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What spells can you cast while stealthed and stay stealthed?
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Yakidafi✭✭✭✭✭
✭self buffs including rally.
nb mark.
maybe some more.Moons and sands shall be your guide and path.
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Ashamray✭✭✭✭✭Vigor
casts like Crystal blast, Dark Flare, Snipe and others. They break stealth after casting but not duringBoadrig, EU PC
Very Balanced
Battleground Beta Testers
Cite's Legacy
Colosseum
Imperial City frequenter
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Kobaal✭✭✭✭✭Expert / Camo Hunter
Double Take
AnnulmentKobaal - VR16 Dragon Knight - PC [NA] Azura Star
Kobaal Shadowborn - VR16 NightBlade - PC [NA] Azura Star
Kobaal Stormborn- VR3 Sorcerer - PC [NA] Azura Star
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All of the above, also
Medium armor skill Evasion /shuffle.
Magelight (both morphs and unmorphed) doesnt break stealth/sneak
Ambush and morphs (it breaks after you hit the target but not while you are teleporting/mid air unless you are cloaked and the cloak timer runs out mid-air.
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xarguideb17_ESO✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »All of the above, also
Magelight (both morphs and unmorphed) doesnt break stealth/sneak
Won't work in update 7 any more.0 -
Kobaal✭✭✭✭✭xarguideb17_ESO wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »All of the above, also
Magelight (both morphs and unmorphed) doesnt break stealth/sneak
Won't work in update 7 any more.
It does work, Magelight no longer procs might of the guild in the new update. That's all.Edited by Kobaal on 26 August 2015 16:03Kobaal - VR16 Dragon Knight - PC [NA] Azura Star
Kobaal Shadowborn - VR16 NightBlade - PC [NA] Azura Star
Kobaal Stormborn- VR3 Sorcerer - PC [NA] Azura Star
Fat Old Templar - lvl 19 Templar - PC [NA] BwB1 -
Omgwtfbbq321✭✭✭I think the light armor skill doesn't break stealth either..(dampen magic is the one I have) Could be wrong though.My ping is higher than your resource recovery...0 -
k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Sorry for the ignorant question but this has always confused me..
When I cast Hardened Ward the little eye opens then closes again, indicating that casting HW makes me visible for a second. Is that really the case, or is it a glitch and I actually remain stealthed?
It just doesn't make sense that it should bring me out of stealth.
Thanks in advance for enlightenment. :-)
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Omgwtfbbq321✭✭✭I am pretty sure Hardend Ward takes you out sneak from the moment you cast it, until the eye fully closes again. I have been caught marked and dropped because of this, I always try to hide behind something before casting.My ping is higher than your resource recovery...1
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Omgwtfbbq321 wrote: »I am pretty sure Hardend Ward takes you out sneak from the moment you cast it, until the eye fully closes again. I have been caught marked and dropped because of this, I always try to hide behind something before casting.
Hey thanks! Hmm, I was afraid of that, lol. I will continue to try to hide behind stuff while casting it too. :-D
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Interesting, thank you. I can see the Hardened Ward thing if you have a pet out. But if you don't-- no reason you should get unstealthed.
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
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While I agree with you on that, the current behaviour is consistent... the potential to affect is enough to take you out of stealth, exactly like mutagen, casted with no one around or any other heal.I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Interesting, thank you. I can see the Hardened Ward thing if you have a pet out. But if you don't-- no reason you should get unstealthed.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
Volatile armor does not take a DK out of stealth, even tho it is an AOE DOT(at least as long as you do not hit anyone with it), so there likely are more exceptions.
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Elsir✭✭✭✭A tiny side note though, if you're using skills that don't break stealth in PvP while trying to hide from the enemy, if it's a skill that makes ANY noise, that noise can still be heard. EG: The light armour skill. It "jingles" or "tingles" while it's active. That can be heard even though you're in stealth. In fact, most noises you make while in stealth can in fact be heard. For that kind of reason, I make it a point never to cast anything, buff myself, joke around with light/heavy attacking against allies, etc while in stealth because it can all be heard.Anna (AKA: Elsir)
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
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Dammit, good catch... I thought that I tested all abilities but I seem to have overlooked that one.I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
Volatile armor does not take a DK out of stealth, even tho it is an AOE DOT(at least as long as you do not hit anyone with it), so there likely are more exceptions.
Since the base ability is single target without the damaging component, maybe it depends on base ability behaviour only?
Nonetheless, @ZOS_GinaBruno , could you get Eric and his team to look at this? There should be some kind of consistency in this functionality.0 -
JDar✭✭✭✭✭I hate when people in group cast stuff while we're in stealth. We look like a damn 4th of July fireworks show. Makes me nervous.1
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭eating food takes you out of stealth also and its not spose to do that but it does, it should be reported.0 -
NGP✭✭✭I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Interesting, thank you. I can see the Hardened Ward thing if you have a pet out. But if you don't-- no reason you should get unstealthed.I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Interesting, thank you. I can see the Hardened Ward thing if you have a pet out. But if you don't-- no reason you should get unstealthed.
Cos the caster got bad memory and had to stand up looking around to see whether the pets were out or not.
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NGP✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »eating food takes you out of stealth also and its not spose to do that but it does, it should be reported.
It's logic when this only happened to Nords and Orcs.Edited by NGP on 1 September 2015 09:210 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Rally, the heal and Major Brutality buff ability from 2H does not break stealth as well..so Vigor is not the only one.
DoubleTake does not break stealth..
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
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Both of those don't ever directly affect someone other than yourself, so they are in line with my initial guestimation.whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Rally, the heal and Major Brutality buff ability from 2H does not break stealth as well..so Vigor is not the only one.
DoubleTake does not break stealth..
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Another good catch. Considering we manage to sneak up on others by crouching, it is only fitting to assume that we can control our smacking to a level that will not allow detection.dwemer_paleologist wrote: »eating food takes you out of stealth also and its not spose to do that but it does, it should be reported.Edited by Leandor on 1 September 2015 09:470 -
I always thought it was lame that the NB ability shadowed path pulls you out of stealth. Even if no one is affected by the AoE. I mean it's a Nightblade skill for Tribunal's sake.0
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Interesting, thank you. I can see the Hardened Ward thing if you have a pet out. But if you don't-- no reason you should get unstealthed.I tried to get the reasoning behind the different behaviours, and what I came up with is that everything that does not in itself have the possibility to cause damage and only influences yourself won't break stealth, with only one notable exception:
Vigor doesn't take you out of stealth, thus it is the only heal in game that can be casted stealthed.
As to some of the other buffs that may seem to fall out of that categorizing:- For hardened ward, it actually makes sense that you are taken out of stealth, since it will also affect your summoned pets. It is in line with other similar effects.
- Buffs lilke molten weapons, expert hunter and similar will have their damaging component only active, if you actively cast another ability - which then takes you out of stealth.
- Blade cloak (dual wield line) will cause reactive damage even if you do not do anything else - thus it takes you out of stealth.
Interesting, thank you. I can see the Hardened Ward thing if you have a pet out. But if you don't-- no reason you should get unstealthed.
Cos the caster got bad memory and had to stand up looking around to see whether the pets were out or not.
That 'splains it perfectly, lol.
Sidebar: I think I got my small group killed in IC once last night for casting HW and an enemy zerg several meters away happened to see me when I did so. Sorry group people. I will just try to remain vulnerable-feeling in the future. >_<
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