kuscoe wrote: »

Cously wrote: »

It is an ONLINE game. GTFO solo crap. Be nice, be helpful. Don't be a sick, don't be selfish. You will find plenty of people to play with. MMO.

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No time for ***. The game needs everything centered around group/guild activity, else the population will go down even more. Make a fun and balanced competition enviroment, like sports, it's a breeding ground for excellency and socialization. Make even more cooperation scenarios like DSA, Trials and other dungeons, this way people will call their friends to play with them, more people, more money. Tired of see the game standing on a fence trying to meet the target audience. The game is a massive multiplayer, the point is moot, no solo play.

Ah, the friendly reminders of why ZOS cannot please anyone. PVE patch comes out, and the PVEers complain.

Nifty2g wrote: »

I understand it's pretty cool how fast this was released after imperial city zos are doing a great job right now with everything, but Orsinium is meant to be for the PvE player, so many pve guilds have been holding out for this and there has been no new 12 man trials, no 24 man trials, no new 4 man arena (your most popular content), no new 8 man arena. I feel like this is going to split up a lot of the PvE player base with the solo arena, I do think it is an amazing concept but I reckon the raiding should've came before the solo arena this update.

Is there really no new raid group play? What happens to all the raid groups now?

Just improve on that SO HM time! Hope the loading screen boss is good to you on the reforms!

I feel what this post is missing is the idea that once you finish a quest thats it. You cant do that quest again unless you have multiple characters. Thats where the concern is coming from, people what replayablitiy.
Group content with leader boards are the best at doing that in this game. A solo arena serves that ok but it separates the player base and influences the idea to not interact with other players which seems odd in a MMO. People want more content like vdsa where you can get a team together and compete against other teams across factions. Above, someone said they need more sports like things in this game -- sports like things promotes community and competition which is what makes great MMOs.
If they added leaderboards for all the vet dungeons i feel that would be enough for this dlc. I understand that this dlc is designed for solo play but there needs to be group play content added to every dlc. This is an MMO.

Nifty2g wrote: »

AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

I understand it's pretty cool how fast this was released after imperial city zos are doing a great job right now with everything, but Orsinium is meant to be for the PvE player, so many pve guilds have been holding out for this and there has been no new 12 man trials, no 24 man trials, no new 4 man arena (your most popular content), no new 8 man arena. I feel like this is going to split up a lot of the PvE player base with the solo arena, I do think it is an amazing concept but I reckon the raiding should've came before the solo arena this update.

Is there really no new raid group play? What happens to all the raid groups now?

Just improve on that SO HM time! Hope the loading screen boss is good to you on the reforms!

I don't do trials anymore since they weren't scaled

I haven't done them either in months. Potato Syndicate is basically a dead guild with a few buddies around for the chit-chat cyborz and erp. *** night has been a bit less enthralling and our selection of RP haremers has dwindled a bit. We quit trials a few months before IC, and I doubt we'll pick them up again when the next trial comes out as likely most of that guild won't return to the game. I am sure other guild will step up to it when the next one hits, though. I am also pretty sure the next DLC will have a new trial.

I think getting solo content out now is the right thing to do after IC, there are a lot of solo players in this game that will like the content and have been waiting a long time for it. The raider types have been gone for the most part for half-a-year, and most of them won't be coming back ever. They will be playing division and other games and won't want to dust this off with a 1k CP deficit against the ones that stayed for the long-haul.

I also don't agree that solo players won't be able to finish the solo arena. It has a normal and vet version, as you know, and the normal one I can't imagine anyone not being able to finish. As to the vet version, I am sure the majority of players will be able to finish it pre-nerf. This game is super-easy; if you can beat DDR you can beat this. I am sure most players will be able to finish the vet version as they can practice without excuses. I am sure it will get nerfed down the road, what content doesn't?

Artemiisia wrote: »

im looking forward to this update tremendously !!

gonna be so fun exploring a whole new world, listing to the story-line and picking flowers

I have better, more content full options to spend my money on than this weak content. It is sad they want to charge us for these DLCs when the content is so weak.

Nifty2g wrote: »

I understand it's pretty cool how fast this was released after imperial city zos are doing a great job right now with everything, but Orsinium is meant to be for the PvE player, so many pve guilds have been holding out for this and there has been no new 12 man trials, no 24 man trials, no new 4 man arena (your most popular content), no new 8 man arena. I feel like this is going to split up a lot of the PvE player base with the solo arena, I do think it is an amazing concept but I reckon the raiding should've came before the solo arena this update.

Is there really no new raid group play? What happens to all the raid groups now?

LOL, WHAT? Solo-oriented players have been waiting since LAUNCH for endgame content, whereas raiders have had Craglorn, Trials and DSA for over a YEAR.

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

It's an MMO. WHY do you all scream for solo play? You can solo 90% of this game already.

The last 10% is where all the loot and glory is, though. ESO has desperately needed endgame content for solo players since launch.

NobleNerd wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

im looking forward to this update tremendously !!

gonna be so fun exploring a whole new world, listing to the story-line and picking flowers

I have better, more content full options to spend my money on than this weak content. It is sad they want to charge us for these DLCs when the content is so weak.

Subjective opinion is subjective. The content looks great for me.

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Stickleback wrote: »

I'm extremely happy about the solo arena, and I hope it won't be as Hardcore as Nifty thinks.

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff on my own, and although I do join in the occasional dungeon/raidgroup (yes, still pop in the "old" ones now and then) I usually log on too late in the evening, when most people have finished their daily gold / silver, or I don't have the required "achievement" to link to join a PUG group.

This for me is perfect, I just pop in the arena and try and get a bit further than I did previously, tweak my gear/bar-setup a bit, and hopefully learn more about my chars more than I've done in the past 2 years since Beta. Lets hope my chars don't need to become hybrid to do it.

Are the solo arena's also any level?

Normal and Veteran versions that's all we know - like always it will be incredibly hard on PTS so players can get their I did it before the nerf achievements

@kuscoe I really hope so

There will be 3 levels of difficulty for the Maelstrom Arena, Normal, Veteran, and a 3rd to be disclosed later (hopefully when this damn PTS update hits, it said today!) It was in their latest ESO live if i recall.

3rd will be the weekly 100 maybe?

Also people, I like the solo arena it's a good concept I'm just asking for more trials :O which is coming pretty soon as mentioned in eso live so this thread is null

Nifty2g wrote: »

Gilliamtherogue wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Stickleback wrote: »

I'm extremely happy about the solo arena, and I hope it won't be as Hardcore as Nifty thinks.

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff on my own, and although I do join in the occasional dungeon/raidgroup (yes, still pop in the "old" ones now and then) I usually log on too late in the evening, when most people have finished their daily gold / silver, or I don't have the required "achievement" to link to join a PUG group.

This for me is perfect, I just pop in the arena and try and get a bit further than I did previously, tweak my gear/bar-setup a bit, and hopefully learn more about my chars more than I've done in the past 2 years since Beta. Lets hope my chars don't need to become hybrid to do it.

Are the solo arena's also any level?

Normal and Veteran versions that's all we know - like always it will be incredibly hard on PTS so players can get their I did it before the nerf achievements

@kuscoe I really hope so

There will be 3 levels of difficulty for the Maelstrom Arena, Normal, Veteran, and a 3rd to be disclosed later (hopefully when this damn PTS update hits, it said today!) It was in their latest ESO live if i recall.

3rd will be the weekly 100 maybe?

Also people, I like the solo arena it's a good concept I'm just asking for more trials :O which is coming so this thread is null

Some rando green said we'd get a trial "Shortly after or before Orsinium is launched, based on how quickly it gets finished and tuned". Looking like after, since it would have hit PTS already if it was before. I too am disappointed that we'll be stuck in HRC/AA/SO for another month or so, but I do like the chance to get some of the new sets that Orsinium will bring. Hopefully they won't be a let down compared to Essence Thief. (Not even to mention the abominations that are Tormenter, Shock Master, and Jolting....)#Wheresthestam

Nifty2g wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Craglorn already came out, so aside from 1-49, silver and gold, what is there for solo play?

I have a question for you, do you really think the solo player who loves questing is going to be able to complete a solo arena? Of course not, again it's designed for the end game players (raiders) who want raiding content.

I don't agree. I am more of a quester, and I'm looking forward to solo arena. I like not having to commit the time to a group. I will PvP for interactions with others or chat with guildies, but I want to be able to walk away from the game at any moment. I also don't want to have to care about the quality of my build for what the group needs, especially with skills being a moving target. I was adept at tanking at launch with my DK. Now, I am just confused with all the changes.

Ultimately, what they are adding is something new in the solo arena. Something that doesn't exist in any fashion yet.

It seems they are hitting their schedules now, so wait 3 more months and we will probably see the next DLC.

I PvP/PvE/Raid and Im actually excited about this new area. Its going to be a change of pace and a bit refreshing. I'll be able to put the disaster that is IC out of my mind.

I think its hilarious to see Hardcore Raiders moan and complain about 'being forced into a playstyle they dont want to take part in' and then to turn around and stick their noses in the air towards anyone that would look at Orsiniums more Solo-Friendly play and want to do it.

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Craglorn already came out, so aside from 1-49, silver and gold, what is there for solo play?

I have a question for you, do you really think the solo player who loves questing is going to be able to complete a solo arena? Of course not, again it's designed for the end game players (raiders) who want raiding content.

I don't agree. I am more of a quester, and I'm looking forward to solo arena. I like not having to commit the time to a group. I will PvP for interactions with others or chat with guildies, but I want to be able to walk away from the game at any moment. I also don't want to have to care about the quality of my build for what the group needs, especially with skills being a moving target. I was adept at tanking at launch with my DK. Now, I am just confused with all the changes.

Ultimately, what they are adding is something new in the solo arena. Something that doesn't exist in any fashion yet.

It seems they are hitting their schedules now, so wait 3 more months and we will probably see the next DLC.

Solo arena has 3 modes like gilliam said to make it fit for all types of players, I thought it would just be the typical Normal and Veteran modes. Normal you can pause at any time and veteran is the competition side with no pauses etc and a leaderboard. Too many people are coming in against, I haven't said this content is going in a bad way, I just said we need more raiding content. Which in the end is true, but it's coming. So I'm alright with it.