Dropping the scrolls - is this a exploit zenimax?

FiveDinosaur792 · May 2016

Now thats a good idea Igawotch, not a optional title either. If we are playing like its real life then lets get mediaeval. Thieves and traitors were branded or hung. If these guys are proud of having to result to shameful methods to get some points on the game, then lets see how the communities act when they know who they are.

failkiwib16_ESO · May 2016

@FiveDinosaur792 i think their guilds are happy for them tbh, if they push the agenda of their interest further.

Also there are many cases like duellers, who step back from fighting, if members from their own faction shows up, so that their opposite faction friends can finish the randoms off, so they can continue their duels uninterrupted.

There are cases such as me in IC sewers, where I told my random group where the emperor of opposite faction was, and I told the emperor where my group was on the map, so the two can unite. If I judge the group I'm in to be useless, then I go and help them try to kill the emperor - sometimes it happens, other times we get owned. Either way, it's fun and a little wanted pvp from both sides.

I've lately become worried about dealing damage against how health emperors, because I often get the last blow - and others in my group don't get the emperor slayer achievements. x_x

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · May 2016

well if you just make up your own definition than no wonder your confused.

generally, In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitches, game system, rates, hit boxes, or speed, etc. by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.

so no picking up a scroll and dropping it is not an exploit;

sometimes an exploit is cheating, often not. if a set happens to do more than it says because they *** up its coding, is every person with it equipped a cheater? NO. did you go farm it because the bug is op, and you think you think you are talented at pwnign noobs while you are using it?exploiter

Rune_Relic · May 2016

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

Oh sorry. It was addressed. Perhaps tagging g @ZOS_BrianWheeler can confirm. But this quote may help

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

Two Alliances ganging up on another alliance is something that's inherent to the 3 sided aspect of Cyrodiil, or any multi-team game above 2 really. Enemies of enemies forms strange bed-fellows and sometimes this turns out to be the 2 underpopulated/under-scoring alliances, sometimes it's not.

In terms of actual scroll trading where one alliance grabs a scroll and willingly dies/drops it, for another alliance to pick up and deposit, is not an exploit as much as it's campaign politics. Gate jumpers however, as we've discussed on these forums, is an exploit.

Saying returning a scroll to a party is OK.
Is not the same as giving your own alliance scrolls to the enemy (ie treachery).

Johngo0036 · May 2016

Hi,

I was witness to this sort of behavior on the EU DC faction in NON-VET.

5 DC players warped into Faregyl using their AD buddy,
When i confronted them they told me to keep my nose out of it,

I did report them but have not heard anything till today,
This happened months ago,

I personally believe that this should have been addressed by zenni, as well as removing scrolls without the keep being seiged...

Absolute bull....

Snape2255 · May 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

Obviously Zenimax wants armies to have spies and traitors in them such as real life. I hate it because there is no loyalty amongst each faction.

My main two PVP guilds are pure-AD. If any member is seen on a Red or Blue in our current PVP campaign at any point they are removed without warning (their only warning being in our MOTD from the get-go.) This promotes loyalty to AD and shows who we can trust and who we should be wary of when running around.

As for the 'exploit'. I feel like dropping scrolls in water and delves etc. to reset it to the keep is a *** move, but fine. I feel like a spy picking it up and intentionally running it back up to their home faction is a pathetic, disgusting tactic, however not illegal. 'Warping' however, never seen it happen personally but from what I can gather...get rid of it, that's evidently not allowed. If you can't mount whilst on a scroll, then you shouldn't be able to 'warp'.

Waffennacht · May 2016

R u seriously quotin the huff and puff post as some form of legitimacy over wiki? Say what?

Anyway, not exploit though wish it didn't happen

I advocate a kill the traitor system

FiveDinosaur792 · May 2016

No I was using it as an example. I think kill the traitor would work out well for everyone.