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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Why do i get destroyed in pvp all the time

  • PS4_ZeColmeia
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    Because you touch yourself at night.

    :smiley:
    Edited by PS4_ZeColmeia on 12 August 2016 23:50
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    Hybrid, All-Role NB
  • BruhItsOver9000
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    I laugh at people who don't wear impen, don't they know that instakilling has become easier after db.
    thank you for the free ap.
    WOOD ELF MASTER RACE.

  • Noobslayer3255
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    There is so much misinformation in here.

    - Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
    - Build either max resources or max damage.
    - Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
    - Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.

    There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.

    Please explain how impen is overrated.

    Impen reduces crit damage. Crit damage does not happen all of the time. Wasting resources on a bonus is a waste. I'll use an example.

    Let's say you get hit for 10k non crit damage. The crit bumps it up to 15k. Your impen accounts for, say, 50% midigation. That makes it into a 12.5k damage hit to you. Congrats you just used your trait to lessen what amounts to a light attack away from you.

    But wait there is more ... most people only crit about 50% of the time. So half the time it's useless.

    In effect your using a trait to lessen a 50% damage bonus that occurs about 50% of the time by about 50%? That's a ridiculous waste.

    Put your trait, whichever one you go with, as something that helps 100% of the time.

    You should try to comprehend how mechanics work before giving out advice such as impen is garbage. It is by far and away the best trait for PvP gear to the point where I and many others don't run sets that don't come in impen, as wearing less than 5 impen pieces will get you blown up very quickly by any bursty build in Cyrodiil.

    If you had 50% critical damage mitigation, you are reducing your attacker's critical modifier by .5. Take a Sorc with 0 points in critical damage CP, they have a 1.5x critical modifier. Say their frags tooltip is 10k, their crits will hit for 15k. However, with 50% crit reduction, you are reducing their critical modifier to 1 (1.5-.5 = 1). So that 15k crit becomes a 10k crit. Massive difference.

    I drop 18k incaps on people with no impen, 10k on tankier players with lots of crit resistance.
  • coolermh
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    Just run malabeth and reactive
    -MrHeid625
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    Magika Sorc AD
    Stamina NB AD
    Stam DK AD
    Magika NB-
    Magika Temp-
    Stam Warden
    Stam Sorc
    Mag Warden
  • Bromburak
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    I usually get wrecked before I have time to bust out of cp its ridiculous

    You are basically saying "I have copied and practice some combos by Christiano Ronaldo in front of a mirror, but I am not able to win duels on the soccer field".

    I am just trying to tell you that copying builds mean nothing to perform at your personal limits.
    What matters is your own experience and that you work on your personal skills. Same with sports and job in real life you will always find your individual strength. You will improve no matter what, but you need to accept the fact that you are not like person X.
  • RedFireDisco
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    I don't know Dan, I think Impen is hugely important to my build. The only thing that kills me in duels is crits when I don't run impen. i can dodge, heal and outlast most damage, but spikes are the burst of death.

    When a 2h hits me with executioner I can either live or die of it crits? I am more than happy to run full impen and 48 points in resilient to suppress bursts and know my own capabilities than to leave it to chance (critical chance).
  • altemriel
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    mmcgibbo wrote: »
    I use sypherpks stam nightblade build. I'm a wood elf. Ive got 335cp. I hold my own more in trueflame than I do in azuras where theres no cp. I usually get wrecked before I have time to bust out of cp its ridiculous. am I missing some fundamental part of pvp?



    i use syphers stam DK build, slightly modified, and I usually play PVE, so I also get wrecked in PVP in 2 seconds usually....got to learn.....play more...
  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    mmcgibbo wrote: »
    I use sypherpks stam nightblade build. I'm a wood elf. Ive got 335cp. I hold my own more in trueflame than I do in azuras where theres no cp. I usually get wrecked before I have time to bust out of cp its ridiculous. am I missing some fundamental part of pvp?

    Champion Point passives are like an addictive crutch to a LOT of players. That's why the Non-CP campaign is so empty all the time, I wouldn't doubt it if a lot of "God Tier" PvPlayers in CP Campaigns went over to Azuras and suddenly started losing all the time. I've even heard people flat out admit they won't go to Azura's cause they rely on their points too much.

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    i disagree, the big issue of having max lots of cp is it effects how you can make a build. most players would need to make a completely new build to go to azuras star and who wants to wast all them resources to go play on a non competitive and mostly dead campaign.
    Edited by dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO on 13 August 2016 18:41
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