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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Nerieneth or Valkyn Skoria for pvp?

Ankael07
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I do pretty much every aspect of pvp from Imperial City to solo, small and big scale battles in Cyrodiil. Considering the buff that Valkyn will receive with update 12 which one of the sets would excel in what part of pvp?
Edited by Ankael07 on 29 September 2016 07:47
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  • Curragraigue
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Neri's 3s delay meant it was never very useful against humans in the first place.

    This^

    Only run Skoria if you are running a few DoTs.
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  • Bakven
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    If you're good with resources I say run kena for extra damage. Neiren'eth is almost useless in pvp because of the delay. Skoria is better but since the proc chance is low you need a bunch of dots to make it viable and hope to never fight a Templar that can purge
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  • Brrrofski
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    What class are you? Templar - skoria is good. Wouldn't bother with either on anything else to be honest.
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    They both work in siege situations and bridges. I'd say I got Skoria to work better with my skill set up, so I use that over Nerieneth. Skoria meteor follows targets but lich crystals stay where they proc. You can easily roll away from a lich crystal, but not the meteor. Both are less effective in the open field imo.

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  • Swainburg
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    What class are you? Templar - skoria is good. Wouldn't bother with either on anything else to be honest.

    Yeah, because its not like any other class had DoTs that can proc skoria or anything. DEFINITELY not mDks ;)
    Edited by Swainburg on 29 September 2016 17:44
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  • Waffennacht
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    I've always just pushed skoria to the side when dealing with PvP. This thread has rekindled my interest.

    About how many DoTs would be needed at a minimum?
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  • Solariken
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    I've always just pushed skoria to the side when dealing with PvP. This thread has rekindled my interest.

    About how many DoTs would be needed at a minimum?

    I'd say no less than 3 DOTs is a safe bet, which brings you to a cumulative ~24% chance each second to proc while not on cooldown. Any less and you are probably better off using something else.
  • Waffennacht
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    @solariken would boundless storm be one to count?
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  • Solariken
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    @solariken would boundless storm be one to count?

    @Waffennacht yep! It has a pretty short range though, so it might not actually be that practical for proc'ing Skoria depending on your play style.
  • Moglijuana
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    Skoria > Neiren'eth for PvP. HOWEVER In my recent small groups I've been playing with we have had a magblade running Neiren'eth (just for fun tbh). I have noticed it does one of two things. A)It forces that person to mitigate that damage somehow (stopping their dps entirely) or B ) they take that damage to the face. SO it still has its uses. The funniest combo is a crystal inside a negate with a dk spamming talons inside lolol.
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  • Papa_Hunt
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    Degeneration counts as a DoT?
  • Strider_Roshin
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    Skoria is good now, and next update it will be phenomenal.
  • Waffennacht
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    @Strider_Roshin @Solariken

    With the new monster sets, will skoria be competitive with them?
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  • Solariken
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    With the new monster sets, will skoria be competitive with them?

    Skoria is getting a nice buff in damage and cooldown - it definitely still looks solid for DOT builds, but I honestly haven't spent much time playing with the PTS monster sets. Several sound interesting though, like Ilambris.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    @Strider_Roshin @Solariken

    With the new monster sets, will skoria be competitive with them?

    For magicka DoT builds, yes.
  • Papa_Hunt
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    Just making sure...Entropy and morphs do count as a DoT? On a templar, what other DoTs would you use (for Skoria)?
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    Papa_Hunt wrote: »
    Just making sure...Entropy and morphs do count as a DoT? On a templar, what other DoTs would you use (for Skoria)?

    Jabs, radiant destruction, ritual of retribution, vamps bane, empowering sweeps (there a dot dmg component.)

    Though I think RD might be confirmed as not procing Skoria. Need someone to confirm that.
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    Nerieneth is good for just damage, Skoria is good for if you use DOTs a lot. Mag sorcs and any NB should use Nerieneth, while templars, mag DKS, and stam sors should use Skoria.
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  • Waffennacht
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    So I was thinking of dropping skoria on my mag sorc, but with only two solid dots and a so so dot I was pretty meh on using it. Started thinking about putting it on my "hybrid" and Im very happy with the results.

    Got me a couple of axes, running rendering slashes (the heal morph aways confused with the other flurry morph), and flurry damage morph, hurricane, and Dawnbreaker.

    Quite pleased indeed looking forward to the buff, the dunmer passive couples nicely as well.
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  • SupremeTravie
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    skoria because it will hit the player and others around.. the other one is an anchored aoe that is easily avoidable. PvP is always moving know one is going to stay in an red aoe that gives you a chance to move out of before it explodes.
  • SupremeTravie
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    skoria also hits harder
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