Skyrim was and still is the best

Pallmor · August 2015

TcIsBeastly wrote: »

Totally was

Skyrim was a great game. But like all single player games, it was also lonely. It lacked the unpredictability, spontaneity, and creativity that you see from other humans in an MMO or multiplayer game. The AI didn't come up with new and clever tactics. It didn't do unexpected things. And its sense of humor was bland.

Kuroinu · August 2015

Robbmrp wrote: »

Yes, Skyrim was the best Fantasy Single player RPG that I've played in the past 10 years.....

With that said, who ever the idiotic manager was a Bethesda that said "Oh, we made so much money on that game, lets NOT make another" should be fired. They still have no plans to make another one like that which is completely mind boggling.

You realise that once Bethesda Game Studios were done with Skyrim, they were immediately working on Fallout 4? And that they tend to go between working on such big titles one-at-a-time. Good system, TES will be back in a few years lol.

Lord Xanhorn · August 2015

Morrowind was the best cause it expected you to have and use a brain. If you killed the quest giver, then you're an idiot and your game is broken. Start over.

Skyrim you literally can not fail a quest. Can't do it. Impossible. Only way to fail at anything in Skyrim is to die. Its hand holding gone wild.

If Bethesda would make a game more in the realm of Morrowind but with updated graphics and gameplay engine, it would dethrone Morrowind easily. But they don't cause they think people will say its too hard and won't buy it.

Asherons_Call · August 2015

Sausage wrote: »

Skyrim definitely was the best fantasy of its time. I think Witcher 3 is now the King, its definitely better than Dragon Age. I actually think Witcher 3 raised the bar by alot. I still hope though ES6 is going to use ES series strenghts.

You must be a youngling. Try some older games. Once you get past the graphics you might be surprised

CapnPhoton · August 2015

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

ClearArrow wrote: »

Morrowind was far better, more immersive and had a hell of a lot more lore packed into it! Skyrim WAS good, but I didn't like how it pretty much pointed you where to go all of the time. Morrowind had no map marking system like that.

I still remember the Beth forums when Morrowind first released. It was total carnage. Why - because it couldn't have been more different from Daggerfall had they spent another 10 years making it more different.

Saying that, it was the same with Oblivion because it wasn't Morrowind and the same again with Skyrim because it wasn't Oblivion. Hmm, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.

Also there have been threads that have said ESO is not elder scrolls at all. But it is. I started with Oblivion, but still think Skyrim was better.

Masuimi · August 2015

EQ1 (pre-velious) -> Dark Souls -> Morrowind -> Ninja Gaiden 2 (very hard difficulty) -> Dark Souls 2 -> Kotor -> Other stuff

Too many games are just way too easy nowadays. You complainers ruined the industry. Thank god some games don't cave to the whiners.

RedTalon · August 2015

Elder scrolls 2 daggerfall was the biggest and bests

DenMoria · August 2015

IMO it's really not a fair comparison.

I love Skyrim (am playing it now) and am going to purchase Fallout 3 and New Vegas this weekend in preparation for Fallout 4 coming out (never played Fallouts).

ESO is a great game if you're an MMOer or enjoy PvP. I'm not either of those things, but ESO can let me dip my toe in when I need to and the customization is great.

As with any TES game, there are flaws to both of them (as there were with Oblivion), but that doesn't mean any of them are better than the others.

Me: I prefer Bethesda's approach more than Zen's, but, so many people enjoy ESO, I can't fault them for giving it their best shot. Sure it may not have been a bullseye, but, who knows what the future holds.

Flameheart · August 2015

SkylarkAU wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yHoSvrTss

Oh my god...I saw billions of videos concerning Skyrim and mods, how was it possible to miss this one ?

Kalfis · August 2015

If your game needs to be heavily modded to be good.

Your game sucks.

That is Skyrim in a nutshell.

Enteum · August 2015

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Morrowind was the best cause it expected you to have and use a brain. If you killed the quest giver, then you're an idiot and your game is broken. Start over.

Skyrim you literally can not fail a quest. Can't do it. Impossible. Only way to fail at anything in Skyrim is to die. Its hand holding gone wild.

If Bethesda would make a game more in the realm of Morrowind but with updated graphics and gameplay engine, it would dethrone Morrowind easily. But they don't cause they think people will say its too hard and won't buy it.

Morrowind: Remastered....please...I'll do....anything!

Faulgor · August 2015

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Morrowind was the best cause it expected you to have and use a brain. If you killed the quest giver, then you're an idiot and your game is broken. Start over.

Skyrim you literally can not fail a quest. Can't do it. Impossible. Only way to fail at anything in Skyrim is to die. Its hand holding gone wild.

If Bethesda would make a game more in the realm of Morrowind but with updated graphics and gameplay engine, it would dethrone Morrowind easily. But they don't cause they think people will say its too hard and won't buy it.

That's because at the time the studio was in a lot of trouble. Morrowind was close to being their last chance, and that gives you a lot of freedom compared to developing for a huge and successful IP where you have to play it safer so not to jeopardize the investments. Of course I'm not only talking about gameplay mechanics here, but the whole alien world. Probably the best parts of the lore were established during the development of Redguard and Morrowind.

So, I don't think we will see anything like Morrowind again. It's just too risky. The second people realize their game doesn't have questmarkers they will throw their console out of the window.

Zusia211 · August 2015

I would love to see them redo all the games or remaster them for the current gen consoles. I started the series at Oblivion so really only played 2 so obviously Skyrim was the best for me. I did love Oblivion though and think no one mentions it. I thought it had some better overall quests than skyrim, but Skyrim just felt overall better and just better looking everything.

DenMoria · August 2015

Kalfis wrote: »

If your game needs to be heavily modded to be good.

Your game sucks.

That is Skyrim in a nutshell.

That seems a bit harsh. I have Skyrim both on a PC and on the PS3 and, to be honest, since I'm a casual gamer, I actually prefer it on the PS3. I play games a diversion, not as a social experiment, a way to socialize or as a time suck.

Hundreds of thousands of people play Skyrim, a huge number of them simply play it on their consoles without mods or anything done to them and they still play it obsessively after all these years.

Sure, Skyrim is fantastic with mods, but it's also great without them. Even with the glitches and weirdness, it's still a great game.

It's not a slam against ESO at all. At heart I'm a single player RPGer. ESO simply doesn't have the appeal, but it's a great way to round out my collection and a way to experiment with the MMO genre.

Skyrim is simply the best of the last generation of consoles Single-player Sword & Sorcery RPG's IMO. Don't get me wrong - I still love the Dragon Age series and Dragon's Dogma as well, but Skyrim will always be my love (followed closely by Oblivion). (Confidentially: I still love Lord of the Rings: War in the North and still play it too!).

VilhelmValhalla4 · August 2015

Its really hard to say which Elder Scrolls game is the best, because each one is special for a reason.

Oblivion was my first, and the feeling of unlimited adventure and a sense of permanency in the world was something I had never seen before in gaming.

I then bought Morrowind, and despite its aged graphics and outdated features, it is still one of the few games that has such a unique setting. The combination of the familiar Imperial presence and alien Dunmer culture was really great.

Skyrim, for all its criticisms, is a really good game. It was almost like Oblivion 2.0, and though it "dumbed down" in some areas, it was mind-blowing for its time.

ESO lacks a lot of what makes all Elder Scrolls Games good, and that is a concrete world with permanent changes. Everything feels so static. NPCs just meander in the same spots day-in day-out, the Coldharbor situation never gets better, and you're stuck in an "alliance zone" because PVP hinges on forcing players into factions and blocking off content. The illusion of a sprawling world from the single player games is entirely lost, which is ironic, because most of Tamriel is in the game, but not free to explore.

Tan9oSuccka · August 2015

I love all of them equally.

Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim and ESO have been excellent games with infinite replay value.

I missed the earlier titles due to the lack of a decent PC.

Moonscythe · August 2015

Morrowind was awesome but too dark. I like quest markers because i get lost but it is much better to have fast travel make sense as well. Morrowind gave us some get out of jail free cards in the form of Interventions and we could use a Mark if we really, truly needed to go from point A to point B immediately but otherwise you had to use boats or mages or Silt Striders (let's hear it for silt striders!).

As for consequences, there is nothing quite like the sinking feeling when you come over a hill in the Ashlands, see a camp and decide to just take them out before they see you only to have that "The threads of prophecy have been broken" notice and know that the camp was the one you were looking for all along and now it's time to reload a save which is hopefully not too far back.

I'm not sure why anyone would think Skyrim was unplayable on a console unless you just can't do without changing the game to something else with add-ons and mods. I played for two years and way too many hundreds of hours on the 360 quite happily. Yes, the dragon fights got old and riding a dragon was not nearly as much fun as it should have been but still, there was a lot to do if you got off the beaten path and just wandered the world. I adored getting on a horse and riding all the way around Skyrim through the night and day just looking at the world.

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

one things true about the big 3 TES games is that they can all be made better/more modern looking with great mods (although skyrim is a pain especially with workshop only mods) Even Daggerfall has some minor mods. you do not want to see the length of my mod lists.

BabeestorGor · August 2015

Kalfis wrote: »

If your game needs to be heavily modded to be good.

Your game sucks.

That is Skyrim in a nutshell.

Total misunderstanding of what mods do for a game.
Different people want different things from a game. Mods allow them to tailor the game to their taste.
Game too easy? Ran out of things to do? Want more choices of weapons and armour?
Theres a mod for all of those things and many more.

VilhelmValhalla4 · August 2015

I've gone back to playing on console since my PC stopped working, and at first I was nervous because of the notion that these games are "unplayable" without mods. But after installing the games to the hard-drive so they'd run faster, I remembered why I loved them so much in the first place.

Violynne · August 2015

Having played Oblivion, Skyrim, and ESO, all I can say is there's a reason why I look for titles stamped "Bethesda".

I enjoy all three games for what they deliver.

(psst: I still find Oblivion the best - huge, challenging, and I miss taking down Oblivion gates)

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

Morrowind for me, definitely. Played it for years, was so amazed when it first came out.
Now I'm patiently waiting for Skywind to come out because i want to play Morrowind, but I'm guilty of being graphics-spoilt.
I keep following the Skywind development every step of the way and even donated some cash to keep it going and so far I'm very impressed. Those guys should be hired by bethesda/zos as world designers as they are far more professional than actual employees seem to be.
Can't wait to play Morrowind with modern graphics, nostalgia rose tint with eye-candy addon, huzzah!

P.S. For those interested, read this: https://tesrenewal.com/skywind-faq

@Egonieser What about morrowind sound and graphics overhaul MGSO? that makes it look...wow, the godrays are better than THIS game. best yet it is still morrowind not...skyrim

IOUAT · August 2015

gonna have to agree.. but if skyrim comes to the xbox one then that would be awesome and i would most definately be playing

Tholian1 · August 2015

Mugetsu wrote: »

gonna have to agree.. but if skyrim comes to the xbox one then that would be awesome and i would most definately be playing

Skyrim is the only reason why I haven't upgraded from the 360 to the XB1.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · August 2015

I miss the snowstorms in Skyrim.

purple-magicb16_ESO · August 2015

SkylarkAU wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yHoSvrTss

Awesome! Thomas the Tank Engine! Rite up there with Dora the Destroyer and Furious George.

Minnesinger · August 2015

Come on, at the time of its publication Morrowind was the best ever game. Still is in my opinion with its old graphics.

EQBallzz · August 2015

ClearArrow wrote: »

@Truewan I haven't heard of that Mod, will give it a go!

Elder Scrolls games weren't meant to be easy anyway! If anyone played The Elder Scrolls 1: ARENA you will remember how horrendously difficult it was to get out that first dungeon!

Got to love a challenge!

I haven't played all the ES games but I did play Morrowind forward. I don't think I would call any of them difficult (maybe Morrowind was a bit harder). Oblivion and Skyrim were fairly easy. The only difficulty is early on when you have no gear or skills. Once you get a bit of both even the dragons became largely trivial (especially if you played with an enchanted bow). By the time you get 30 levels you are so overpowered you can dominate the large majority of encounters even though the difficulty scales. I think the veteran areas of ESO at launch was much more difficult than Skyrim was.

RazielSR · August 2015

Im playing TES games since Daggerfall. Thousands of hours between all of them. Yes, its true that Skyrim vanilla is not as rpg as Oblivion and of course not like Morrowind. But you can mod the game and transform it into something better than Morrowind.

Skyrim is the best TES for me too. The emotions and all that I've lived in Skyrim is something unique that I've never experienced in a videogame.

ESO feels like a bad joke compared to TES games anyway.

Scyantific · August 2015

Two things from reading the OP:

-OP is a console player.
-OP has never played Morrowind.