R.I.P. EU Megaserver

  • AbraXuSeXile
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    This is still happening, tried fight a zerg with 7 ppl and 5 dc.

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    im getting crazy lag on na aswell
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  • Joey053
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    After i saw this topic 3 hours ago, i started the game (ps4 EU) and had 0 problems

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  • MisterBigglesworth
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    Have you gotten a list of demands yet?
    Chopper on the roof in 10 minutes? Suitcase filled with cash? That sort of thing...
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    DDoS attack... Didn't honestly expect that. And here all these people were bashing Zenimax just because they are fashioned to attack Zenimax the moment something goes wrong... I'd say you people owe them an apology, but I know you won't give one. I'd say more, but clearly Gina has displayed that when people bash Zenimax they just shrug it off. Way to go everyone, Zenimax is hardened by all the blaming to not give a damn about your pointless bashing!

    Now back to the topic at hand. DDoS... On this game... That means someone considers ESO a threat. But who, and to what? Or is someone just so terribly bitter that they'd resort to this childishness?


    ...Come to think of it, that makes OP's title somewhat fit... Very suspicious *looks around warily*
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on 30 October 2015 03:57
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  • Levo18
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    Maybe someone or some people got angered by the extrem long maintance last days... Cant blame them ZOS deserved this attack...
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Levo18 wrote: »
    Maybe someone or some people got angered by the extrem long maintance last days... Cant blame them ZOS deserved this attack...

    If you truly feel that way why are you still playing their game? This is the kind of nonsense that just makes people honestly pity people such as yourself. This is also why I know asking people to apologize for their ridiculously rude behavior toward Zenimax is pointless, and why Zenimax themself isn't even bothered by such comments.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on 30 October 2015 04:09
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  • Bhakura
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    Or is someone just so terribly bitter that they'd resort to this childishness?

    Pretty sure its this.
    Someone needs to get laid asap. Poor fellow.

  • ladyonthemoon
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    Levo18 wrote: »
    Maybe someone or some people got angered by the extrem long maintance last days... Cant blame them ZOS deserved this attack...
    Needed, certainly not. But they probably learnt from it.

  • Titansteele
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    curiously, how many having issues have sky as an ISP? Everyone I know that's had DC issues is on sky

    Sky had a problem in Warwick area that spanned a part of this but the issue is not down to your ISP unless you are in that area. Even if you are you would have two problems, your local ISP issue and the wider issue ZOS are facing.

    DDoS attacks are nasty *** and where I was frustrated that I could not spend my time playing the game that I enjoy last night I fully understand what ZOS are faced with and will stick behind them on this one.
    I simply hope that it doesn't get worse before it gets better,
    Edited by Titansteele on 30 October 2015 08:09
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  • Nafirian
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    We can confirm not everyone is affected, though we're still looking into the root cause.

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    That was the cause
  • UltimaJoe777
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    Levo18 wrote: »
    Maybe someone or some people got angered by the extrem long maintance last days... Cant blame them ZOS deserved this attack...
    Needed, certainly not. But they probably learnt from it.

    I am assuming you think Zenimax is going to do anything differently just because of a DDoS? Well, you are not mistaken... However, it will not be the result the attacker hopes for :)

    You don't just DDoS a big gaming company and expect to get away with it lol at the very least they will upgrade their protection, which would cost more money which in turn could actually require them bolster their sales even more. If anything, this attack will do nothing but impact the consumer base.
    Nafirian wrote: »
    We can confirm not everyone is affected, though we're still looking into the root cause.

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    That was the cause

    ...You may want to read more recent posts, friend.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on 30 October 2015 08:11
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  • Leeloo.S
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno People is asking for answers in the French speaking forum (here) about why we didn't received any informations about all of this. We don't have any news about our regular CM for a while and @ZOS_Abdu closing our topic instead of giving information didn't calm anyone down. I note this is really different here.

    We need someone to give us information (even if it's only a "google translation" of what is here...).
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Hori_Loo wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno People is asking for answers in the French speaking forum (here) about why we didn't received any informations about all of this. We don't have any news about our regular CM for a while and @ZOS_Abdu closing our topic instead of giving information didn't calm anyone down. I note this is really different here.

    We need someone to give us information (even if it's only a "google translation" of what is here...).

    Here's some info: Don't use Google Translate lol that'll not help one bit.

    They had to investigate the DDoS attack while it was happened. Only by identifying it did it finally simmer down. Either the attack ended or they stopped it.
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  • Valerien
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    Was in UK was lagging like crazy last night so I logged off.

    Good to see it wasn't the hardware.
  • Leeloo.S
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    Hori_Loo wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno People is asking for answers in the French speaking forum (here) about why we didn't received any informations about all of this. We don't have any news about our regular CM for a while and @ZOS_Abdu closing our topic instead of giving information didn't calm anyone down. I note this is really different here.

    We need someone to give us information (even if it's only a "google translation" of what is here...).

    Here's some info: Don't use Google Translate lol that'll not help one bit.

    They had to investigate the DDoS attack while it was happened. Only by identifying it did it finally simmer down. Either the attack ended or they stopped it.
    The Community Managers are not the one who are investigating... well, at least I hope so !

    But well, Google translate is not the best way of communicating, of course... It's about to say how desperate we are :#
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Valerien wrote: »
    Was in UK was lagging like crazy last night so I logged off.

    Good to see it wasn't the hardware.

    Yeah just some lousy kids being salty at ESO.
    Hori_Loo wrote: »
    Hori_Loo wrote: »
    @ZOS_GinaBruno People is asking for answers in the French speaking forum (here) about why we didn't received any informations about all of this. We don't have any news about our regular CM for a while and @ZOS_Abdu closing our topic instead of giving information didn't calm anyone down. I note this is really different here.

    We need someone to give us information (even if it's only a "google translation" of what is here...).

    Here's some info: Don't use Google Translate lol that'll not help one bit.

    They had to investigate the DDoS attack while it was happened. Only by identifying it did it finally simmer down. Either the attack ended or they stopped it.
    The Community Managers are not the one who are investigating... well, at least I hope so !

    But well, Google translate is not the best way of communicating, of course... It's about to say how desperate we are :#

    You are correct, but it was the Community Managers and then some who were keeping us posted on the situation.
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on 30 October 2015 08:24
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  • AngryNord
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    DDoS attack... Didn't honestly expect that

    Given the amount of former players bearing grudges at Zenimax, some of us are only surprised that it took this long for something like that to happen...
    Edited by AngryNord on 30 October 2015 08:53
  • UltimaJoe777
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Given the amount of former players bearing grudges at Zenimax, some of us are only surprised that it took this long for something like that to happen...

    Thing is since gaming companies usually carry good protection someone was really watching for an opportunity to strike...
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on 30 October 2015 08:55
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  • AngryNord
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    Given the amount of former players bearing grudges at Zenimax, some of us are only surprised that it took this long for something like that to happen...

    Fixed.

    Uhm that's the exact thing I wrote?
  • UltimaJoe777
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    AngryNord wrote: »
    Given the amount of former players bearing grudges at Zenimax, some of us are only surprised that it took this long for something like that to happen...

    Fixed.

    Uhm that's the exact thing I wrote?

    Oh you fixed your post. Very well then, I shall correct mine too lol
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  • AudioVortex
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  • Belidos
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    Now back to the topic at hand. DDoS... On this game... That means someone considers ESO a threat. But who, and to what? Or is someone just so terribly bitter that they'd resort to this childishness?

    Or it just means somebody's randomly DDoS'ing game server again. Heck they might not even be targeting the game and it could be just someone picking a random IP address to screw with.

    DDoS attacks on large server farms are a fairly regularly occurrence, and most of them aren't planned or premeditated, most of them are literally someone thinking "hey let's see if this works, that IP address looks like a good target".
  • willymchilybily
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    the Mega server went down at the exact time i chose to log off last night.....am i the mega server?

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  • UltimaJoe777
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    Belidos wrote: »

    Now back to the topic at hand. DDoS... On this game... That means someone considers ESO a threat. But who, and to what? Or is someone just so terribly bitter that they'd resort to this childishness?

    Or it just means somebody's randomly DDoS'ing game server again. Heck they might not even be targeting the game and it could be just someone picking a random IP address to screw with.

    DDoS attacks on large server farms are a fairly regularly occurrence, and most of them aren't planned or premeditated, most of them are literally someone thinking "hey let's see if this works, that IP address looks like a good target".

    They could not DDoS the game server unless they know about it. Mind you, the host likely serves multiple games but that doesn't exclude the possibility ESO was the target.
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  • romanr
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    DDoS? Here is an effective way to fight it: Ask you upstream provider to stop announcing EU Megaserver's IPs anywhere but Europe. Who cares of other guys? Its an EU server.
    You will survive. I'm sure it comes from east... China etc.
  • Tors
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    A DDos costs peanuts to innitiate if you really pissed enough. Children have access to mummys and daddys credit cards and are generally stupid enough to press the button.

    With a little Google Luck they can find bot nets for hire easily.

    Therefore A data center worthy of the name has defenses in place.

    Why did it take so long to investigate this? I assume that Zenemax dont own the datacenter in the EU, hence they should not be the ones asking for information from users about what their ISPs are etc

    What the hell were the data center staff doing? And if its not manned 24/7 what kind of crappy monitoring kit are they using?

    A DDoS is pretty obvious when its going on.


    Im assuming this Data center is the same as many ive worked with. Some guy close to the company with a few quid sold them a "data center" and then filled a room with racks and a bit of cooling then put an add on jobserve for staff who know what to do with the stuff.

    Edited by Tors on 30 October 2015 09:31
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  • NinjaApacHe
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    Ok. Now I wonder: why the hell some chinese farmer should attack our european server??? What's the threat? "If you wanna play, buy immediately 1000k gold from farmerschina.ddos"..... Muhahahahahha.
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  • Belidos
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    Belidos wrote: »

    Now back to the topic at hand. DDoS... On this game... That means someone considers ESO a threat. But who, and to what? Or is someone just so terribly bitter that they'd resort to this childishness?

    Or it just means somebody's randomly DDoS'ing game server again. Heck they might not even be targeting the game and it could be just someone picking a random IP address to screw with.

    DDoS attacks on large server farms are a fairly regularly occurrence, and most of them aren't planned or premeditated, most of them are literally someone thinking "hey let's see if this works, that IP address looks like a good target".

    They could not DDoS the game server unless they know about it. Mind you, the host likely serves multiple games but that doesn't exclude the possibility ESO was the target.

    Actually they can randomly attack any server anywhere, I've looked at the coding of some of the Trojans this kind of attacker uses, most of them have an IP/port cycler in the code, they basically cycle through the numbers until they hit a combination of IP and port numbers that responds to them, then they transmit that IP/port to the rest of the Trojan network and that's when the DDoS starts. On the other side of things large data center IP's are pretty public, all they have to do is connect to that IP and sniff each of the ports one at a time until they get the correct response then hit a command to transmit the attack. A DDoS is a very basic and simple thing to do, unless you're targeting specifics you don't need to know IP's and ports, you just set the program running and it find them for you.
  • SorataArisugawa
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    Levo18 wrote: »
    Maybe someone or some people got angered by the extrem long maintance last days... Cant blame them ZOS deserved this attack...

    Thanks for your nonesense. Kep it where it comes from please.
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