The problem really isn't that the pvp zone is persistent, it's that there are no real permanent rewards or sense of progression that goes with it.
Implement Realm (Alliance) Abilities now please!
Talketzanto wrote: »You still have not explained why people who want arena should not have them.....Thats like saying "you play a templar, so that ability should not be fixed because I don't play one".......
For two reasons:
- the game has not been designed to be an arena pvp game, the balance is much different
- arena pvp sucks
I haven't said anything about unsubbing.You are acting like they should release arenas tomorrow or else you and all the "real" pvpers will unsub.
Like you just realized there arent arenas in TESO.
Heck, we didnt know it for months... did we?
I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
Its ok i dual wield machetes as a work (gardener).
JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
Says the guy with a GW2 logo as a profile pic..
AoC is known as a failure MMO and DAOC did good at it's time but that is over a decade ago and the MMO market has changed. .JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
DAOC has and will always be the standard that people will hold newer MMos too in terms of fun PvP. The only carrot on a stick is Realm Points for abilities.
People played because it was fun. If you are so interested in Arenas play another game that has them. Stop whining here or PvDooring like you probably do.
JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »AoC is known as a failure MMO and DAOC did good at it's time but that is over a decade ago and the MMO market has changed. .JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
DAOC has and will always be the standard that people will hold newer MMos too in terms of fun PvP. The only carrot on a stick is Realm Points for abilities.
People played because it was fun. If you are so interested in Arenas play another game that has them. Stop whining here or PvDooring like you probably do.
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
Says the guy with a GW2 logo as a profile pic..
Are you serious? It is the Ebonheart Pact logo directly from the forums???
I am not even sure how to respond to this stupidity. Another epic PvDoor'er probably.
I am shocked you guys want Arenas because it will be glaringly obvious how BAD you are at the game if you don't even know what the other factions logos look like.
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
Says the guy with a GW2 logo as a profile pic..
Are you serious? It is the Ebonheart Pact logo directly from the forums???
I am not even sure how to respond to this stupidity. Another epic PvDoor'er probably.
I am shocked you guys want Arenas because it will be glaringly obvious how BAD you are at the game if you don't even know what the other factions logos look like.
JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »AoC is known as a failure MMO and DAOC did good at it's time but that is over a decade ago and the MMO market has changed. .JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
DAOC has and will always be the standard that people will hold newer MMos too in terms of fun PvP. The only carrot on a stick is Realm Points for abilities.
People played because it was fun. If you are so interested in Arenas play another game that has them. Stop whining here or PvDooring like you probably do.
Yeah because people like you claiming to be "Real PvPers" started whining on every forum since then. The MMO population has gone so far downhill it is sad. The sheer idiocy of people is dumfounding at time.
So Far ESO has been close in terms of DAOC RvR enjoyment. Right now the lag and some other issues are there but in a month or two that will be fixed up.
Camelot Unchained is around the corner as well.
AoC was a failure and I didn't even play it till max level so I have no idea the scope of PvP there.
To claim a structured, goal oriented, organized/controlled fight is "real pvp" is absurd.
Open World is the only thing that can be considered "Real PvP" because you just have NO idea what is going to happen. The amount of variables is too high to account for. That is not the arena.
I am not saying there shouldn't be an Arena but the first campaign isn't even over yet.
Take a deep breath.
Ruddertail wrote: »Aren't ranks, skillpoints, titles and alliance cash that you can buy equipment with enough "carrots"?
Aside from the rewards successfully besieging a defended castle feels pretty epic in itself.
JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »AoC is known as a failure MMO and DAOC did good at it's time but that is over a decade ago and the MMO market has changed. .JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »I'm sorry did I have to mention a dirt old MMO to make a point?LoL you ask me if im new to MMOs and then mention Swtor.
How new are you?
Get over it there isnt any arena and if there is going to be one, its not going to be any soon.
SWTOR FFXIV GW2 and etc are doing incredibly better then DAOC and AoC.
Soon is also a opinion I'm not expecting arenas asap next two updates will be for the PvE community and we probably won't get imperial city till fall or winter but after that hopefully duels and competitive PvP will be added.
You just compared MMOs that are a decade old to ones released in the last 3 years.
FFXIV is not real PvP. GW2 is an embarrassment and SWTOR is a JOKE as well.
Any credibility you might have been searching for was lost right there.
DAOC has and will always be the standard that people will hold newer MMos too in terms of fun PvP. The only carrot on a stick is Realm Points for abilities.
People played because it was fun. If you are so interested in Arenas play another game that has them. Stop whining here or PvDooring like you probably do.
Yeah because people like you claiming to be "Real PvPers" started whining on every forum since then. The MMO population has gone so far downhill it is sad. The sheer idiocy of people is dumfounding at time.
So Far ESO has been close in terms of DAOC RvR enjoyment. Right now the lag and some other issues are there but in a month or two that will be fixed up.
Camelot Unchained is around the corner as well.
AoC was a failure and I didn't even play it till max level so I have no idea the scope of PvP there.
To claim a structured, goal oriented, organized/controlled fight is "real pvp" is absurd.
Open World is the only thing that can be considered "Real PvP" because you just have NO idea what is going to happen. The amount of variables is too high to account for. That is not the arena.
I am not saying there shouldn't be an Arena but the first campaign isn't even over yet.
Take a deep breath.
Well they call Cyrodill AvA not PvP for a reason because it isn't.
Ruddertail wrote: »Aren't ranks, skillpoints, titles and alliance cash that you can buy equipment with enough "carrots"?
Aside from the rewards successfully besieging a defended castle feels pretty epic in itself.
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »Says the guy who prefers zerg vs zerg combat..
jvargas150_ESO wrote: »Says the guy who prefers zerg vs zerg combat..
Says the guy who is playing a "zerg vs zerg" PvP game.
You actually PAID AND SUBSCRIBED for it.
If you didn't feel stupid before not knowing the difference between the GW2 logo and Ebonheart Pact then it should be sinking in right about now...
My suggestion is stop cause now its both in the game and on the forums your taking a beating.