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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

The kill 20 Players should be repeatable: Support Needed

  • ShadowViper
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    Saute wrote: »
    I see a very vocal group of people who seem to be angry that they couldn't power level their way to 50 in a couple days from this quest since Zenimax changed it.

    Have you even played PVP in this game or just came here for flaming? Even with that "broken" quest PVP lvling was miles behind PVE.
    My friend and I got to lvl10 at the same time. He was PVEing and I went straight to PVP, quickly found that bounty quest and obviously I used it for having any chance at proper lvling speed. My friend was lvl16 by the time I got to lvl12. Does that sound fair to you?

    Seriously read the actual complaints before you complain about complainers.
    There are 3 major complain about this change:
    1. PVP lvling is a joke now, even with the broken quest it was noticabely slower than PVE
    2. Emperor race is now set in stone, because new players have no chance to catch up
    3. From now on you can't get enough AP to cover the siege weapon or forward camp expenses.

    Fix? Reset leaderboard, buff XP gain in PVP significantly, lower siege weapon, forward camp and keep/weapon fixing prices.

    You sir, have hit the nail on the head. We are putting forward ideas on how it could be / should be fixed, but people see it as a complaint. Though they put no constructive effort in to it to come up with a way to make it better.

    The 3 major complaints are spot on - though people seem to be bypassing that part of this thread.

    All of the things that are in your post and others are legitimate concerns that should be addressed. If no one voices out about it - they won't be heard nor dealt with.

    So for those of us making our gripes and complaints heard, thank you. Maybe ZOS will hear us and listen to our thoughts. To those who are coming in and trying to start a flame war to have this thread locked, you're not helping here. So you really shouldn't even be posting in this thread.

    It always seems to look like MMO companies listen to the "whining" and complaining of its PvE players before they ever listen to those who enjoy PvP. It really is kind of sad...
    Edited by ShadowViper on 5 April 2014 10:20
  • Hessen
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    You can thank an MMO that shall not be named but has pandas as a race in it for that.

    I don't think it's WoW's fault - although it contributed. It's just a general gamer attitude, carries across from and into FPS games, RTS games, MOBAs etc. winning and getting points is the focus over having fun, using tactics and communciation.
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    I would be more than happy to less a slight decrease in XP / AP if the quest was restored to repeatable.

    That was a huge incentive to even bother going there (other than skyshards) because I could level up while taking a break from PvE, I had a blast in Beta PvPing, but this decision to make it a useless daily was just silly.
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  • Honn
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    You don't need to worry about the people at the top, because every 90 days the Cyrodil war is reset.
    They did what they had to do & it was a good solution.

    Making it 100 kills will put off a lot of people new to PVP.
    Putting it back to how it was will just put everything back to square one, which was a problem (obviously).
    Decreasing XP will defeat the purpose of people doing the quest to begin with and ins a non-argument. And will also punish those actually taking part in the sieges & not just using a quest issue to level.

    They have solved the issue IMO.
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    Honn wrote: »
    You don't need to worry about the people at the top, because every 90 days the Cyrodil war is reset.
    They did what they had to do & it was a good solution.

    Making it 100 kills will put off a lot of people new to PVP.
    Putting it back to how it was will just put everything back to square one, which was a problem (obviously).
    Decreasing XP will defeat the purpose of people doing the quest to begin with and ins a non-argument. And will also punish those actually taking part in the sieges & not just using a quest issue to level.

    They have solved the issue IMO.

    XP is already decreased by making it into a daily because a few people cried and played the "exploit" card haha. It's a very bad start to see kneejerk reactions such as this already happening.
    Edited by Zershar_Vemod on 5 April 2014 23:19
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