Sprint Bug

frozywozy · October 2018

Nermy wrote: »

I saw that in the PTS notes. Good to see it being addressed because it still affects me about 2-3 times a night.

Where did you see that exactly? This is all I can come up with.

Sharee · October 2018

frozywozy wrote: »

Nermy wrote: »

I saw that in the PTS notes. Good to see it being addressed because it still affects me about 2-3 times a night.

Where did you see that exactly? This is all I can come up with.

Its in the 4.1.11 live notes: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/438573/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-1-11

"We’ve also added some logging on the backend to help us pinpoint exactly what is causing your character to get stuck sprinting while in combat."

Koolio · October 2018

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392283/2h-attack-bug-na-ps4-causes-character-lockout#latest

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/414169/a-new-sprint-bug-that-causes-character-lockout#latest

I brought this up with 3-8 videos since January and it just got added in this week.

Thogard · October 2018

It’s the same mechanism as the block bug, which does for block what sprint bug does for sprint. Block bug is far easier to recreate.. long story short, for one reason or another your client is failing to send a message to the server that you are no longer holding down the “block” or “sprint” toggle.

The block bug should be easier for them to isolate, fixing one will fix the other.

The cause was the patch that “moved a few passives from server to client to improve performance in cyrodil”

https://youtube.com/watch?v=gWD502-_cUk

Sharee · October 2018

Thogard wrote: »

long story short, for one reason or another your client is failing to send a message to the server that you are no longer holding down the “block” or “sprint” toggle.

This happens 100% of the time when you get one of the new split-second "mini-loadscreens" that started plaguing cyrodiil couple of months ago.

Whenever you get a load screen, the game "forgets" you had a key held down, so when the loadscreen passes and you release the key, the client does not recognize it as "release" (because it wasn't held down in the firstplace, from the client's point of view).

Here's an example. I get a mini-loadscreen 2 seconds into the video. After that, i released the sprint key, but the game behaves like it was stil held down, you can even see prisoner set proccing it's mana regen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZjlnPzoyBA

I suspect that sometimes you get a load screen that so short you dont even perceive it, but it still gets your sprint stuck.

Thogard · October 2018

Sharee wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

long story short, for one reason or another your client is failing to send a message to the server that you are no longer holding down the “block” or “sprint” toggle.

This happens 100% of the time when you get one of the new split-second "mini-loadscreens" that started plaguing cyrodiil couple of months ago.

Whenever you get a load screen, the game "forgets" you had a key held down, so when the loadscreen passes and you release the key, the client does not recognize it as "release" (because it wasn't held down in the firstplace, from the client's point of view).

Here's an example. I get a mini-loadscreen 2 seconds into the video. After that, i released the sprint key, but the game behaves like it was stil held down, you can even see prisoner set proccing it's mana regen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZjlnPzoyBA

I suspect that sometimes you get a load screen that so short you dont even perceive it, but it still gets your sprint stuck.

While i think that a mini load screen is certainly one of the mechanism that blocks the client from sending the "sprint toggled off" command to the server, I'm sure that there are other mechanisms. That's very interesting though that you've managed to isolate one of the causes. This is great progress.

Sharee · October 2018

Thogard wrote: »

Sharee wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

long story short, for one reason or another your client is failing to send a message to the server that you are no longer holding down the “block” or “sprint” toggle.

This happens 100% of the time when you get one of the new split-second "mini-loadscreens" that started plaguing cyrodiil couple of months ago.

Whenever you get a load screen, the game "forgets" you had a key held down, so when the loadscreen passes and you release the key, the client does not recognize it as "release" (because it wasn't held down in the firstplace, from the client's point of view).

Here's an example. I get a mini-loadscreen 2 seconds into the video. After that, i released the sprint key, but the game behaves like it was stil held down, you can even see prisoner set proccing it's mana regen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZjlnPzoyBA

I suspect that sometimes you get a load screen that so short you dont even perceive it, but it still gets your sprint stuck.

While i think that a mini load screen is certainly one of the mechanism that blocks the client from sending the "sprint toggled off" command to the server, I'm sure that there are other mechanisms. That's very interesting though that you've managed to isolate one of the causes. This is great progress.

Yea i didn't mean to say there cannot possibly be other causes. Its just that this one (the loadscreens) is very obvious - i regularly get two or even three when riding from dragonclaw to bruma, in rapid sequence. And the "stuck in sprint" bug only manifested for the first time for me at the same time the patch which caused the loadscreens went live.

Hippie4927 · October 2018

The sprint bug doesn't just happen in PVP. For me, it happens anywhere that I use puncturing sweeps. And it doesn't just happen if you are already using sprint. I am not sprinting. I am standing still doing the pokey, pokey and all of a sudden I am in sprint and can't use any skills or do anything. This doesn't happen every time that I use puncturing sweeps but it happens often.

The_Camper · October 2018

Thogard wrote: »

It’s the same mechanism as the block bug, which does for block what sprint bug does for sprint. Block bug is far easier to recreate.. long story short, for one reason or another your client is failing to send a message to the server that you are no longer holding down the “block” or “sprint” toggle.

The block bug should be easier for them to isolate, fixing one will fix the other.

The cause was the patch that “moved a few passives from server to client to improve performance in cyrodil”

Thank you for putting this in a video. Hopefully someone from the "we have removed this comment because it could hurt someones feelings" team will see this and inform relevant departments to take a look at this. Sprint bug + Block bug + resource drain bug happens so often to the point that solo cyrodil players have no chance of surviving a battle. or sustain for 20 seconds for that matter.

Nermy · October 2018

It always affects me in huge battles where I rarely use sprint anyway. I just hope they get it sorted asap.

Eclipse0990 · October 2018

Just include pressing shift twice periodically in your rotation. I believe this issue will take a long time to get properly fixed.

Nermy · October 2018

Eclipse0990 wrote: »

Just include pressing shift twice periodically in your rotation. I believe this issue will take a long time to get properly fixed.

Weirdly it pretty much has...

montiferus · October 2018

Pretty absurd this issue still isn't fixed. Absolutely kills the PVP experience.