no punishment for outposts flipping

  • Hexys
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    Will more people get banned or was there only 1 wave.

    That was it for today, but we're watching.

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  • bubbygink
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    Beesting wrote: »
    All it would have taken to stop it was to take down the server on monday back in the beginning of march, do a hotfix to reduce the ap gain on taking outposts and that would have been it. Everyone would have gotten the message and would have gone back to normal pvp

    To do action like this now, makes all time spent on this game seem like a waste of time tbh

    Or you could have just not cheated...

    I have absolutely zero sympathy.
  • Wollust
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    You should have done this on 1. April.

    That would have been hilarious.
    Susano'o

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  • technohic
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    Beesting wrote: »
    All it would have taken to stop it was to take down the server on monday back in the beginning of march, do a hotfix to reduce the ap gain on taking outposts and that would have been it. Everyone would have gotten the message and would have gone back to normal

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom i honestly believed zos upped the amount of ap because of the stress test week that was going on and did not care about the ap gains of individual players.
    As the aim of the week seemed to be the stress test and it worked because players were mass gathering on bleakers/nikel and fighting for hours on end. Their was a hour long queue on the campain, that is how many people on eu participated.

    It was confusing to say the least that the stresstest was done , and allowing the flipping without a hotfix made it look like it was on purpose to draw players into the action.

    To do action like this now, makes all time spent on this game seem like a waste of time tbh

    Yeah; I mean that totally would have been fair. Take the server down to babysit people and save them from being punished by cutting into the playing time of the vast majority of players that knew it was wrong and just didn't partake.
  • Skulfur
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    Nice to see ZoS looked closer into this one, really didn't think anything would happen anymore.
    Edited by Skulfur on 3 April 2017 19:52
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  • stevesherpa
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    Hi everyone,

    We just completed a mass action on a few hundred accounts that were involved in regular coordinated cross-alliance AP farming. Specifically, swapping resources and keeps to farm high amounts of AP in a short period of time. Not only does this behavior harm our PvP gameplay and community, but it is also a Terms of Service violation. Accounts found taking part in cross-alliance AP farming may be subject to disciplinary actions.

    Here’s the break-down of the accounts we took action on and where they were:
    • PC/Mac – Europe: 170 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – Europe: 42 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – North America: 39 accounts
    • Xbox One – Europe: 50 accounts
    • Xbox One – North America: 61 accounts
    Those involved have received a three-day suspension at minimum and removal of all AP from their accounts. If you were involved, you have received an email with an official warning.

    Thank you to everyone who reported this exploit. Please help us keep ESO’s PvP content fun, competitive, and fair for all.

    Blues and reds, usually.
  • skvll
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    Wollust wrote: »
    You should have done this on 1. April.

    That would have been hilarious.

    :D

    sooooo at the end, we will still have GO or high rank who doesn't know in how to play or.... their rank has been adjusted?
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  • Meneltor
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    Well done to the developers! We need more bans, and some without the ban go)
  • Beesting
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    @AbraXuSeXile get rekt yourself you noob ap botter

    the fact that people like you were blatently using macro's to avoid disconnecting is just beyond words. I have many screenshots of people afk-ing for hours, as i was actually awake and playing

    Not that you care of course, you are untouchable
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  • Sandman929
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    ZOS, today you are awesome!

    *my opinion today in no way influences my opinion tomorrow.
  • Iyas
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    skvll wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    You should have done this on 1. April.

    That would have been hilarious.

    :D

    sooooo at the end, we will still have GO or high rank who doesn't know in how to play or.... their rank has been adjusted?

    They still have Rank + achievements + title

    A pity I didnt exploit to high Rank :-(
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  • LiquidSchwartz
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    Hi everyone,

    We just completed a mass action on a few hundred accounts that were involved in regular coordinated cross-alliance AP farming. Specifically, swapping resources and keeps to farm high amounts of AP in a short period of time. Not only does this behavior harm our PvP gameplay and community, but it is also a Terms of Service violation. Accounts found taking part in cross-alliance AP farming may be subject to disciplinary actions.

    Here’s the break-down of the accounts we took action on and where they were:
    • PC/Mac – Europe: 170 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – Europe: 42 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – North America: 39 accounts
    • Xbox One – Europe: 50 accounts
    • Xbox One – North America: 61 accounts
    Those involved have received a three-day suspension at minimum and removal of all AP from their accounts. If you were involved, you have received an email with an official warning.

    Thank you to everyone who reported this exploit. Please help us keep ESO’s PvP content fun, competitive, and fair for all.

    Only 61 on Xbox NA? I can give you over 200 names easily.. why not more?
    May the Schwartz be with you.
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  • Skulfur
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    Wollust wrote: »
    You should have done this on 1. April.

    That would have been hilarious.
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    Why are you so angry? You dont spend nearly enough time in PVP to be so angry man :#
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  • Wollust
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    Beesting wrote: »
    @AbraXuSeXile get rekt yourself you noob ap botter

    the fact that people like you were blatently using macro's to avoid disconnecting is just beyond words. I have many screenshots of people afk-ing for hours, as i was actually awake and playing

    Not that you care of course, you are untouchable

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    Susano'o

    Zerg Squad
  • Br1ckst0n
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    Meneltor wrote: »
    Well done to the developers! We need more bans, and some without the ban go)

    Didnt you get emp on yellow because blues and reds were flipping?
    Offtank of the year 2016
  • Glory
    Glory
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    Iyas wrote: »
    As youre hanging out here atm. Are you considering to reset the ranks of the offenders? I mean that was the only reason to exploit this

    As this is the first time we've publicly taken mass action on accounts for this behavior, we've kept it to a three-day suspensions and removal of all AP from the top offenders.
    Beesting wrote: »
    @AbraXuSeXile get rekt yourself you noob ap botter

    the fact that people like you were blatently using macro's to avoid disconnecting is just beyond words. I have many screenshots of people afk-ing for hours, as i was actually awake and playing

    Not that you care of course, you are untouchable

    Somebody is grumpy they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar :D:D:D
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  • SolidusPrime
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    Guys, just because they didn't lose their ranks and things they bought doesn't mean that "nothing happened". Yes, it would have been nice, but I guarantee people won't be so quick to exploit the next time an opportunity arises. Plus, these people now have an extra ToS violation on their account - some were banned, and others are one step closer to it.

    Either way it's a step in the right direction :)
  • Wollust
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    Skulfur wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    You should have done this on 1. April.

    That would have been hilarious.
    9KCIeJi.gif
    Why are you so angry? You dont spend nearly enough time in PVP to be so angry man :#

    I am amused, not angry. Just looking for entertainment. :trollface:
    Edited by Wollust on 3 April 2017 20:04
    Susano'o

    Zerg Squad
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    relaxed83 wrote: »
    Iyas wrote: »
    As youre hanging out here atm. Are you considering to reset the ranks of the offenders? I mean that was the only reason to exploit this

    As this is the first time we've publicly taken mass action on accounts for this behavior, we've kept it to a three-day suspensions and removal of all AP from the top offenders.

    Will they also loose their titles? Seems like somethign they should loose as well since it was gained against ToS...They should all by Tyros again.

    The ideal solution: titles permanently locked to Tyro!

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  • Yuke
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    So, where is the guy who threatened ZOS with a lawsuit? B)
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Hi everyone,

    We just completed a mass action on a few hundred accounts that were involved in regular coordinated cross-alliance AP farming. Specifically, swapping resources and keeps to farm high amounts of AP in a short period of time. Not only does this behavior harm our PvP gameplay and community, but it is also a Terms of Service violation. Accounts found taking part in cross-alliance AP farming may be subject to disciplinary actions.

    Here’s the break-down of the accounts we took action on and where they were:
    • PC/Mac – Europe: 170 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – Europe: 42 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – North America: 39 accounts
    • Xbox One – Europe: 50 accounts
    • Xbox One – North America: 61 accounts
    Those involved have received a three-day suspension at minimum and removal of all AP from their accounts. If you were involved, you have received an email with an official warning.

    Thank you to everyone who reported this exploit. Please help us keep ESO’s PvP content fun, competitive, and fair for all.

    PC NA be like ...

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  • Chair
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    100% Not Miruku I swear
    Stamblade Rank 50 (No AP flipping involved)
    DK Rank 35( Retired)
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  • texassob
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    lol this is great
  • Baobab_Theoldtree
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    Thank you ZOS <3

    R.I.P RP :p
  • skvll
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    Guys, just because they didn't lose their ranks and things they bought doesn't mean that "nothing happened". Yes, it would have been nice, but I guarantee people won't be so quick to exploit the next time an opportunity arises. Plus, these people now have an extra ToS violation on their account - some were banned, and others are one step closer to it.

    Either way it's a step in the right direction :)

    i can understand but.. there are people here (not me) who plaied a lot for their ranks, a PvP ranks give u a title (maybe someone is proud of his pvp rank), new Dyes (yes, i like dye my armor u.u), they can buy stuff for their house... well, i can understand for a lot of people these things are useless... but maybe someone else likes that.
    Edited by skvll on 3 April 2017 20:07
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  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Beesting wrote: »
    @AbraXuSeXile get rekt yourself you noob ap botter

    the fact that people like you were blatently using macro's to avoid disconnecting is just beyond words. I have many screenshots of people afk-ing for hours, as i was actually awake and playing

    Not that you care of course, you are untouchable

    Hahahahahaha

    I dunno what's more sad, how salty you are from taking a ban or the fact you stayed up all night taking pretty pictures of people in bed.

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    Grand Overlord Rank 50 [First EU]
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  • Kr3do
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    Looking at our data over the 13 days has some information you all may find interesting.

    No outposts, keeps, districts, towns or resources since the Black Boot mine change are actually giving players 200k AP per hour. The highest AP earning rate per hour is 120,000-140,000 AP by 2 people, that was done for 1 afternoon, and hasn't been done again since the 9th.

    The next highest AP earned per hour is 60-90k which was done by 9 players doing a mixture of keep captures, keep defenses, repairs, killing blows, and assists yielding higher than normal gains. We're digging into more details of those gains and dates.

    26% of the PC population is earning between 20-60k per hour which doesn't raise any red flags, since we saw those amounts of gains prior to the Homestead patch. That being said, we are also looking at those numbers to see if they warrant changes to AP gains from all sources in Campaigns.

    74% of the PC population is earning between 0-20k AP per hour, which is what qualifies as "normal play" AP gains.


    As noted in the initial PTS post about the AP change, we are closely monitoring player behavior both in game and with metrics like those you see here which will determine where we go with AP gains in the future.
    Hi everyone,

    We just completed a mass action on a few hundred accounts that were involved in regular coordinated cross-alliance AP farming. Specifically, swapping resources and keeps to farm high amounts of AP in a short period of time. Not only does this behavior harm our PvP gameplay and community, but it is also a Terms of Service violation. Accounts found taking part in cross-alliance AP farming may be subject to disciplinary actions.

    Here’s the break-down of the accounts we took action on and where they were:
    • PC/Mac – Europe: 170 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – Europe: 42 accounts
    • PlayStation 4 – North America: 39 accounts
    • Xbox One – Europe: 50 accounts
    • Xbox One – North America: 61 accounts
    Those involved have received a three-day suspension at minimum and removal of all AP from their accounts. If you were involved, you have received an email with an official warning.

    Thank you to everyone who reported this exploit. Please help us keep ESO’s PvP content fun, competitive, and fair for all.

    Im not the best at math, but i dont think those numbers really match up :^)
  • DaveMoeDee
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    The funny thing is that they have put into place AP blockers when killings players, but not farm or outposts. So why not just add a 5-10 min timer? Would work just fine then.

    Because it would lead people to not bother trying to reclaim an objective.
  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    Blobsky wrote: »
    Br1ckst0n wrote: »
    @Blobsky here you go buddy

    Heart Blob used flipping to finish off his grand overlord title.

    My entire time at bleakers was spent killing the flippers, organising multiple raids to stop the events and reporting players - feel free to actually check my livestream some time to see the previous broadcasts including these videos, I live stream 90% of my online playtime

    @texassob @Ron_Burgundy_79 Burgundy Celebration is in order, lets get the champagne

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  • Turelus
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    Beesting wrote: »
    @AbraXuSeXile get rekt yourself you noob ap botter

    the fact that people like you were blatently using macro's to avoid disconnecting is just beyond words. I have many screenshots of people afk-ing for hours, as i was actually awake and playing

    Not that you care of course, you are untouchable

    Hahahahahaha

    I dunno what's more sad, how salty you are from taking a ban or the fact you stayed up all night taking pretty pictures of people in bed.
    Hey I took pretty pictures too! I added roleplay stories to mine. :smiley:
    @Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
    "Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."
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