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Running VMSA for someone else
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Agalloch✭✭✭✭✭Many people are gaining real money from running vMSA for others. This is like a job .
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.
But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.
So yeh, it's a violation.
Do people care? Not really.
As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.
Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question
Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.
It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character
You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.
@Rune_Relic
I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.
The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.
Ok. So I will just setup 50 accounts and have them all controlled by 1 bot via sharing.
I think you are missing the point.
Its not just about account details.
Its about exploitation and abuse of the game system.
Its akin to buying premade levelled accounts by someone else for gold.
@Rune_Relic
Honest question based on your reply. Do you understand how the pa share feature works?
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Rune_Relic✭✭✭✭✭
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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/163424/ps4-game-sharing-and-esoNewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.
But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.
So yeh, it's a violation.
Do people care? Not really.
As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.
Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question
Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.
It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character
You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.
@Rune_Relic
I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.
The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.
Ok. So I will just setup 50 accounts and have them all controlled by 1 bot via sharing.
I think you are missing the point.
Its not just about account details.
Its about exploitation and abuse of the game system.
Its akin to buying premade levelled accounts by someone else for gold.
@Rune_Relic
Honest question based on your reply. Do you understand how the pa share feature works?Anything that can be exploited will be exploited0 -
Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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Wait fr?Umm interesting .frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »Many people are gaining real money from running vMSA for others. This is like a job .0 -
Agalloch✭✭✭✭✭
Wait fr?Umm interesting .frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »Many people are gaining real money from running vMSA for others. This is like a job .
Jut google a bit and you'll see ...0 -
boldscot✭✭✭Rune_Relic wrote: »
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/163424/ps4-game-sharing-and-esoNewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.
But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.
So yeh, it's a violation.
Do people care? Not really.
As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.
Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question
Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.
It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character
You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.
@Rune_Relic
I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.
The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.
Ok. So I will just setup 50 accounts and have them all controlled by 1 bot via sharing.
I think you are missing the point.
Its not just about account details.
Its about exploitation and abuse of the game system.
Its akin to buying premade levelled accounts by someone else for gold.
@Rune_Relic
Honest question based on your reply. Do you understand how the pa share feature works?
Shareplay != game sharing.0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PS4 share is akin to using Remote Desktop to play a game on another's PC just like if that person was sitting next to you at your PC. Best as I can explain it to a PC person.0 -
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✭✭✭You CANNOT get banned from PS4 Share Play. ZOS would end up themselves in the hot seat from SONY If they broke THEIR rules.#VMATOKENSYSTEM #WEAPONDYE #TRAITCHANGE #CROWNCRATELOVER- Alliance/Platform: Aldemerii - PS4/NA - CP 800+
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rune_Relic wrote: »
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/163424/ps4-game-sharing-and-esoNewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.
But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.
So yeh, it's a violation.
Do people care? Not really.
As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.
Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question
Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.
It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character
You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.
@Rune_Relic
I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.
The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.
Ok. So I will just setup 50 accounts and have them all controlled by 1 bot via sharing.
I think you are missing the point.
Its not just about account details.
Its about exploitation and abuse of the game system.
Its akin to buying premade levelled accounts by someone else for gold.
@Rune_Relic
Honest question based on your reply. Do you understand how the pa share feature works?
@Rune_Relic
Thanks...No you don't understand.
Sharing a digital copy of a game and using PS Share are different. Both aren't sharing a ZOS account
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Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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Wow your right why haven't ZoS did something about this.Took me not even 5 minutes to find several sites with people selling VMA clears.frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »
Wait fr?Umm interesting .frateanu.luiseb17_ESO wrote: »Many people are gaining real money from running vMSA for others. This is like a job .
Jut google a bit and you'll see ...1 -
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alexkdd99✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »Rune_Relic wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »The PS4 things let's you play a ps4 account. It encourages it.
But ESO has a rule specific to the eso account. Only one person can play per eso account. The ps4 thing is completely irrelevant.
So yeh, it's a violation.
Do people care? Not really.
As proven over and over again....any developers terms do not and cannot superceed the consoles. Literally it's the other way around. ZOS has to comply with all the console features which is why it's not a violation because no one is sharing their account. Hey are using PS share which is the account holder allowing another person to remote access on the PSN and play while the account holder is in control.
Please don't confuse ppl it's not that they are doing anything wrong. It's just a good question
Simply stated it's not an account share.
It's a controller share...the account is still locked to the account holder and they are even on their account giving only character control.
It's not a violation to allow ps share to control your character
You cant both control your character at the same time.
Either you are moving it or the other person is.
@Rune_Relic
I can be in control of my account (understand on console the account you all refer to on PC isn't ZOS' account on PlayStation) while another person is in control of my character. If you don't understand it's where two consoles are online and two humans one on each console under their own respective PSN accounts where the PS4 allows on PSN a share feature that will allow the other person to control and see your screen on their screen using their console and controller.
The person sharing can stop or server the share at any point.
The most important thing to comprehend is that the account that ZOS is referring to is never shared.
Ok. So I will just setup 50 accounts and have them all controlled by 1 bot via sharing.
I think you are missing the point.
Its not just about account details.
Its about exploitation and abuse of the game system.
Its akin to buying premade levelled accounts by someone else for gold.
Lol that is a totally different thing. Where did bots get brought into this? That is a whole different issue itself.
You are missing the point also. Has nothing to do with exploitation or abuse.
And you are way off base comparing a feature of the console to buying a pre-made account.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Has nothing to do with exploitation or abuse.
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Yeah, OK then.
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SnubbS✭✭✭✭✭It would probably be one of the dumbest reasons to get yourself banned for. However, I don't think they do anything to the person who runs it. So if Player A ran vMA for Player B -- Player B's account would be subject to ban, not Player A's. Or at least that's the way I understand it.
I find it ridiculous that they allocate resources to this garbage, surely they could do something more productive than banning people.0