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How to combat the Stam Meta in 3 Easy Steps

  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    Beepbeep wrote: »
    Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

    Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

    Why run ice comet when shooting star returns ulti and does flame damage (half the people in Cyrodiil are vamps)?
  • Lord-Otto
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    Egonieser wrote: »
    Step 1: Ice Comet
    Step 2: Radiant Oppression
    Step 3: Vicious Death

    Enjoy getting a week's worth of AP in one night! Kablooie!!!

    One bonus tip: Hit the one in the middle.

    Nope. Curse+Comet+Streak=Win

    No NB except heavy armour tanks have the health to survive that, given the fact if my comet crits, combined with empowerment it oneshots them anyway, but curse is there just to make sure they stay dead.

    Only that you can't empower the bloody expensive Meteor or any ultimate, that Curse is highly telegraphed and hits like a wet noodle, and you still have to catch the opponent with Streak while being rooted, snared or cc'ed. Whereas they can just heavy-Incap-execute you every twenty seconds.
  • Lord-Otto
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    Saucy_Jack wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Why do people only play stamina or magica. I don't see why people stick to one. Play different toons.

    The reason for this is because weapon damage and spell damage are king, and more stam = more weap damage; more magicka = more spell damage.

    The way the game is now, there's not really any reason for someone to sacrifice weap/spell damage for anything else unless they want to relegate themselves to a complete utility build. Which isn't a bad thing, but if you ask most players whether they want to be the star performer or the stagehand in the back, as it were, I doubt the majority would pick stagehand.

    He meant why you don't have full stamina builds and full magicka builds, instead of just all characters full magicka, for example. Trust, me, Brrrofski is fully aware of how damage stacking works! ;3
  • geonsocal
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    @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO ...just wondering- if you kill someone with siege - does the VD effect still proc?
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  • Ron_Burgundy_79
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO ...just wondering- if you kill someone with siege - does the VD effect still proc?

    Yes it does. Pouring oil on an inner breach is probably the quickest/easiest way to make 10k AP, especially when paired with VD.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO ...just wondering- if you kill someone with siege - does the VD effect still proc?

    Yup. Those cold fire ballistas make a serious dent!
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    Sweet, yeah - there are times when my bounty counter goes into hyper drive when I'm firing the cold fire ballista into a crowd...sadly, that's one of the only ways to complete my sorcerer bounty - just not too many of them out there these days...
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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    geonsocal wrote: »
    Sweet, yeah - there are times when my bounty counter goes into hyper drive when I'm firing the cold fire ballista into a crowd...sadly, that's one of the only ways to complete my sorcerer bounty - just not too many of them out there these days...

    Just shoot the one in the middle!
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    Surak73 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Can't wait to see what all these beaming wonders will do once people discover the beauty of swarm mother in update 12, heh.

    It will not change much, I think. One single magplar who use RD is not a big problem even now: problem is when 3/4 magplars are spamming RD together. And with swarm mother, all you will get will be a magplar jabbing and snaring you from melee distance while his three friends continue to RD you from far away...

    people whining about RD makes me laugh, thos who use it before execute usually end up dead real quick, its an execute not a dps skill. nothing wrong RD its fine!

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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Surak73 wrote: »
    Sharee wrote: »
    Can't wait to see what all these beaming wonders will do once people discover the beauty of swarm mother in update 12, heh.

    It will not change much, I think. One single magplar who use RD is not a big problem even now: problem is when 3/4 magplars are spamming RD together. And with swarm mother, all you will get will be a magplar jabbing and snaring you from melee distance while his three friends continue to RD you from far away...

    people whining about RD makes me laugh, thos who use it before execute usually end up dead real quick, its an execute not a dps skill. nothing wrong RD its fine!

    95% of the time when I hit someone with it on full health it's either because I tried to hit the guy next to you, or I'm defending a keep wall. People see the beam and scatter no matter their health.

    That said, if you proc an ice comet, and hit RD before the comet hits you have a high likelihood of melting your target with the second or third tick of RD.
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Beepbeep wrote: »
    Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

    Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

    Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.
    I see your back time to hunt down Deeco healers when I get on tonight.

    Just got off. We were holding pretty well in our 8 on 8000 battle vs yellow at Allesia. If you could grab some blues and kick AD around a bit it'd be much appreciated.
    Lmao that's every day now 40+ AD VS 10-15 DC and EP its not a nice fight.We were holding Our side down you guys ended up messing up lol.
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    Jaronking wrote: »
    Jaronking wrote: »
    Beepbeep wrote: »
    Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

    Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

    Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.
    I see your back time to hunt down Deeco healers when I get on tonight.

    Just got off. We were holding pretty well in our 8 on 8000 battle vs yellow at Allesia. If you could grab some blues and kick AD around a bit it'd be much appreciated.
    Lmao that's every day now 40+ AD VS 10-15 DC and EP its not a nice fight.We were holding Our side down you guys ended up messing up lol.

    Not on my watch! Haha. We were tower farming them in a collapsed tower at one point. Yellows coming out of everywhere like Walking Dead zombies. At least I got to fry Wilair666 (or whatever his name is) at one point. And at least the AP was glorious!
  • KingYogi415
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    I ran this same build when VD dropped.

    I was pretty sure RD never proced V death.

    Good to know it's working now!
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    Bug that Comet is dodgeable still not fixed.
  • a1i3nz
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    Makes more sense to use shooting star. Flame damage, ulti return, lots of vamps.

    But idk if that's really how you counter the Stam meta. I've found running malubeth screws up a lot of ganking when they hit you and if it procs than a) you get their health and b) major mending to heal up fast. I usually run it in the sewers or when solo and bound to get ganked. Also, if you can replace inner light with radiant you won't be able to get got by a stealthy ninja as easily. Just a thought.
  • SRASinister
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    Makes more sense to use shooting star. Flame damage, ulti return, lots of vamps.

    But idk if that's really how you counter the Stam meta. I've found running malubeth screws up a lot of ganking when they hit you and if it procs than a) you get their health and b) major mending to heal up fast. I usually run it in the sewers or when solo and bound to get ganked. Also, if you can replace inner light with radiant you won't be able to get got by a stealthy ninja as easily. Just a thought.

    Lol like anyone can gank you with your heavy armor alien.
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  • a1i3nz
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    Makes more sense to use shooting star. Flame damage, ulti return, lots of vamps.

    But idk if that's really how you counter the Stam meta. I've found running malubeth screws up a lot of ganking when they hit you and if it procs than a) you get their health and b) major mending to heal up fast. I usually run it in the sewers or when solo and bound to get ganked. Also, if you can replace inner light with radiant you won't be able to get got by a stealthy ninja as easily. Just a thought.

    Lol like anyone can gank you with your heavy armor alien.

    I just made heavy yesterday tbh! I was running 5-1-1 light before, but with transmutation and s&b.

    But for real stamblades are just stupid op right now with 2 cheap op instant ultis and the whole armor set thing too (viper, velidreth). If I don't run immovable pots I'll be feared every 4 seconds and killed with a heavy attack lol.

    And oh yeah, perfect timing for the Cyrodiil immovable pots to be broken! Now I have to farm or shell out tons of gold for the good ones.
    Edited by a1i3nz on 10 September 2016 05:37
  • Jaronking
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    Makes more sense to use shooting star. Flame damage, ulti return, lots of vamps.

    But idk if that's really how you counter the Stam meta. I've found running malubeth screws up a lot of ganking when they hit you and if it procs than a) you get their health and b) major mending to heal up fast. I usually run it in the sewers or when solo and bound to get ganked. Also, if you can replace inner light with radiant you won't be able to get got by a stealthy ninja as easily. Just a thought.

    Lol like anyone can gank you with your heavy armor alien.

    I just made heavy yesterday tbh! I was running 5-1-1 light before, but with transmutation and s&b.

    But for real stamblades are just stupid op right now with 2 cheap op instant ultis and the whole armor set thing too (viper, velidreth). If I don't run immovable pots I'll be feared every 4 seconds and killed with a heavy attack lol.

    And oh yeah, perfect timing for the Cyrodiil immovable pots to be broken! Now I have to farm or shell out tons of gold for the good ones.
    Well they said they will be fixed in Tuesday patch but I always just made my own.Got to be crafty to survive those procblades.
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