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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861
6man Zerg Farming
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lao✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.
and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.
ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso
im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.
Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.
As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..
now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....
I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.
thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.
its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi
and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups
Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.
Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.
Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist
Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.
Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.
Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.
There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.
As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.
ok let me correct some of that crap u just typed.
1) WL got nerfed, no1 runs that anymore. most ppl run 3 casters 2 tanks. usually no BD in there either tho BD works. its just not the preferred style atm.
2) ur correct about alb setups. well more or less atleast. they also run hybrid but sorc caba theurg is in there.
3) elds? ru kidding me? no1 runs eld anymore. mentalist can do almost everything an eld can do nowadays + has cm, heals and a pet. they even have ns now.
4) as i said rr2 vs rr12 doesnt mean anything. whenever NA and EU met on even ground NA got destroyed. freeshards are a good example for this. in 10 years of shard history there have been plenty of NA groups that considered themself good and not one, not a single one has ever been on par with the EU groups. neither can i remember a single NA group that ever been a factor on EU live.
5) really, im not even gonna discuss the zerg farming thing anymore. if u think it was easier in DAoC thats simply due to the fact that u a) dont really understand the game and b) only ever fought awful players on your B-league server.
1. Warlocks got nerfed recently, I'm not sure on them...People still run BD's/Runnie or 2 Runnies, never 3 casters/2 tanks in a Midgard Group. Simply because 2 Healers/1 Skald/1 Shaman/2 Casters/2 Melee Works better. 3 Casters works better for Alb Groups.
2. Very few alb groups ran the Hybrid Setup, Cause their Caster setups were so damn good...when we did our Alb group we ran 3 Theurgist Group...which was just silliness.
3. Unless Mentalist got Disease recently, You're going to be running an Eld, though a Valewalker can fill that position also.
4. Lol, the time i'm talking about, No one was RR12...In the few cases of Freeshards, the Euro groups stood no better chance against US groups either. Even in the dumbed down version of the game you guys didn't amaze me.
5. I know DAOC zerg farming was easier, Simply because i remember bombing zergs in that game all day long. The only time it got to be really challenging was very very late in the game, when Speed Warps were so damn common. Camping a Bridge or Tower though and blowing up the zerg though was still damn easy in that game. In fact only 2 games I've found easier blowing up zergs in the game, and that was Rift and Warhammer Online. Maybe if your EU group wasn't so bad you would of been better at bombing zergs.
ok all of that crap u just wrote proves u were a random noob that has zero clue about the game. im not discussing that game with lessers therefor im done talking to you.
have a nice day.
lol
What a surprise, an EU player claiming to know something, then sulking off when called out on his wrongness
every single thing u said in ur last post is wrong. not surprising tho. NA never had a clue how to play that game.0 -
lao✭✭✭✭uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server . can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
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Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭im sorry that you couldnt compete vs our na 8mans, but i didnt think anyone would still be crying about daoc in 2014, especially on an eso forum.
nobody plays daoc anymore bro. please dont also challenge us to goldeneye on n64 lolEdited by Lowbei on 17 May 2014 01:061 -
lao✭✭✭✭im sorry that you couldnt compete vs our na 8mans, but i didnt think anyone would still be crying about daoc in 2014, especially on an eso forum.
i wish you could compete here
id smash u in any game. dont worry.
but i guess u already figured that out since ur dodging.Edited by lao on 17 May 2014 01:050 -
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✭✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.
and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.
ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.
Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.
As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..
now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....
I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.
thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.
its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi
and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups
Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.
Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.
Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist
Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.
Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.
Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.
There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.
As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.
ok let me correct some of that crap u just typed.
1) WL got nerfed, no1 runs that anymore. most ppl run 3 casters 2 tanks. usually no BD in there either tho BD works. its just not the preferred style atm.
2) ur correct about alb setups. well more or less atleast. they also run hybrid but sorc caba theurg is in there.
3) elds? ru kidding me? no1 runs eld anymore. mentalist can do almost everything an eld can do nowadays + has cm, heals and a pet. they even have ns now.
4) as i said rr2 vs rr12 doesnt mean anything. whenever NA and EU met on even ground NA got destroyed. freeshards are a good example for this. in 10 years of shard history there have been plenty of NA groups that considered themself good and not one, not a single one has ever been on par with the EU groups. neither can i remember a single NA group that ever been a factor on EU live.
5) really, im not even gonna discuss the zerg farming thing anymore. if u think it was easier in DAoC thats simply due to the fact that u a) dont really understand the game and b) only ever fought awful players on your B-league server.
1. Warlocks got nerfed recently, I'm not sure on them...People still run BD's/Runnie or 2 Runnies, never 3 casters/2 tanks in a Midgard Group. Simply because 2 Healers/1 Skald/1 Shaman/2 Casters/2 Melee Works better. 3 Casters works better for Alb Groups.
2. Very few alb groups ran the Hybrid Setup, Cause their Caster setups were so damn good...when we did our Alb group we ran 3 Theurgist Group...which was just silliness.
3. Unless Mentalist got Disease recently, You're going to be running an Eld, though a Valewalker can fill that position also.
4. Lol, the time i'm talking about, No one was RR12...In the few cases of Freeshards, the Euro groups stood no better chance against US groups either. Even in the dumbed down version of the game you guys didn't amaze me.
5. I know DAOC zerg farming was easier, Simply because i remember bombing zergs in that game all day long. The only time it got to be really challenging was very very late in the game, when Speed Warps were so damn common. Camping a Bridge or Tower though and blowing up the zerg though was still damn easy in that game. In fact only 2 games I've found easier blowing up zergs in the game, and that was Rift and Warhammer Online. Maybe if your EU group wasn't so bad you would of been better at bombing zergs.
ok all of that crap u just wrote proves u were a random noob that has zero clue about the game. im not discussing that game with lessers therefor im done talking to you.
have a nice day.
lol
What a surprise, an EU player claiming to know something, then sulking off when called out on his wrongness
every single thing u said in ur last post is wrong. not surprising tho. NA never had a clue how to play that game.
Judging by how well you've done in this thread, You saying NA never had a clue how to play game isn't that insulting.
I see EU players haven't gotten much better since DAOC days.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭✭✭✭✭uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on 17 May 2014 01:34https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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lao✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on 17 May 2014 01:350 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
If Uthgard ever comes back I might play it, Most likely I'll be watching you fail horribly on CU...
Also how can it be both?
If none of your friends play the game, Why would it matter that you're on the crappy EU servers?Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on 17 May 2014 01:35https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭uthgard has been down for months genius. tho i have gmd on many shards and have my own i could bring up right now. this is Error, i ran The Pit for a while.
im looking at daoc portal now, uthgard is down lol1 -
lao✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server u r-tard. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
its both u r-tard. anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
If Uthgard ever comes back I might play it, Most likely I'll be watching you fail horribly on CU...
u will be decorating the ground of emain nicely.
not sure ill play CU as its gonna be the same lowskill trash as eso but if u want ill take one for the team and crap all over you there aswell.
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lao✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server u r-tard. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
its both u r-tard. anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
If Uthgard ever comes back I might play it, Most likely I'll be watching you fail horribly on CU...
Also how can it be both?
If none of your friends play the game, Why would it matter that you're on the crappy EU servers?
do you seriously expect me to reroll on ur low level server and join some trash yanks just so i can wipe the floor with ur useless corpses? the challenge is hardly worth the effort....0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server u r-tard. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
If Uthgard ever comes back I might play it, Most likely I'll be watching you fail horribly on CU...
u will be decorating the ground of emain nicely.
not sure ill play CU as its gonna be the same lowskill trash as eso but if u want ill take one for the team and crap all over you there aswell.
Of course you won't play CU, rofl...
Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on 17 May 2014 01:39https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
If Uthgard ever comes back I might play it, Most likely I'll be watching you fail horribly on CU...
Also how can it be both?
If none of your friends play the game, Why would it matter that you're on the crappy EU servers?
do you seriously expect me to reroll on ur low level server and join some trash yanks just so i can wipe the floor with ur useless corpses? the challenge is hardly worth the effort....
lol, no I expect you to be somewhat knowledgeable about a game before you post about it...So far you've failed my expectations
Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on 17 May 2014 01:39https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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lao✭✭✭✭xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to
edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol
still, we´re on different server u r-tard. can u possibly comprehend that or is that too much to ask for?
my offer still stands. fight us on uthgard when it comes back.
be there or be square
So wait, it went from "None of my friends play the game" to "We're on a different server"
You're french aren't you?
its both u r-tard. anyways cba to waste my time on a nonfactor.
will u fight us on uthgard yes/no?
If Uthgard ever comes back I might play it, Most likely I'll be watching you fail horribly on CU...
Also how can it be both?
If none of your friends play the game, Why would it matter that you're on the crappy EU servers?
do you seriously expect me to reroll on ur low level server and join some trash yanks just so i can wipe the floor with ur useless corpses? the challenge is hardly worth the effort....
lol, no I expect you to be somewhat knowledgeable about a game before you post about it...So far you've failed my expectations
trust me ive forgotten more about it than u will ever know 0 -
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