No. This is to stop people from abusing the quest to harvest 20k AP every 1/2 an hour. Players could afk in an alliance, get their 20 kills, suicide to turn in, then teleport back to camp.

That is just not legit.

This quest should be a quest you can turn in at anytime with scaling rewards, whether you turn in after 5 kills or 500 its a bounty reward it as such make it repeatable but scaling, as far as afkers, moderate your groups people, remove them pretty simple solution....

Thrillaa wrote: »

Idk about AFK'ers ,i aint with that, But a 40 kill repeatable just makes sence for pvp

No. A repeatable kill 40 quest will have the exact same problem as a repeatable kill 20 quest, it will just take slightly longer to exploit.

RoyalPain wrote: »

This quest should be a quest you can turn in at anytime with scaling rewards, whether you turn in after 5 kills or 500 its a bounty reward it as such make it repeatable but scaling, as far as afkers, moderate your groups people, remove them pretty simple solution....

This is actually the best idea for it I've heard. Although it was done to stop the ridiculous AP gain you were getting from it, so the rewards need to be toned down if it goes back to not being a daily.

Bottom line is this quest needs to be repeatable.

If this change is going to be made, the campaigns should be reset on 4/4 or the change implemented after the current campaign ends.

Not only does it give no hope to anyone seeking to reach Emperor that switched campaigns because one was overflowing with your Alliance. This is the biggest problem I see, as anyone attempting to catch up now has almost no hope, unless the top people all stop playing. some are 250-300k Alliance Points and it'd be impossible to reach, let allow pass that with this being a daily quest. It's just extremely unwise to change something so impactful to the game once it's in use for multiple days. This quest wasn't a bug, it was working as intended for the beta weekends, PTS and Live, a sudden change is unwarranted and unwise.

It also restricts the resources to repair, provide siege equipment and buy new equipment from the vendors. I have no want to buy siege equipment or help repair as the rewards for doing so are so minor to the cost, when I could upgrade equipment.

Unfortunately, any tweaking to it will upset someone in community that didn't get to use it like everyone else has. It's caused afk'ers and suiciders, but at least they come back. Making it 40 or even 1000 wouldn't make no difference, cause the rewards would still scale and people would just suicide less often. It's bad enough they took /stuck out of Cyrodiil where I've been legitimately stuck twice already, thank goodness you can teleport to another campaign then back to yours as a workaround.

I've been a huge advocate for TESO and got all my friends to play, and even with this seeming not so groundbreaking to the game, it's the wrong time to do the change.

And of course, though it's minor impact, I'm strongly considering canceling my Imperial Edition, especially one that is so gamebreaking to me. A game I've been waiting so long for since announcement, especially being a player of DAoC and WAR for many years.

Just say no to dailies - horrid idea
- if we have to have dailies leave them in PvE where I understand some folks enjoy them

Making it repeatable is daft it just means exploits all the way. Stop being overdramatic their is plenty of reason to keep playing. To win your campaign for a start to have fun. You still get points anyway for a different number of things.

Yes... IDK why we don't just get EXP in the first place in PvP. Just give me EXP for killing players already!

You already get EXP for kills. But you get much more exp and AP for solo kills (or if you did the majority of the damage) and only a fraction if you hardly did anything.

This is already ingame and always have been. If you have a mod which shows you the gain, you could see it.

Absolutely not.

They did the right thing in making this a daily. Having this repeatable totally screwed every player who doesn't like zerging.

At least this way it balanced out the AP gain. Your play style shouldn't be more important than anyone elses.

cwells74ub17_ESO wrote: »

I would suggest getting rid of all quests in PvP. Get your rewards from killing and capturing objectives.

Leave the quests for the PvE crowd.

Enough said.

Or if quests must exist because OMG MMORPG's MUST HAVE QUESTS NERF NERF...you could try to make the quests better and meaningful but that would require a predictive AI to make it possible.

- reality is a few people exploited this heavily and so it HAD to be changed. There is no way it could remain as it was.
- From unlimited to daily however seems like a kneejerk reaction. Understandable though as 17.5 hours to get to max level has received a lot of bad press. The game hasn't even 'launched' yet.
- There are alternative middle grounds:
- Limit number of turn-ins per hour/day to bring ~pve levelling pace
- diminishing returns/escalating requirements. decrease the rewards per hand in, eventually down to a pittance per attempt... or make the criteria for completion increase exponentially each time you take the quest per day. 20/40/80/160.

I say make it 100 Player Kills - then turn in - then repeatable. 20 kills was too low - but a reward based on 20 a day - is just not enough to handle buying siege and repair equipment.

Solution:
Make the quest to kill 100 enemy players.
Make the reward the same is it currently is for 20 players.
Make it repeatable twice per hour.

all thees arguments that without the quest no one has any hope to catch up if they switch campaigns is not a good logic imo, as even if you stay on the same campaign you can never catch the people who have exploited this. The people getting emperor shouldn't be the ones who just did one quest all day long over and over, it should be the people stepping up leading groups, organizing the battlefield, running scouting missions.. not someone who can spam a single quest.

Its ridiculous when the names getting tagged as emperor no one has ever heard their voice on the war front until they say "oh yay me..." This quest does not help us as a community if it is returned it only helps a select type of player.

If you want xp, lobby for XP ideas, if it's APs then give ideas for that, not "please give us our easymode spam quest back".

And no it is not on group leader to police the exploiters of the quest, they have real jobs to do not babysit short cutters. This quest as it was, was an exploit and ridiculous risk v rewards, not balanced and damaging the AP system. I'd like to see more xp in PvP, not enough that PvErs flood our campaigns to get easy xp though and make 4 hour queues, but AP should be earned from actively trying to conquer the map... not spam questing.