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PTS Patch Notes v1.3.1

  • kijima
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    Poor old NB's

    I'd love to see the stats of what character uses the most amount of soul gems on rezzing, just a shot in the dark here but I'd wage NB's were be out in front by a country mile.
    Been here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...

    A'marta - AD Sorc Tank
    Kijima - AD DK Derps
    Annure - AD NB Derps
    Boom Crash Opera - AD Sorc DPS

  • Ser Lobo
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    kijima wrote: »
    Poor old NB's

    I'd love to see the stats of what character uses the most amount of soul gems on rezzing, just a shot in the dark here but I'd wage NB's were be out in front by a country mile.

    For my archer build, if a mob hits me, I've generally done something terribly wrong. Or I'm fighting a lightning mage.
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    Gral. Mountain Terror. Barbarian, marauder, murderer. Nightblade.
    Na'Djin. Knight-Blade. Knight, vanguard, defender. Nightblade.

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    Ruze is a veteran of the PC Beta, lived through the year one drought, survived the buy-to-play conversion, and has stepped foot in the hells known as Craglorn. He mained a nightlbade when nightblades weren't good, and has never worn a robe. He converted from PC during the console betas, and hasn't regretted it a moment since.

    He'd rank ESO:TU (in it's current state) a 4.8 out of 5, loving the game almost entirely.

    This is an multiplayer game. I should be able to log in, join a dungeon, join a battleground, queue for a dolmen or world boss or delve, teleport in, play for 20 minutes, and not worry about getting kicked, failing to join, having perfect voice coms, or being unable to complete content because someone's lagging behind. Group Finder and matchmaking is broken. Take a note from Destiny and build a system that allows from drop-in/drop-out functionality and quick play.
  • Kego
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    I don't think that the truth hurts ZOS, even their Marketing put a a video introduction of a Veteran Dungeon with 1 Tank SnB and 2 DDs, 1 Healer in Light Armor with Staffs.
    Edited by Kego on 29 July 2014 06:51
  • Darkonflare15
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    Brandoid wrote: »
    They should not have undone the change to Willow's and Twilight's.

    Everyone who bitched because they would have to use new gear, thinking that those sets had become useless simply did not want to adopt a new style of play or work for new, better, sets. It's understandable to some degree that they would be frustrated, but the changes made sense, added to the game, and the people who were just using it for a measly 10% or less crit would not have noticed a drop is dps. If anything they would have higher because higher soft cap AND have respectable regens for added sustain.

    Just because you said that you would have made those three pieces from each set yellow for the traits that were not the focus of the sets doesn't make it the reason anybody used those sets. I am very disappointed ZOS caved to people would would rather have some convenience over something better for the game. You people make me sick.

    Edit: By "you people" I mean people that cried and posted non stop about how they way they play was in jeopardy, when it really wasn't .

    The butthurt about 'changing' the sets non-unique bonuses is like whining over losing +max magicka 3piece bonus when the set gives some other unique 5piece bonus.
    The sets were changed to compliment their 5piece bonues as they should have from the beginning and now they hardly make sense and people won't bother going for the bonus that was their focus.
    Aenthel wrote: »
    I can understand the deal with the Willow's Path... to a degree... but man, Twilight was a TANK set... hence the increased healing received... with all the Health bonus it had... and now it is a complete steaming pile of manure and a joke for any Tank build because we get spell crit and magicka... on a tank set... seriously, wth? It is not just more added bonus for casters... and yet again screwing any Tank that is not in a dress.
    It had spell crit before as the "final" bonus. It wasn't a tanking set.

    Willow's had resource regeneration for it's "final bonus". It wasn't a dps set.

    No it is nothing wrong with them changing the set. Most people do not seem to understand that the whole point they they are doing this. They are trying to have more options when building an armor set. I could care less about the 5th set bonuses. I could make a viable set from most of the two set bonuses of each armor set. I could have up to 2+2+2+2 if I am using a two handed weapon or a 2+2+2+3 set if I had a dual wield or sword and shield. An example I could have the 2 set bonuses from Death, Silence,Ashen,Hunding to form a set that has 157 armor, 78 max stamina,118 max health,and 4% weapon crit. If I am 9 piece set I could have one extra item on the ashen set to get 14 weapon damage added to the above bonuses. This is still a valuable set even though I am not using all of one set. You have think about the possibilities. You do not have the five set bonuses to be powerful.
  • heyguyslol
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    I think that ZOS by reverting Willow and Twilight is showing that they dont have balls for making this work. Zos caved again because lot of magic people showed concern for their quality of life while ZOS is neglecting stamina builds from start and dont care about our comfort and efficiency. Plain and simple - dont guys even try to explain your behaviour providing semi-logical explanation coz u simply cant be successful at it - this is just about balls.
    ZOS just look at your tournament during Quakecon. Do u see ? Are u happy with fact that all competitors are wearing robes and using sticks ? Is that it ? All in all - way u handle stamina/magic balance is JOKE. Your way of handling things is purely discriminatory and if this project of yours is not meeting your expectations - u dont need to be creative to find who is to blame. U dropped the ball once again.

    I do agree that stam builds need to be balanced with magicka builds. One of the problems I see here on all these threads is that stam players have all this hate against magicka players when they really should not. The magicka players are not the devs they didn't make the game. If you want to express your distaste, aim it at the devs but do so in a mature manner. Devs are not going to consider or bother reading posts that sound un-educated/troll. Speak to them as human beings, offer suggestions, and be patient.

    Secondly you also have to consider that the devs are taking these changes very slowly to prevent serious unbalancing in the game which I applaud, respect, and agree with. If Zos was like blizzard they would break magicka players and make stam players gods. Then players would qq and a few months later tip the scales again and continue a vicious cycle of unbalanced mechanics. Zos doesn't want to make this mistake, its a waste of time, money, and just pisses off the player base even more as a whole.

    I'm a magicka player but I too would like to see stam builds get balanced so that I could play a stam build as an alternative. Right now I can play as stam but it is not as efficient as playing a magicka build. I look forward to the balancing between both provided they don't break magicka builds to do it.
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  • Nightreaver
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    I really hope there will be a 1.3.2 before this goes live. We'll see if they are listening to feedback or biased whines from what they put in it.
    Feedback: informative, well-thought out opinion that agrees with your own
    Biased whine: any opinion that disagrees with your own
    Everyone who bitched because they would have to use new gear, thinking that those sets had become useless simply did not want to adopt a new style of play or work for new, better, sets.

    Um, aren't you doing exactly the same thing? So when other people complained about the changes it was called bitching but when you complain about changes it's called what?
    By "you people" I mean people that cried and posted non stop about how they way they play was in jeopardy, when it really wasn't .

    Let me be the first then to welcome you to the "you people" crowd

    By reverting the changes the Crafting sets would be left with ONE set that provided Spell Crit vs. SIX that provided Weapon Crit. And the one set that did provide Spell Crit favored physical DPS. Now if Crit really isn't that important then why include Weapon Crit in six different sets? Now imagine the uproar if there were six sets that included Spell Crit and the only one to include Weapon Crit was in a set that favored Magicka.

    I agree that Willows made a nice regen set. But if not Willows then what other Crafting sets would you include Spell Crit in that people wouldn't complain just as loudly. There needed to be more than just one Crafting set that actually favored Magicka DPS to balance with all the Crafting sets that favored Physical DPS. That and provide a 2nd set to create a complete armor set.
    Edited by Nightreaver on 8 August 2014 19:23
    If they ever create a Legendary recipe it better contain bacon as one of the ingredients. I'm just sayin'.
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