Skyrim was and still is the best

zornyan · August 2015

It's the way gaming has gone nowdays, kids want everything NOW! say what you want but its true.

Take an mmorpg I used to play called anarchy online. Max level was 200, it took me 4 months of grinding to get that (zero questing after 100)

1-100 is a month, level like 189-190 take about 2-3days of grinding each. They then added another 20, it took the first person to do level 219-220 a MONTH of grinding.

This game is still popular, 14 odd years on, with millions of active users.

Nothing was handed to you in older games, you had to work your bloody arse off to get to endgame gear.

Hell final fantasy 7, took my about 115 hours to get everything in the game (gold chocobo and Knights of the round table anyone)

Ff8 took me about 80, then about 50 for ff9,

Ffx then went down to about 40 for a full playthrough.

Each game gets easier and easier, because kids like to moan it takes too long, they don't want to dedicate time to something, they want to finish and move on

NDwarf · August 2015

Skyrim is a legend. I had 400+ hours of playtime over the years.

Buddy of mine bought ESO on Ps4 expecting it to be Skyrim online. He never made it past level 30. Only 10.8% of players on Ps4 have the "Level 50" trophy.

A lot of console players were wanting a multiplayer Skyrim. They got ESO instead and it shows. 1 out of 10 make it past 50.

----> Not saying ESO is a bad game. I personally wanted a multiplayer Skyrim type co-op rpg set in Elder Scolls but we got ESO. The story is set 1000 years in the past. I'd rather see the continuation of what happened after the events in Skyrim. ESO is to Elder Scrolls what Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is to Star Wars. I'd rather see what happened to Luke and events after the movies then 3000 years before.

jeevin · August 2015

ESO lost way too much Elder Scrolls in it's aim to separate player from wallet. Elder Scrolls does seem to water down every new game, but seriously, ESO is barely an Elder Scrolls game in all but aesthetics. Game play and freedom we know and love from this franchise blows chunks in this game
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Flameheart · August 2015

NDwarf wrote: »

Skyrim is a legend. I had 400+ hours of playtime over the years.

Buddy of mine bought ESO on Ps4 expecting it to be Skyrim online. He never made it past level 30. Only 10.8% of players on Ps4 have the "Level 50" trophy.

A lot of console players were wanting a multiplayer Skyrim. They got ESO instead and it shows. 1 out of 10 make it past 50.

----> Not saying ESO is a bad game. I personally wanted a multiplayer Skyrim type co-op rpg set in Elder Scolls but we got ESO. The story is set 1000 years in the past. I'd rather see the continuation of what happened after the events in Skyrim. ESO is to Elder Scrolls what Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic is to Star Wars. I'd rather see what happened to Luke and events after the movies then 3000 years before.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/67038/

Some knowledge about modding you should have though. Even "just" installing mods for Skyrim is not that easy sometimes.

Justice31st · August 2015

TcIsBeastly wrote: »

Totally was

Hmm, I never thought about it that way before. You make a very interesting and captivating point. I will have to agree with your post.

Sausage · August 2015

Skyrim definitely was the best fantasy of its time. I think Witcher 3 is now the King, its definitely better than Dragon Age. I actually think Witcher 3 raised the bar by alot. I still hope though ES6 is going to use ES series strenghts.

Greatsword · August 2015

zornyan wrote: »

It's the way gaming has gone nowdays, kids want everything NOW! say what you want but its true.

Take an mmorpg I used to play called anarchy online. Max level was 200, it took me 4 months of grinding to get that (zero questing after 100)

1-100 is a month, level like 189-190 take about 2-3days of grinding each. They then added another 20, it took the first person to do level 219-220 a MONTH of grinding.

This game is still popular, 14 odd years on, with millions of active users.

TIL Anarchy Online has millions of active users.

Volkodav · August 2015

Morrowind stole my heart and still has it. :}
It's the most amazing game I have ever played.And no,it isnt an MMO,but everyone wanted it to be.Someone even made a mod to attempt to allow other players play with you,but it was way too buggy to work.People love it so much that it still has an active community modding it.I just added a few mods to it last week.Yup.I still play it every time the ESO server is down.Like right now it's down doing mintenance. And when I leave here,I'll head to my house in Vvardenfell. Then I'll go get in a fight with a Cliff Racer or two or three. XD.
It was and always will be home to me.
(I can still hear the sound of Cliff Racers as they descend upon you.My favorite MW sound.)

zornyan · August 2015

It does as far as I'm aware? They're still releasing content and have a hugely active playerbase, cities are still massively populated.my point is, MMO's especially are based around a long grind, hell didn't world of warcraft give a special achievement/gear to people that had 10+ years GAME time?!?

They aren't really for a casual, destiny has tried it, hell with the new dlc everyone gets to automatically be level 25! Gear is pointless and handed out weekly, missions/strikes/raids are a 20 minute (or much less) affair.

Someone that has a years playtime has zero advantages over a new player etc.(infact new players get buffs etc that veterans don't)

And guess what? A game that had 20 million players lost 15 million of them in 2 months, with about 1 million left after 9 months.

It's literially fallen flat on its face, as a "trying to be an mmofps but not, yet having MMO grinding without the rewards"

Hell they announced with the new dlc ALL of the gear we spent collecting has now become irrelevant, won't be worthwhile in pvp or pve....

Woeler · August 2015

You cannot compare an MMO and a single player game. No, this ain't skyrim online, what did you expect?

Rex-Umbra · August 2015

False Skyrim sucked compared to Oblivion and Oblivion sucked compared to Morrowwind and so on.

Egonieser · August 2015

Morrowind for me, definitely. Played it for years, was so amazed when it first came out.
Now I'm patiently waiting for Skywind to come out because i want to play Morrowind, but I'm guilty of being graphics-spoilt.
I keep following the Skywind development every step of the way and even donated some cash to keep it going and so far I'm very impressed. Those guys should be hired by bethesda/zos as world designers as they are far more professional than actual employees seem to be.
Can't wait to play Morrowind with modern graphics, nostalgia rose tint with eye-candy addon, huzzah!

P.S. For those interested, read this: https://tesrenewal.com/skywind-faq

BlackEar · August 2015

iord_stryker wrote: »

Tl,dr
Morrowind>skyrim

The nostalgia has blinded you.

Skyrim was better in many ways. Morrowind was great for its time. Skyrim, overall, was better.

willymchilybily · August 2015

only played skyrim, but loved it. Particularlly the animations, whether magic bow or melee. Though for me bow animations were most rewarding, when you aimed first person and tracked the arrow. particularly because the arrow didnt fly straight like the magicka projectiles, they went up a bit before they drop. Getting some one in the face long distance with the bow and seeing the projectile fly, and having to conserve the "good arrows" for those harder enemies. loved it all.

But i knew this was going to be an MMO so no biggy, i like a lot of it but like most have some aspects i dont like. mostly VRs

McGamer · August 2015

OP is comparing a single player game to a MMO...? Some people will never learn the difference I guess.

Volkodav · August 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

Morrowind for me, definitely. Played it for years, was so amazed when it first came out.
Now I'm patiently waiting for Skywind to come out because i want to play Morrowind, but I'm guilty of being graphics-spoilt.
I keep following the Skywind development every step of the way and even donated some cash to keep it going and so far I'm very impressed. Those guys should be hired by bethesda/zos as world designers as they are far more professional than actual employees seem to be.
Can't wait to play Morrowind with modern graphics, nostalgia rose tint with eye-candy addon, huzzah!

P.S. For those interested, read this: https://tesrenewal.com/skywind-faq

I just went to your link,but the mod isnt being worked on it seems,sadly.

KiraTsukasa · August 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4QUFfYA0wA

Yep, Skyrim was definitely the best.

Sallington · August 2015

Vanilla skyrim is a watered-down mockery of the elder scrolls series. However, with mods it became pretty fantastic.

Morrowind is the greatest RPG ever made.

BuggeX · August 2015

Oblivion

Tommy_valkyria · August 2015

Oblivion > Skyrim

dlepi24 · August 2015

Cool? You're comparing a single-player RPG to an MMO, though.

Psychobunni · August 2015

TcIsBeastly wrote: »

Totally was

Opinions. I hated Skyrim before ESO. Now I wish it was never even made.

13igTyme · August 2015

SkylarkAU wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yHoSvrTss

OMG that was golden.

Kuroinu · August 2015

SkylarkAU wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6yHoSvrTss

LOL, I laughed tears.

Volkodav · August 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

Morrowind for me, definitely. Played it for years, was so amazed when it first came out.
Now I'm patiently waiting for Skywind to come out because i want to play Morrowind, but I'm guilty of being graphics-spoilt.
I keep following the Skywind development every step of the way and even donated some cash to keep it going and so far I'm very impressed. Those guys should be hired by bethesda/zos as world designers as they are far more professional than actual employees seem to be.
Can't wait to play Morrowind with modern graphics, nostalgia rose tint with eye-candy addon, huzzah!

P.S. For those interested, read this: https://tesrenewal.com/skywind-faq

I just went to your link,but the mod isnt being worked on it seems,sadly.

Asherons_Call · August 2015

Skyrim was dumbed down. Oblivion and morrowind >

Robbmrp · August 2015

Yes, Skyrim was the best Fantasy Single player RPG that I've played in the past 10 years.....

With that said, who ever the idiotic manager was a Bethesda that said "Oh, we made so much money on that game, lets NOT make another" should be fired. They still have no plans to make another one like that which is completely mind boggling.

TortUred_mAlice · August 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

Skyrim. No waterwalking spell^, no waterbreathing*,

^ http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Potion_of_Waterwalking and http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Ahzidal's_Boots_of_Waterwalking

* http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Waterbreathing_(Skyrim)

Okay, so there's no spell, big deal, you can walk on water for as long as you want via the boots and temporarily via potion.

AngryNord · August 2015

Robbmrp wrote: »

Yes, Skyrim was the best Fantasy Single player RPG that I've played in the past 10 years.....

With that said, who ever the idiotic manager was a Bethesda that said "Oh, we made so much money on that game, lets NOT make another" should be fired. They still have no plans to make another one like that which is completely mind boggling.

Fallout 4

BabeestorGor · August 2015

Prof_Bawbag wrote: »

Something i have never understood is why people frown upon others who fast travel in single player games and complain about its implementation. Why would people even care what others do and use in a SP game? Why would people even care about a fast travel system that is entirely optional? Is it because some of you lack self control, that because you can FT, you do FT and then blame others for your lack of self control? It's how it comes across. After all, you will never technically see what others do in a SP. How I play any given SP game will never impact on anyone else's game and vice versa.

Gaming has evolved and will always evolve. So I see no issue with certain mechanics being implemented. Some i use, some I don't. Some TES fans say TES began going downhill with Morrowind, whilst others state it's the pinnacle of the series thus far. Who's right? Vanilla Morrowind had it's issues, just as every TES game thereafter has their respective issues.

The trouble was that fast travel Oblivion style completely replaced the variety of in-game methods of fast travel MW had. The game was designed on the assumption that you would use first travel. Try doing the Mages Guild apprenticeship quests without using fast travel. You'll be 20th level+ before you finish them just from walking across most of the map. At least Skyrim added in fast travel by boat and carriege as well as just clicking at a point on the map and appearing there.
Best of the series a matter of opinion but MW is my favourite for the original setting. If I'd started playing the series with Oblivion I doubt I'd have become a fan.