race to whatever we chose, with the game tokens, after the latest patch, without a bloody 25 dollar dlc
most of us never asked for the race changes, well I certainly didn't, and I feel my choice is now a bit of let down after this update, be fair Zenermax/ Bethesda and stop
trying to make a buck off everything in the game, this really highlights their greed.
Life's not fair. You even say in your OP that you didn't ask for one -which means you don't really even care.
Stop stirring drama up on something that you don't even care about.
You stop. OP has every right to voice his complaint when getting ripped off.
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
“I'm not going to read anything. It's not important to me. I don't read or listen to anything in the game. I don't care about any of it. All I want to do is use free race change token to switch to new race that is not the two that I have a choice of without paying money because the company gave me something called a change race token. But I can't do that. The change race token is very misleading.”
Literally your own quote ^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also I already bought ARAA months ago. Stop misinforming people
Oh right sorry. You are not pigeon holed into having to purchase an upgrade if you want to use your free change race token and have an option of choosing from more than two different races.
Literally my own quote.
Right, he PAID for it already, you did not so you do not have the option for any race, any alliance. You are not entitled to something you DID NOT PAY FOR.