hack or this game is broken

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO · January 2017

i have an addon that tells me the seconds and the skills i do or i get, so i took 5 hits with 5 different skills in 1 sec. he told me "thats animation cancelling", thats probably true coz he didnt hit me 5 times in 1 sec with 1 or 2 skills but i tryed using more skills fast and i dont get that animation cancelling i have to wait till my skill animations finishes until i can switch weapon or use other skills. Why the game is not equal for everybody damn it

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Ffastyl · January 2017

There's actually only 3 skills in what you highlighted: Amsbush, Heavy Attack and Lethal Arrow. Viper's Sting and Velidreth are proc sets and therefore occur independent of ability cooldowns. This combo is one I am familiar with, having used a variation in the past; Lethal Arrow (base Snipe) has a long travel time as it arcs through the air, so long in fact, that at max extended range in Cyrodiil there is enough time to fully charge a Heavy Attack and fire an ability. The travel time on Snipe at max range makes it so that all three abilities land simultaneously. What likely happened here is this player used Snipe at max range, then charged and released a Heavy Attack but animation cancelled it with an Ambush. The Ambush hit first, granting Empower to the Heavy Attack (b/c travel time) and then the Snipe landed and both proc sets procced along with the weapon enchant, Befouled Weapon.

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO · January 2017

sounds like hes using a macro, the latency was terible tho

Berenhir · January 2017

Ffastyl wrote: »

There's actually only 3 skills in what you highlighted: Amsbush, Heavy Attack and Lethal Arrow. Viper's Sting and Velidreth are proc sets and therefore occur independent of ability cooldowns. This combo is one I am familiar with, having used a variation in the past; Lethal Arrow (base Snipe) has a long travel time as it arcs through the air, so long in fact, that at max extended range in Cyrodiil there is enough time to fully charge a Heavy Attack and fire an ability. The travel time on Snipe at max range makes it so that all three abilities land simultaneously. What likely happened here is this player used Snipe at max range, then charged and released a Heavy Attack but animation cancelled it with an Ambush. The Ambush hit first, granting Empower to the Heavy Attack (b/c travel time) and then the Snipe landed and both proc sets procced along with the weapon enchant, Befouled Weapon.

QFT.

OP, you got ganked. Welcome to Cyrodiil.

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO · January 2017

reminded me why i quit the game so many times

ive been in cyrodill way more than u btw

Toast_STS · January 2017

One guy hit you with ambush and heavy attack + 2 proc sets. A different guy was sniping you.

Kutsuu · January 2017

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO wrote: »

sounds like hes using a macro, the latency was terible tho

Has nothing to do with macros. First, pay attention to the fact that the Lethal Arrow came from a different player.

So the player you're complaining about hit you with a heavy attack and an ambush at the same time. This is simple mechanics - Bow heavy attacks have a travel time. If you release a bow heavy attack then immediately use Ambush (or crit rush or invasion), both attacks will hit at the same time. Viper has a 100% chance to proc on a melee attack every 4s. Velidreth has a 20% chance to proc on any attack. Befouled weapon is a weapon enchant that has a 100% chance to proc every (5s?).

What you're looking at is how the combat system works in this game. If you hadn't died from that damage, he would have hit you with a surprise attack or incap strike roughly 500 ms (1/2 second) after the ambush landed.

toxikh.earth89neb18_ESO · January 2017

looks like its safe to have a macro https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/203094/there-are-definately-macro-users/p1

Kutsuu · January 2017

Macros do not do anything that you fingers are not capable of doing. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Macro programs literally send keystrokes to the game, meaning you can send those same keystrokes with your fingers.

So again, the attacks you were hit with have nothing to do with macros.

This video for example, I do not use macros and I am doing the same thing to these players that the dude in your screenshot did to you, minus the proc sets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyyMGkC0pIY

Waffennacht · January 2017

It's nice to see some old school complaints making a come back

Kutsuu · January 2017

Waffennacht wrote: »

It's nice to see some old school complaints making a come back

I see this stuff constantly in TF zone chat. People with names similar to Smellton claiming that anyone and everyone is "macro hacking."

It really is amazing that this kind of fallacy continues to make the rounds.

SirAndy · January 2017

Kutsuu wrote: »

It really is amazing that this kind of fallacy continues to make the rounds.

There's probably a macro for that ...

Sigtric · January 2017

@Kutsuu

Off topic little but I've been on the not fun side of your bow a few times and I must say I'm a fan of your work. Inspiring to my newbie gankblade.

Kutsuu · January 2017

Sigtric wrote: »

@Kutsuu

Off topic little but I've been on the not fun side of your bow a few times and I must say I'm a fan of your work. Inspiring to my newbie gankblade.

Heh my ganker is one of the more tame ones because I try to retain some brawling ability with impen and more health, but it does get the job done.

melloni_aleb16_ESO · January 2017

Kutsuu wrote: »

Macros do not do anything that you fingers are not capable of doing. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Macro programs literally send keystrokes to the game, meaning you can send those same keystrokes with your fingers.

So again, the attacks you were hit with have nothing to do with macros.

This video for example, I do not use macros and I am doing the same thing to these players that the dude in your screenshot did to you, minus the proc sets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyyMGkC0pIY

...

your gameplay is funny, complex and never boring ...

facepalm