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Psijic Order Skill called "Undo"

  • Abysswarrior45
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Oh, no! A measly 4 seconds.

    Imagine you were about to die and you used it preventing your death and giving you back vital resources. Or you used an ability that cost tremendous amounts of resources and used it to get them back to do it again.

    Imagine trying to kill some of the already tanky players/zergs who can use that skill as a reset to full resources and hp. Looks stupid and OP.

    They are so tanky you almost kill them in 4 seconds?

    Can you read?
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    ZOS pay all the effort to develop something new, but some players start to complain even the content is not yet come out ;)

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  • Yamenstein
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Oh, no! A measly 4 seconds.

    Imagine you were about to die and you used it preventing your death and giving you back vital resources. Or you used an ability that cost tremendous amounts of resources and used it to get them back to do it again.

    Imagine trying to kill some of the already tanky players/zergs who can use that skill as a reset to full resources and hp. Looks stupid and OP.

    Or if they miss time it and it causes them to get back to a point they had the same or less resources. Awkward.
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  • Tasear
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    Undo isn't most interesting of the 3.
    Seraphayel wrote: »
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    Depends... what if has a support morph for allies. This could be interesting.
  • DemonDruaga
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    Ooops,nothing to see here
    Edited by DemonDruaga on 22 March 2018 09:11
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    Tasear wrote: »
    Undo isn't most interesting of the 3.
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Mhm not so great. I really can't think of any situation we're the OP Ultimates that 99% of the playerbase use at the moment will be replaced by Undo - not even in PvP.

    Depends... what if has a support morph for allies. This could be interesting.

    How could that work? Undo sounds like a skill just for yourself. But we will see.
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  • Maura_Neysa
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    Actually I expect this to be a relatively useless trait. Dark Deal isn't a amazing skill, and Dark Shade isn't an amazing skill. They both have there uses, but each are easy to counter. Really if this skill is interruptible like Dark Deal, no one will run it. Even if it isn't, so you teleport and your health goes up to 4 seconds ago, and your mag goes down to 4 seconds ago. Is there a penalty like Balance?
    Of the 3 listed, I expect that one to be the least likely to make it into any kind of meta set up.
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  • jaschacasadiob16_ESO
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    I wonder what the cost of Undo will be and if at some point you could make it recursive xD
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno any eta when Summerset will be on PTS?

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    olsborg wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any eta when Summerset will be on PTS?

    Release date is May 5 for PC, and PTS takes roughly 4 weeks. I’d say first week of April.
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  • SugaComa
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    Sounds very stronk. Could be used as an anti gank ability. Could also be used as any setup to buy time or get back from a critical mistake. I like it. But without a cooldown, how will they balance it?

    Balance is easy ... If you've depleted you magic you ain't gonna be able to use the skill so you dead anyway
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    As usual, you're debating things you can know nothing about, save what you heard on a twitch stream.
    Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...

    Earn it.

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  • Chilly-McFreeze
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    Feanor wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any eta when Summerset will be on PTS?

    Release date is May 5 for PC, and PTS takes roughly 4 weeks. I’d say first week of April.

    Not quite. From the eso website:

    We are thrilled to announce that the newest Elder Scrolls Online Chapter, The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset, will be released for PC/Mac on May 21 and Xbox One and PlayStation®4 on June 5. Experience the beautiful Isle of Summerset for the first time since The Elder Scrolls: Arena and explore the home of the High Elves.
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    olsborg wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any eta when Summerset will be on PTS?

    In April.
    Quote: "Right now we are targeting Aprilish"
    Watch the twitch video, it is in minute: 28:05
    Feanor wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any eta when Summerset will be on PTS?

    Release date is May 5 for PC, and PTS takes roughly 4 weeks. I’d say first week of April.

    Release date is June 5th.
    Early access is May 21st.
    Watch the twitch video, it is in minute: 27:49
    Edited by Universe on 22 March 2018 11:15
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  • Feanor
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    Feanor wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno any eta when Summerset will be on PTS?

    Release date is May 5 for PC, and PTS takes roughly 4 weeks. I’d say first week of April.

    Not quite. From the eso website:

    We are thrilled to announce that the newest Elder Scrolls Online Chapter, The Elder Scrolls Online: Summerset, will be released for PC/Mac on May 21 and Xbox One and PlayStation®4 on June 5. Experience the beautiful Isle of Summerset for the first time since The Elder Scrolls: Arena and explore the home of the High Elves.

    Thanks for the correction. I mixed the dates up a bit. :)
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  • Junipus
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    Sounds like the ultimate is the equivalent of an Argonian DK drinking a pot, unless it also teleports you back to where you were. Then it might be a bit OP.

    Will be interesting to see however as unless the ultimate is 250 cost then it'd be easy to build unkillable tanks in PvP with such skills.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Junipus wrote: »
    Sounds like the ultimate is the equivalent of an Argonian DK drinking a pot, unless it also teleports you back to where you were. Then it might be a bit OP.

    Will be interesting to see however as unless the ultimate is 250 cost then it'd be easy to build unkillable tanks in PvP with such skills.

    I think Gina said it brings you back to your previous location as well.
    Edited by Seraphayel on 22 March 2018 12:34
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  • Maura_Neysa
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    Junipus wrote: »
    Sounds like the ultimate is the equivalent of an Argonian DK drinking a pot, unless it also teleports you back to where you were. Then it might be a bit OP.

    Will be interesting to see however as unless the ultimate is 250 cost then it'd be easy to build unkillable tanks in PvP with such skills.

    I do not believe that is the Ulti, just a skill. I also expect that skill to work both ways, so if you had less of something 4 seconds ago, you will go back to the lower value.
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  • James-Wayne
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    Awesome :smiley:
    Edited by James-Wayne on 22 March 2018 12:49
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  • Apherius
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    Lol ... what an ammount of Cheats you can do with that " Undo " ultimate.

    Jump from your base and take the Chaos ball in less that 4 sec then use the Ultimate ( you just need an ally to die with the chaos ball near your spawn point )


  • profundidob16_ESO
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    More hyped about Meditation and it possible morphs.

    spoil.jpg

    me too, it would be awesome if this skill would simply force you out of combat until the next hit on you or by you. That way you could use it not only to regen fast but also to open chests while the rushing dps refuses to stop for a chest and rushes through the whole dungeon
  • Coatmagic
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    Hah! Just skimmed this thread and um, yeah, any buying for just this are going to be a sad pandas because there is no way in hell they are going to be able to implement it in a way that cannot be abused xD

    And if it actually does make it into the game, IMAGINE the LAAAG!
    Bwahahhaha! People already have issues in trials and forget about Cyro...

    ZoS really need to put in a way for players TO TURN EFFECTS OFF for LARGE GROUP BATTLES
    (like every other mmo *sigh* /beats dead horse).

    Me, I just pick flowers so don't really give a flying skeevers backside, but I do feel for those that have difficulties because I can remember how it was in raids. If we couldn't turn off effects we couldn't do bugall xD
    Edited by Coatmagic on 22 March 2018 13:26
  • Kodrac
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Kodrac wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    You can see three of the skills here:

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/updates/chapter/summerset

    TIME STOP

    Freeze the passage of time at a specific location. Should you catch your enemies within this ability, they'll be slowed and eventually frozen in place, giving you the opportunity to make your move!

    MEDITATE

    Focus your mind and body into a deep meditative state. While active, you will restore Health, Stamina, and Magicka over time. Perfect for those who want to reflect upon and recover from a tough fight.

    UNDO

    Become a true master of time and step backwards into the past to instantly reset your Health, Magicka, and Stamina to what they were only four seconds ago. If the battle isn't going your way, reset the board!

    It's a heal. Quit crying people.

    It's a heal that also regenerates all lost stamina and magicka. In addition it teleports you back to wherever you were four seconds ago. That's not just a heal. A skilled player could easily make very good use of Undo.

    Nowhere in that description do I see the word teleport.
  • profundidob16_ESO
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    Knowledge wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    According to the twitch stream the ability known as Undo rewinds time back four seconds. This is specific only to players that own Summerset Isles Chapter/Expansion. As stated on the twitch stream you will rewind four seconds and reappear wherever you were four seconds ago and also get your used stamina and magicka BACK.

    This is an incredibly strong skill and it is available to anyone who buys this chapter.

    Probably it will be the ultimate.

    Yes, can confirm Undo is the Ultimate for the Psijic Order skill line.

    Can you tell us how much Ultimate it costs?

    The cost hasn't been finalized yet. Additionally, the name may change as well, but the functionality of the Ultimate should stay the same. It's pretty cool to use!

    If it's too strong the devs should add 1 or 2 seconds activation countdown timer to it before it activates instead of an actual cast time. That way the skill could still be used to cheat death in specific scenario's.

    imagine being in a trial on a tough boss. *SNAP* the main tank dies, the boss turns and comes for you but right before he 1-shots you you press UNDO, the countdown timer starts and when it activates your screen goes blurry é voila...you're back alive and well just before the touch of death.
  • Coatmagic
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    imagine being in a trial on a tough boss. *SNAP* the main tank dies, the boss turns and comes for you but right before he 1-shots you you press UNDO, the countdown timer starts and when it activates your screen goes blurry é voila...you're back alive and well just before the touch of death.

    What I imagine are a lot of people getting stuck in death loops trying to do this xD
  • Seraphayel
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    Kodrac wrote: »
    Knowledge wrote: »
    Kodrac wrote: »
    Seraphayel wrote: »
    You can see three of the skills here:

    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/updates/chapter/summerset

    TIME STOP

    Freeze the passage of time at a specific location. Should you catch your enemies within this ability, they'll be slowed and eventually frozen in place, giving you the opportunity to make your move!

    MEDITATE

    Focus your mind and body into a deep meditative state. While active, you will restore Health, Stamina, and Magicka over time. Perfect for those who want to reflect upon and recover from a tough fight.

    UNDO

    Become a true master of time and step backwards into the past to instantly reset your Health, Magicka, and Stamina to what they were only four seconds ago. If the battle isn't going your way, reset the board!

    It's a heal. Quit crying people.

    It's a heal that also regenerates all lost stamina and magicka. In addition it teleports you back to wherever you were four seconds ago. That's not just a heal. A skilled player could easily make very good use of Undo.

    Nowhere in that description do I see the word teleport.

    It still does affect your position:
    Chufu wrote: »
    I want to use it in Maw of Lork'haj: Get the wrong color, UNDO, kill my group!

    Yeah, that sounds fun!!

    Haha! Luckily it doesn't affect debuffs, just health/magicka/stamina and your position. ;)
    Edited by Seraphayel on 22 March 2018 13:51
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  • Jura23
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    Honestly, after I read the description of this sklil, I started downloading another game. Just in case the fights will be as broken as I expect.
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  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    if so far people where complaining about nightblades being 2 OP only due to their inability to properly counter and flawed personal gameplay...I assume they will see us as The Demigods of Nirn also it seems ZoS got tired of everyone saying nbs 2 op so they made sure to make us live up to our names?...lets hope they wont "UNDO" those changes :3
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    This better not be usable in PVP.

    Some players are already very laggy.
  • Knowledge
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    This better not be usable in PVP.

    Some players are already very laggy.

    Of course it is. 10% HP! UNDOOOOO
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