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Monster Set +Magicka Recovery One Piece Bonus

Vaoh
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Current list of Monster Sets and their 1-piece bonuses

Valkyn Skoria: Max Health
Nerien'eth: Max Health
Scourge Harvester: Max Health
Spawn of Mephala: Max Health
Molag Kena: Spell/Weapon Damage
Lord Warden: Spell/Physical Resistance
Blood Spawn: Stamina Recovery
Nightflame: Max Health
Engine Guardian: Health Recovery
Maw of the Infernal: Max Health
***Only 4/10 sets have something other than Max Health, and one of them (Lord Warden) has a terrible one-piece bonus.

I believe the Lord Warden set is good for the swap since it has a weak one-piece bonus, but we need to remember it is DLC content. Locking it behind the Crown Store and the most difficult Vet Dungeon is a little harsh considering Blood Spawn is both easy to acquire and part of the base game.

I don't think that there is a real reason why you can't gain a one-piece Magicka Recovery bonus when a one-piece Stamina Recovery bonus is available.

Question: Do you want one of the Monster Sets besides Engine Guardian, Blood Spawn, or Molag Kena to be changed to have a one-piece Magicka Recovery bonus?
Edited by Vaoh on 22 April 2016 09:04

Monster Set +Magicka Recovery One Piece Bonus 113 votes

Yes. Valkyn Skoria
6%
ol050770b16_ESOsparafucilsarwb17_ESOGhost-ShotHermodSafiyerAmitoraTomatoLadyNalcarya 7 votes
Yes. Nerien'eth
19%
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Yes. Spawn of Mephala
1%
Fat_Cat45Vaoh 2 votes
Yes. Maw of the Infernal
7%
fastolfv_ESONahzRebMettaricanaEmma_OverloadGnGEmpireErralnshuggDuiwel 9 votes
Yes. Nightflame
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Yes. Scourge Harvester
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Philhype 1 vote
Yes. Lord Warden
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juha.smedsneb18_ESOEdziuBfish22090EshelmenCowboyOfEldWollust 6 votes
Yes. More than one Monster Set should be changed to have a +Magicka Recovery one-piece bonus.
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No.
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Other
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  • Dubhliam
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    Yes. Nightflame
    The only set with with mag regen bonus should be the one NOT designed to improve your DPS.

    Hence Nightflame.
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  • Erraln
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    Yes. Maw of the Infernal
    Of the current sets, I'd say Maw of the Infernal or Nightflame would be the best place for a magic regen line. They are the ones that most directly benefit caster roles. I'm sure there's someone out there that is using either of those for its health effect, though, so instead of messing up people's gear I'd hope a new set could be released with the bonus.
  • Bossdonut
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    No.
    Magicka isn't strong enough already jesus lord almighty.
  • stevepdodson_ESO888
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    More importantly...why not make a set that actually helps the DPS of Stam builds.

    The only set that does physical dmg (and so scales with your stats) is Maw of Infernal (and even then you still have the down side of fire breathing).

    Everything else is magicka damage of some sort.

    I have tested every dmg producing monster set - for magicka builds the same set produces more dmg based off your max magicka/spell dmg than for a magicka build...and of course your CP's will be geared up do give it an additional boost too.
  • Yusuf
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    Yes. Nightflame
    Nobody touch Lord Warden!
  • Duiwel
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    Yes. Maw of the Infernal
    Voted
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  • Shader_Shibes
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    Doncellius wrote: »
    Current list of Monster Sets and their 1-piece bonuses

    Valkyn Skoria: Max Health
    Nerien'eth: Max Health
    Scourge Harvester: Max Health
    Spawn of Mephala: Max Health
    Molag Kena: Spell/Weapon Damage
    Lord Warden: Spell/Physical Resistance
    Blood Spawn: Stamina Recovery
    Nightflame: Max Health
    Engine Guardian: Health Recovery
    Maw of the Infernal: Max Health
    ***Only 4/10 sets have something other than Max Health, and one of them (Lord Warden) has a terrible one-piece bonus.

    That's some real nice imagination from ZOS there.
  • agro2014
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    Yes. Nightflame
    Nightflame is the set which needs Magicka Recovery bonuses, this change would be very good for healers.
  • Edziu
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    Yes. Lord Warden
    maybe lord warden

    like bloodspawn for defense has stam regen so why not defensive lord warden cant have mag regen?
  • hrothbern
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    Engine Guardian has Health Recovery as 1 piece bonus.
    Engine Guardian is aimed at Tanks.

    I a recent poll among Tanks, Health Recovery was together with the 4% Healing Done bonus the least preferred set bonus. See also: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/255362/for-the-new-tanking-set-which-2-3-4-piece-bonus-do-you-not-want#p1

    I guess that most Tanks, like me, would prefer a one-piece bonus of Magicka Recovery

    Edited by hrothbern on 18 April 2016 11:56
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  • Nahz
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    Yes. Maw of the Infernal
    Extra magicka regen on the monster helm set I prefer running when using my pet build while soloing in sillydiil

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    I suppose nightflame works too though.
    Edited by Nahz on 18 April 2016 12:29
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  • llllADBllll
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    Why can't engine guardian be changed? For a vampire the 1 piece is pointless anyway....Nerienth gets my vote to many 1 piece health bonus
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  • sebban
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    I would prefer new dungeons with new sets with new set-bonuses.

    We havn't gotten new dungeons for over 6 months. Before that, the last new dungeon was in november 2014.

    More dungeons please!
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  • GnGEmpire
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    Yes. Maw of the Infernal
    Whether they introduce a 1p monster set with magicka recovery as a new set or alter an old and useless one doesn't really matter to be, but there definitely should have been something like this by now
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  • NBrookus
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    Do not touch Lord Warden. Don't touch any of them with unique traits on 1 item.

    If any should be changed, it should be fixing some of the relatively useless sets with bad 2 piece bonuses, or for an underutilized set. I am sure ZOS knows which sets are not being used now.

    I don't think it should be for a new set, if that set is behind a DLC gate it is not in parity with Bloodspawn's stamina bonus.
  • Lexxypwns
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    Yes. Nightflame
    Voted nightflame, but I would actually just prefer new vet dungeons.
  • Talyena
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    Yes. Nightflame
    I voted for the helm mostly used by magic users that wasn't DPS related. But I was torn because the helm most in need of a change is the Engine Guardian. It's the one where pretty much anything else would be an improvement.
  • Silver_Strider
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    Yes. Nightflame
    I vote Nightflame, give it some utility since the set is trash anyways.

    For all you people voting on Maw of the Inferno I have to ask, why?

    Maw does primarily melee damage with the exception of its breath attack. If anything, they should change the Max health from Maw and make it max stamina, with Nerien'eth, Valkyn Skoria and/or Mephala granting max magic


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  • LiquidSchwartz
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    No.
    magicka already gets every buff and easy sustain compared to stam.
    i play a lot of magicka and i dont think this is necessary.
    maybe a new monster set, but not changing the base ones.
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  • The_Great_Maldini
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    They do have plans for new Undaunted sets in the near future including some of the non-Vet dungeons as well. I think we should be patient and see what they have in store.
  • Flaminir
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    Yes. Nightflame
    Bogdan is in theory the healer set.... healers need regen so it fits better here than anywhere else.

    And TBH, Bogdan is so damn useless it would nice to make at least 1 piece of it viable for something
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  • Vaoh
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    Yes. Spawn of Mephala
    Why can't engine guardian be changed? For a vampire the 1 piece is pointless anyway....Nerienth gets my vote to many 1 piece health bonus

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  • Vaoh
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    Yes. Spawn of Mephala
    Take note of this poll ZOS.... since new Monster Sets aren't coming anytime soon you might consider changing one of the current sets!
  • blabafat
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    Yes. Nightflame
    Nightflame for sure. I made a post about it a couple months ago
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  • olsborg
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    Theres no monster helm with magicka regen (bloodspawn equivalent)

    And theres no magicka regen special Imperial City jewlery set (endurance equivalent)

    Just sayin...theres a trend..


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  • Edziu
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    Yes. Lord Warden
    olsborg wrote: »
    Theres no monster helm with magicka regen (bloodspawn equivalent)

    And theres no magicka regen special Imperial City jewlery set (endurance equivalent)

    Just sayin...theres a trend..

    block dont giving you negate to all crits like you damage shields, we dont have stamina regen with block up while you have magice regen whith dmg shield up + your shield absorbing 100% incoming damage to shield instead to health.

    you have powerful insta healings, we have only HoT vigor and rally (when rally has good heals only after 15+ seconds from activating it)

    you have better burst than all staminas (proxy det, zerg buster skill what hitting also harder than normal single target attacks, you can do with this 20k damage in only 1 second with this when we cant do this, we dont have any skill what we can activate and then this boom while damaging with other skills)

    and at all you have better survivability with mobility, dps than stamina builds without this one piece monster helm to magica regen, just see on maelstorm arena. only very very good players are able to done it on stamina, 95% players who farming this arena are on magica build because this isnt hard, this is very easy on magica build when on stamina its hard

    (give me moment to remind yourself some more reasons why magica is better than stamina now B) )

    EDTI: ahh and you dont need wery hight regen to survive :smiley: max dps, some regen, heavy atttacks (arch mage set can be) and no problem with magice ;) ) while stamina builds for survivability need always very hight stamina regen because heavy attacks dont work that easy to restore stamina like on magica
    Edited by Edziu on 22 April 2016 06:35
  • olsborg
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    Edziu wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Theres no monster helm with magicka regen (bloodspawn equivalent)

    And theres no magicka regen special Imperial City jewlery set (endurance equivalent)

    Just sayin...theres a trend..

    block dont giving you negate to all crits like you damage shields, we dont have stamina regen with block up while you have magice regen whith dmg shield up + your shield absorbing 100% incoming damage to shield instead to health.

    you have powerful insta healings, we have only HoT vigor and rally (when rally has good heals only after 15+ seconds from activating it)

    you have better burst than all staminas (proxy det, zerg buster skill what hitting also harder than normal single target attacks, you can do with this 20k damage in only 1 second with this when we cant do this, we dont have any skill what we can activate and then this boom while damaging with other skills)

    and at all you have better survivability with mobility, dps than stamina builds without this one piece monster helm to magica regen, just see on maelstorm arena. only very very good players are able to done it on stamina, 95% players who farming this arena are on magica build because this isnt hard, this is very easy on magica build when on stamina its hard

    (give me moment to remind yourself some more reasons why magica is better than stamina now B) )

    Agree with all you say, I used to play magicka sorc, but atm mostly playing stam nb, it still doesnt take away the fact that the magicka regen jewlry/monsterhelm is missing.

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  • Edziu
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    Yes. Lord Warden
    olsborg wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    Theres no monster helm with magicka regen (bloodspawn equivalent)

    And theres no magicka regen special Imperial City jewlery set (endurance equivalent)

    Just sayin...theres a trend..

    block dont giving you negate to all crits like you damage shields, we dont have stamina regen with block up while you have magice regen whith dmg shield up + your shield absorbing 100% incoming damage to shield instead to health.

    you have powerful insta healings, we have only HoT vigor and rally (when rally has good heals only after 15+ seconds from activating it)

    you have better burst than all staminas (proxy det, zerg buster skill what hitting also harder than normal single target attacks, you can do with this 20k damage in only 1 second with this when we cant do this, we dont have any skill what we can activate and then this boom while damaging with other skills)

    and at all you have better survivability with mobility, dps than stamina builds without this one piece monster helm to magica regen, just see on maelstorm arena. only very very good players are able to done it on stamina, 95% players who farming this arena are on magica build because this isnt hard, this is very easy on magica build when on stamina its hard

    (give me moment to remind yourself some more reasons why magica is better than stamina now B) )

    Agree with all you say, I used to play magicka sorc, but atm mostly playing stam nb, it still doesnt take away the fact that the magicka regen jewlry/monsterhelm is missing.

    hmm maybe, we got finally torug pack for stamina > leki set, weapon damage for 2 pieces like torug spell damage for 2 pieces :d
    but what else we still need? need to remind :smiley:
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