How to combat the Stam Meta in 3 Easy Steps

FearlessOne_2014 · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

chaserstorm16909 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Step 1: Ice Comet
Step 2: Radiant Oppression
Step 3: Vicious Death

Enjoy getting a week's worth of AP in one night! Kablooie!!!

One bonus tip: Hit the one in the middle.

And hope they're too dumb to block.

And most are. Haha. It helps when you focus on a newb and let them VD the hardcore players next to them.

You are evil!
I like it!
Death to all of the Stamina gear procing killers!
To death on the horn of the Unicorn!

Waffennacht · September 2016

SnB ult + swarm mother = lmfao at my magicka sorc

CapuchinSeven · September 2016

Cronopoly wrote: »

In all seriousness Magicka builds should start by running immovable pots... If cc is our weakness then give yourself some time. Make's a world of a different in fight time. You still die, but you at least can cast something...

I think stamina or immovable pots are the only thing that keeps me going as magicka to be honest.

geonsocal · September 2016

@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO ...hey sir, not to get you to give away any trade secrets or anything - but, what gear do you run alongside your VD?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

geonsocal wrote: »

@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO ...hey sir, not to get you to give away any trade secrets or anything - but, what gear do you run alongside your VD?

Glad to help.

5 piece VD
5 piece Julianos
1 Kena
All magic enchants (spell power on VD jewelry) all infused

My Breton is about 42.5K magic and 3.3K spell power when buffed.

Enjoy!

geonsocal · September 2016

@danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO ...thank you very much...good to know...wait a minute now - you said something about radiant oppression, you have VD on your Templar - you're blowing my mind dude

Ron_Burgundy_79 · September 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

DannyLV702 · September 2016

Someone tried this on me just last night while I was sieging and failed.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

For what it's worth, if there is a bug I didn't know about it.

Sharee · September 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

It is most likely a lag issue.

When a meteor is incoming, and you activate block at the last split second, but still before the impact animation, you will not block the meteor, despite visually appearing to be blocking at the point of impact.

The animations you can see and what actually happens on the server are not 100% in sync. To successfully block the meteor, you have to start blocking much sooner, like 1 second before the actual impact can be observed.

Sandman929 · September 2016

Sharee wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

It is most likely a lag issue.

When a meteor is incoming, and you activate block at the last split second, but still before the impact animation, you will not block the meteor, despite visually appearing to be blocking at the point of impact.

The animations you can see and what actually happens on the server are not 100% in sync. To successfully block the meteor, you have to start blocking much sooner, like 1 second before the actual impact can be observed.

Ah...I block when I see the circle around my feet, so I hadn't noticed any getting through the block.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

For what it's worth, if there is a bug I didn't know about it.

Even if it is a bug, it's only fair with all these stam baddies running around in Cyrodiil.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

For what it's worth, if there is a bug I didn't know about it.

Even if it is a bug, it's only fair with all these stam baddies running around in Cyrodiil.

This is why you have so many leather bound books Mr. Burgundy. May all your shields be made of rich mahogany.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · September 2016

Sharee wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

It is most likely a lag issue.

When a meteor is incoming, and you activate block at the last split second, but still before the impact animation, you will not block the meteor, despite visually appearing to be blocking at the point of impact.

The animations you can see and what actually happens on the server are not 100% in sync. To successfully block the meteor, you have to start blocking much sooner, like 1 second before the actual impact can be observed.

I'll have to see if I recorded it. It's likely just the lag (I am on console), but I believe the guy was blocking for at least a second before it hit.

psychotic13 · September 2016

Pinja wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Step 1: Ice Comet
Step 2: Radiant Oppression
Step 3: Vicious Death

Enjoy getting a week's worth of AP in one night! Kablooie!!!

One bonus tip: Hit the one in the middle.

Step 1: If you couldn't block it. (After I went & collected the lore books)
Step 2: If I was Templar & you couldn't interrupt it. (with even freer Swam mother gap closer)
Step 3: If I couldn't kill ya in the first place? (With your selfless now skrewd RD templar, after universal Proxy nerf.)
Step 4: If you want fair balance changes, add Dual Wands.
As obviously no such, "How to combat the Stam Meta in 3 Easy Steps", solution exists.

Dude you're linking your thread into almost every thread I've read

calm down

Jaronking · September 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

You need to hit him hard enough with the comet or the radiant wont do enough before they heal and cloak.

But i shall still try this.

The only reason that works is because meteor and both morphs are currently going through block on Xbox with a good build you will nuked most people.This is probably just a issue on Xbox not sure about PC AND pS4

I 1v1'ed a heavy armor stam dk twice this weekend. Both fights took a while. I hit him with 3 meteors in the first 1v1, 2 of which went through block.

You can tell it went through block because it's obvious when someone's blocking (the ugly shield thing that pops up while blocking) and the meteor cc is also very obvious.

The second fight was a little quicker. My second meteor went through block and I killed him.

It's not a confirmed bug, but there's definitely something wrong.

For what it's worth, if there is a bug I didn't know about it.

Even if it is a bug, it's only fair with all these stam baddies running around in Cyrodiil.

Your so mean to my Stam brothers @Ron_Burgundy_79 .

leepalmer95 · September 2016

What do i do if they've developed the ability to block?

Do i spam radiant until they die thats what all the good templars do right?

Elara_Northwind · September 2016

But.... When you kill somebody with RD... They often spend a long time whispering you that you are a cheater

I have even resorted to taking it off of my bar, and spending 10 minutes longer killing them with only spears, with no finisher, because I can't be bothered with the abuse

And even without RD, I get called by these 2 shot stam ppl, a perma blocker... Me, with my 9k stam, a perma blocker lol even the notion is laughable, but they still say it

I wish I could actually permablcok and 1 shot them with RD, like I do in their crazy minds

Elara_Northwind · September 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

What do i do if they've developed the ability to block?

Do i spam radiant until they die thats what all the good templars do right?

Apparently, RD is ALL templars do, and perma block, according to the people I spoke to today. I was pretty much banned from blocking and RD in the duels I had on pts... I was actually scared to use my 1h and shield ulti, incase that was classed as permablocking

Beepbeep · September 2016

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Jaronking · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

I see your back time to hunt down Deeco healers when I get on tonight.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

I see your back time to hunt down Deeco healers when I get on tonight.

Just got off. We were holding pretty well in our 8 on 8000 battle vs yellow at Allesia. If you could grab some blues and kick AD around a bit it'd be much appreciated.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

I'm the 7 to 10 EST shift.

leepalmer95 · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Does killing questers count though ?

Didn't know people still use VD though, though't people were past this.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Does killing questers count though ?

Didn't know people still use VD though, though't people were past this.

I just spent the last 2 hours fighting a bazillion yellows with about a half dozen guys. I almost never leave the main battle.

You're right though, almost no one uses VD anymore. I'm bringing it back. When a 20 person yellow ball comes running out at you it works very well.

Seriously guys, no one blocks and people die 2, 3, 5 or more at a time. If anything I'm at my worst ganking questers because usually I end up taking a dizzying swing to the face.

But gimme a bit of space and kablooie. Easily, easily killed 100+ tonight.

leepalmer95 · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Does killing questers count though ?

Didn't know people still use VD though, though't people were past this.

I just spent the last 2 hours fighting a bazillion yellows with about a half dozen guys. I almost never leave the main battle.

You're right though, almost no one uses VD anymore. I'm bringing it back. When a 20 person yellow ball comes running out at you it works very well.

Seriously guys, no one blocks and people die 2, 3, 5 or more at a time. If anything I'm at my worst ganking questers because usually I end up taking a dizzying swing to the face.

But gimme a bit of space and kablooie. Easily, easily killed 100+ tonight.

Should strip and punch them to death

Then your a real 1vX pro.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Does killing questers count though ?

Didn't know people still use VD though, though't people were past this.

I just spent the last 2 hours fighting a bazillion yellows with about a half dozen guys. I almost never leave the main battle.

You're right though, almost no one uses VD anymore. I'm bringing it back. When a 20 person yellow ball comes running out at you it works very well.

Seriously guys, no one blocks and people die 2, 3, 5 or more at a time. If anything I'm at my worst ganking questers because usually I end up taking a dizzying swing to the face.

But gimme a bit of space and kablooie. Easily, easily killed 100+ tonight.

Should strip and punch them to death

Then your a real 1vX pro.

Haha. Nope. Honestly I'm good at best at this game and have mediocre reaction times. You have personally killed me quite easily before. What I am though is crafty and persistent. I'd never win a fair fight against most of you. That's why I theory craft my butt off to give me every legal advantage I can. You should see my Batman like utility belt of situational potions.

Here's the truth though. Stamina builds are off the wall nowadays and someone needs to think of something to stop them. If my build helps at all, awesome. If not, I'll think of something else.

leepalmer95 · September 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Does killing questers count though ?

Didn't know people still use VD though, though't people were past this.

I just spent the last 2 hours fighting a bazillion yellows with about a half dozen guys. I almost never leave the main battle.

You're right though, almost no one uses VD anymore. I'm bringing it back. When a 20 person yellow ball comes running out at you it works very well.

Seriously guys, no one blocks and people die 2, 3, 5 or more at a time. If anything I'm at my worst ganking questers because usually I end up taking a dizzying swing to the face.

But gimme a bit of space and kablooie. Easily, easily killed 100+ tonight.

Should strip and punch them to death

Then your a real 1vX pro.

Haha. Nope. Honestly I'm good at best at this game and have mediocre reaction times. You have personally killed me quite easily before. What I am though is crafty and persistent. I'd never win a fair fight against most of you. That's why I theory craft my butt off to give me every legal advantage I can. You should see my Batman like utility belt of situational potions.

Here's the truth though. Stamina builds are off the wall nowadays and someone needs to think of something to stop them. If my build helps at all, awesome. If not, I'll think of something else.

I agree stam builds are stupidly strong compare to magicka.

But seriously go full on naked apart from belt, gloves and 3x jewellery in VD and go try get a last hit with a punch on someone and watch them blow every up, it would be funny.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · September 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Beepbeep wrote: »

Your strategy will only work on those who come to Cyrodil to pick flowers.

Ice Comet is blocked 99% of the time.

Your statement is 99% wrong as evidenced by the 50 kills I just got in the last 20 minutes.

Does killing questers count though ?

Didn't know people still use VD though, though't people were past this.

I just spent the last 2 hours fighting a bazillion yellows with about a half dozen guys. I almost never leave the main battle.

You're right though, almost no one uses VD anymore. I'm bringing it back. When a 20 person yellow ball comes running out at you it works very well.

Seriously guys, no one blocks and people die 2, 3, 5 or more at a time. If anything I'm at my worst ganking questers because usually I end up taking a dizzying swing to the face.

But gimme a bit of space and kablooie. Easily, easily killed 100+ tonight.

Should strip and punch them to death

Then your a real 1vX pro.

Haha. Nope. Honestly I'm good at best at this game and have mediocre reaction times. You have personally killed me quite easily before. What I am though is crafty and persistent. I'd never win a fair fight against most of you. That's why I theory craft my butt off to give me every legal advantage I can. You should see my Batman like utility belt of situational potions.

Here's the truth though. Stamina builds are off the wall nowadays and someone needs to think of something to stop them. If my build helps at all, awesome. If not, I'll think of something else.

I agree stam builds are stupidly strong compare to magicka.

But seriously go full on naked apart from belt, gloves and 3x jewellery in VD and go try get a last hit with a punch on someone and watch them blow every up, it would be funny.

You got a good point. That would be pretty awesome.

Death Punch!