Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please explain how impen is overrated.
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
HaldaAinur wrote: »I'm the same buddy- although I generally only use builds as a base, and customise as needed, if at all - sometimes you're just not good at PvP in certain games. I can woop ass in PvE yet I'm happy to admit I'm not good at PvP in this game at all.
I tend to find following a generic build as a base and adapting it to your playstyle, and asking for advice, plus practice, can go a long long way.
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »HaldaAinur wrote: »I'm the same buddy- although I generally only use builds as a base, and customise as needed, if at all - sometimes you're just not good at PvP in certain games. I can woop ass in PvE yet I'm happy to admit I'm not good at PvP in this game at all.
I tend to find following a generic build as a base and adapting it to your playstyle, and asking for advice, plus practice, can go a long long way.
Usually I'm awful at PVP. I might be the worst Battlefield player ever. ESO just comes naturally to me. I started thinking about my build years ago and tweek it here and there. My build makes no sense to most people but it works great for me.
The worst thing you can do in ESO PVP is think that you have to conform to the FOTM.
If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
I'm sure you're a good player, but if you think I'm giving bad advice I'm also sure you aren't as good as you could be. It's whatever, take it or don't. But I leave a pile of bodies in my wake every night and rarely die.
Potions are your friend. Impen is hot garbage. Think outside the box and prosper.
itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
You know that sturdy is block cost reduction, right? I think you're thinking of reinforced.
Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
I'm sure you're a good player, but if you think I'm giving bad advice I'm also sure you aren't as good as you could be. It's whatever, take it or don't. But I leave a pile of bodies in my wake every night and rarely die.
Potions are your friend. Impen is hot garbage. Think outside the box and prosper.
Impen is life in small scale PVP / 1vXing. The fact that you think otherwise is comical.
magictucktuck wrote: »itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
@itscompton to say someone has no idea what they are doing because of a fraction of a percentage point seems pretty ignorant to me..
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
You know that sturdy is block cost reduction, right? I think you're thinking of reinforced.Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
I'm sure you're a good player, but if you think I'm giving bad advice I'm also sure you aren't as good as you could be. It's whatever, take it or don't. But I leave a pile of bodies in my wake every night and rarely die.
Potions are your friend. Impen is hot garbage. Think outside the box and prosper.
Impen is life in small scale PVP / 1vXing. The fact that you think otherwise is comical.
Got sturdy and reinforced mixed up. Sorry.
Small scale PVP isn't Cyrodiil. Dueling isn't ESO PVP. The fact that you used THAT for your example is comical.
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
You know that sturdy is block cost reduction, right? I think you're thinking of reinforced.Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
I'm sure you're a good player, but if you think I'm giving bad advice I'm also sure you aren't as good as you could be. It's whatever, take it or don't. But I leave a pile of bodies in my wake every night and rarely die.
Potions are your friend. Impen is hot garbage. Think outside the box and prosper.
Impen is life in small scale PVP / 1vXing. The fact that you think otherwise is comical.
Got sturdy and reinforced mixed up. Sorry.
Small scale PVP isn't Cyrodiil. Dueling isn't ESO PVP. The fact that you used THAT for your example is comical.
Why am I quoted? I'm not giving any examples. I was just correcting the guy that thought sturdy was reinforced.
You can't just copy someones build and be good. You're not Sypher and you will likely never play as well as him. You need to talior the playstyle to something that is more comfortable to you. Keep practicing and getting rekt and you'll get better.
UltimaJoe777 wrote: »You can't just copy someones build and be good. You're not Sypher and you will likely never play as well as him. You need to talior the playstyle to something that is more comfortable to you. Keep practicing and getting rekt and you'll get better.
I am honestly and sincerely glad someone else sees things this way. Gives me hope that someday cookie cutter builds will be a thing of the past...
He is absolutely right though, use your own build and not someone else's. If anything, use someone's build as a starting point and build from there.
I use sypherpks stam nightblade build. I'm a wood elf. Ive got 335cp. I hold my own more in trueflame than I do in azuras where theres no cp. I usually get wrecked before I have time to bust out of cp its ridiculous. am I missing some fundamental part of pvp?
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
You know that sturdy is block cost reduction, right? I think you're thinking of reinforced.Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
I'm sure you're a good player, but if you think I'm giving bad advice I'm also sure you aren't as good as you could be. It's whatever, take it or don't. But I leave a pile of bodies in my wake every night and rarely die.
Potions are your friend. Impen is hot garbage. Think outside the box and prosper.
Impen is life in small scale PVP / 1vXing. The fact that you think otherwise is comical.
Got sturdy and reinforced mixed up. Sorry.
Small scale PVP isn't Cyrodiil. Dueling isn't ESO PVP. The fact that you used THAT for your example is comical.
Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
You know that sturdy is block cost reduction, right? I think you're thinking of reinforced.Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »There is so much misinformation in here.
- Impen is the single most over rated thing in PVP. Regen is probably second.
- Build either max resources or max damage.
- Best defense is a good offense. If you want to survive an instant death, be the one who causes the instant death.
- Be like Batman and prepare for every scenario. PVP is not a duel. I'm a Templar and with the press of one button I can regain resources, go invisible, go super fast, become a mist formed tank, or instant kill someone. Creative potions are your friend.
There are things that people do in 1 on 1s that are nothing like an actual keep fight. Don't be the guy who can win a duel, be the guy who can win a 50 on 50.
Please dont listen to anything in the post above
I'm sure you're a good player, but if you think I'm giving bad advice I'm also sure you aren't as good as you could be. It's whatever, take it or don't. But I leave a pile of bodies in my wake every night and rarely die.
Potions are your friend. Impen is hot garbage. Think outside the box and prosper.
Impen is life in small scale PVP / 1vXing. The fact that you think otherwise is comical.
Got sturdy and reinforced mixed up. Sorry.
Small scale PVP isn't Cyrodiil. Dueling isn't ESO PVP. The fact that you used THAT for your example is comical.
First of all, I never mentioned dueling. I said 1vXing. That's 1 player against multiple players.
While the objective of the campaign takes larger groups, small scale PVP is still very common in Cyrodiil. My group of 2-6 wiping a group of 20 is small scale PVP. Small scale pvp happens quite often, if you're not busy zerging.
Have you tried out the Imperial City since the Dark Brotherhood update? How about the sewers? Both are designed for small scale PVP.
danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »itscompton wrote: »If you're running all sturdy you really have no idea what you're doing considering that heavy chest is the only piece of armor on which sturdy will give you more mitigation than using nirhoned would.FloppyTouch wrote: »I don't use any impen on my gear at all and I'm a magicDK I run all sturdy and kill and stay alive just fine in fact I can't be instakilled by anyone. Impen is great if ur not using sword and shield
Nirnhorned armor can cost 20k a piece. Do you have the half million in gold to lend him for nirnhorned and tempers?