6man Zerg Farming

Lowbei

haha we zerg farmed in daoc just the same, 8v80, and it was even easier due to massive CC. nobody ever said that skill was involved in hitting buttons lol

and grimnix, im sorry that nobody will group you. keep practicing and maybe a guild will pick you up bro. until then, stop whining about your rp donations, thanks

Azarul

I really have nothing to add to this thread other than the OP really likes the word butthurt.

Lowbei

Azarul wrote: »

I really have nothing to add to this thread other than the OP really likes the word butthurt.

theres just so much of it going around, hard not to call it like it is

lao

Lowbei wrote: »

haha we zerg farmed in daoc just the same, 8v80, and it was even easier due to massive CC. nobody ever said that skill was involved in hitting buttons lol

u cant possibly think that if u ever really zergfarmed in DAoC like u claim. the CC and interupt system alone makes it harder than spamming aoes. not saying it was hard in a proper group but definitaly ALOT harder than in ESO and it definitaly required more teamwork than "pull back behind that tree - aoe - aoe - aoe - aoe"

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

What is your group doing exactly that a group of 24 can't do lol...

I mean if you had 24 wouldn't you be able to bomb faster....

Lowbei

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO

You don't get less AP though for having more players though and your players that are healing would actually get more AP

Congrats though your friends obviously are very well organized

Lowbei

... ahh i see where your confusion comes from.

in pve, everyone gets full xp.

in rvr, you split ap based on damage to target

lao

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Lowbei

lol half my daoc zerg bombing group was euros, and your statement about euro groups being better than na groups is adorable lol

zerg bombing is zerg bombing. but feel free to keep trying to argue the fact if you want. if you dominated groups, then you should be able to field a group to gvg us, right? no? awwww

Talcyndl

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

In the first video, I clearly saw siege from your keep hitting the people you were fighting.

Strange...the only siege I see is theirs. There was a catapult down the stairs at the beginning and a ballista at the top of the stairs. No siege from us (you can see the walls clear a few times). Regardless, I was making a joke about using the term "zerg" for any group of 15 or more.

Xsorus

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

Xsorus

Also before you say "Well i played DAOC recently, and all NA groups run Tank Groups" i'm going to call *** on that.

Simply because I know that the Theurgist Exists in that game, and that class alone pretty much guarantee's that any 8man running today is going to have to run Hybrid.

I also know that Hib Group Setups haven't changed in a long long time, and I also know that Alb Groups haven't changed either (they've always been pretty much caster heavy) So that Leaves Midgard, and like i said..The Theurgist Exists so Midgard is not running full tank groups.

lao

Lowbei wrote: »

lol half my daoc zerg bombing group was euros, and your statement about euro groups being better than na groups is adorable lol

zerg bombing is zerg bombing. but feel free to keep trying to argue the fact if you want. if you dominated groups, then you should be able to field a group to gvg us, right? no? awwww

trust me i tried to make my DAoC buddys buy this game but they refuse cos they can see that this game will never be competitive and tbh i cant rly argue against that. let me assure u tho, ur not good. no1 in this game is cos theres no skill ceiling in this game that would allow for high level play.

and yes EU groups were much much much better than NA groups throughout every single era of DAoC. pretty much like EU is always better at games than NA. with the exception of maybe fps games.

lao

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.

its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi

and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups

Lowbei

lol, your level of denial is adorable

thanks for the rps

lao

Lowbei wrote: »

lol, your level of denial is adorable

thanks for the rps

well, uthgard coming up sooner or later. i will field a group there. feel free to join when its up btw its classic so u can even run ur tanks on a patch when they are still somewhat viable. ur gonna get destroyed either way tho.

Xsorus

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.

its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi

and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups

Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.

Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.

Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist

Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.

Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.

Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.

There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.

As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.

Lowbei

lol are you really dodging a fight in eso (the game we are playing) to challenge us to a fight on a daoc freeshard (a game we stopped playing like 5years ago at least)

and a freeshard at that haha.

thanks for the rps, less butthurt please

ps. please dont challenge me to a game of madden 2005, i dont play that anymore either

lao

Lowbei wrote: »

lol are you really dodging a fight in eso (the game we are playing) to challenge us to a fight on a daoc freeshard (a game we stopped playing like 5years ago at least)

and a freeshard at that haha.

thanks for the rps, less butthurt please

ps. please dont challenge me to a game of madden 2005, i dont play that anymore either

well i would fight u in eso but none of my buddies is playing it and im not gonna join some randoms. also i would like to point out that we play on different megaservers, dummy :>

as for uthgard, does it matter that its a freeshard? all i see is u dodging with the weak excuse "soz havent played for 5 years"

if u think u were good then prove it. otherwise ill just say,

"soz, cant hear u talking when ur sitting at DL"

Xsorus

Do people still play Uthgard? Didn't everyone go play DAOC-Origins till they screwed it up?

lao

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.

its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi

and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups

Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.

Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.

Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist

Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.

Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.

Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.

There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.

As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.

ok let me correct some of that crap u just typed.

1) WL got nerfed, no1 runs that anymore. most ppl run 3 casters 2 tanks. usually no BD in there either tho BD works. its just not the preferred style atm.

2) ur correct about alb setups. well more or less atleast. they also run hybrid but sorc caba theurg is in there.

3) elds? ru kidding me? no1 runs eld anymore. mentalist can do almost everything an eld can do nowadays + has cm, heals and a pet. they even have ns now.

4) as i said rr2 vs rr12 doesnt mean anything. whenever NA and EU met on even ground NA got destroyed. freeshards are a good example for this. in 10 years of shard history there have been plenty of NA groups that considered themself good and not one, not a single one has ever been on par with the EU groups. neither can i remember a single NA group that ever been a factor on EU live.

5) really, im not even gonna discuss the zerg farming thing anymore. if u think it was easier in DAoC thats simply due to the fact that u a) dont really understand the game and b) only ever fought awful players on your B-league server.

lao

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Do people still play Uthgard? Didn't everyone go play DAOC-Origins till they screwed it up?

uthgard went down for a revamp when origins released. knowing Blue this can take a random amount of time. he said he wouldnt relaunch till all bugs are fixed and SI is fully working tho.

Lowbei

lol so you are dodging a fight in this mmo we play in 2014, to challenge us to a long dead mmo from 2001, and we are dodging?

hhahahahahaha thats like me saying "if you dont fight us in hello kitty online, you are dodging!"

thats adorable. thanks for the rps, less butthurt please

lao

Lowbei wrote: »

lol so you are dodging a fight in this mmo we play in 2014, to challenge us to a long dead mmo from 2001, and we are dodging?

hhahahahahaha

thats adorable. thanks for the rps, less butthurt please

soz cant hear u at DL son

Xsorus

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.

its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi

and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups

Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.

Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.

Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist

Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.

Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.

Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.

There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.

As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.

ok let me correct some of that crap u just typed.

1) WL got nerfed, no1 runs that anymore. most ppl run 3 casters 2 tanks. usually no BD in there either tho BD works. its just not the preferred style atm.

2) ur correct about alb setups. well more or less atleast. they also run hybrid but sorc caba theurg is in there.

3) elds? ru kidding me? no1 runs eld anymore. mentalist can do almost everything an eld can do nowadays + has cm, heals and a pet. they even have ns now.

4) as i said rr2 vs rr12 doesnt mean anything. whenever NA and EU met on even ground NA got destroyed. freeshards are a good example for this. in 10 years of shard history there have been plenty of NA groups that considered themself good and not one, not a single one has ever been on par with the EU groups. neither can i remember a single NA group that ever been a factor on EU live.

5) really, im not even gonna discuss the zerg farming thing anymore. if u think it was easier in DAoC thats simply due to the fact that u a) dont really understand the game and b) only ever fought awful players on your B-league server.

1. Warlocks got nerfed recently, I'm not sure on them...People still run BD's/Runnie or 2 Runnies, never 3 casters/2 tanks in a Midgard Group. Simply because 2 Healers/1 Skald/1 Shaman/2 Casters/2 Melee Works better. 3 Casters works better for Alb Groups.

2. Very few alb groups ran the Hybrid Setup, Cause their Caster setups were so damn good...when we did our Alb group we ran 3 Theurgist Group...which was just silliness.

3. Unless Mentalist got Disease recently, You're going to be running an Eld, though a Valewalker can fill that position also.

4. Lol, the time i'm talking about, No one was RR12...In the few cases of Freeshards, the Euro groups stood no better chance against US groups either. Even in the dumbed down version of the game you guys didn't amaze me.

5. I know DAOC zerg farming was easier, Simply because i remember bombing zergs in that game all day long. The only time it got to be really challenging was very very late in the game, when Speed Warps were so damn common. Camping a Bridge or Tower though and blowing up the zerg though was still damn easy in that game. In fact only 2 games I've found easier blowing up zergs in the game, and that was Rift and Warhammer Online. Maybe if your EU group wasn't so bad you would of been better at bombing zergs.

Lowbei

uthgard server has been down for months, so im not sure which DL you are referring to

edit: dont worry, i dont blame you for dodging, i just didnt think you would dodge all the way to another game lol

Kililin

10/10

lao

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.

its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi

and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups

Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.

Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.

Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist

Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.

Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.

Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.

There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.

As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.

ok let me correct some of that crap u just typed.

1) WL got nerfed, no1 runs that anymore. most ppl run 3 casters 2 tanks. usually no BD in there either tho BD works. its just not the preferred style atm.

2) ur correct about alb setups. well more or less atleast. they also run hybrid but sorc caba theurg is in there.

3) elds? ru kidding me? no1 runs eld anymore. mentalist can do almost everything an eld can do nowadays + has cm, heals and a pet. they even have ns now.

4) as i said rr2 vs rr12 doesnt mean anything. whenever NA and EU met on even ground NA got destroyed. freeshards are a good example for this. in 10 years of shard history there have been plenty of NA groups that considered themself good and not one, not a single one has ever been on par with the EU groups. neither can i remember a single NA group that ever been a factor on EU live.

5) really, im not even gonna discuss the zerg farming thing anymore. if u think it was easier in DAoC thats simply due to the fact that u a) dont really understand the game and b) only ever fought awful players on your B-league server.

1. Warlocks got nerfed recently, I'm not sure on them...People still run BD's/Runnie or 2 Runnies, never 3 casters/2 tanks in a Midgard Group. Simply because 2 Healers/1 Skald/1 Shaman/2 Casters/2 Melee Works better. 3 Casters works better for Alb Groups.

2. Very few alb groups ran the Hybrid Setup, Cause their Caster setups were so damn good...when we did our Alb group we ran 3 Theurgist Group...which was just silliness.

3. Unless Mentalist got Disease recently, You're going to be running an Eld, though a Valewalker can fill that position also.

4. Lol, the time i'm talking about, No one was RR12...In the few cases of Freeshards, the Euro groups stood no better chance against US groups either. Even in the dumbed down version of the game you guys didn't amaze me.

5. I know DAOC zerg farming was easier, Simply because i remember bombing zergs in that game all day long. The only time it got to be really challenging was very very late in the game, when Speed Warps were so damn common. Camping a Bridge or Tower though and blowing up the zerg though was still damn easy in that game. In fact only 2 games I've found easier blowing up zergs in the game, and that was Rift and Warhammer Online. Maybe if your EU group wasn't so bad you would of been better at bombing zergs.

ok all of that crap u just wrote proves u were a random noob that has zero clue about the game. im not discussing that game with lessers therefor im done talking to you.

have a nice day.

Xsorus

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

lao wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol in here. you obviously never farmed zergs in daoc, so i get where your confusion comes from, but in reality it isnt much different from eso other than the CC, which can be argued either direction both towards ease and difficulty.

and to the zerger who asks why not run 24, its because we can win with 6, why split pts with 24? plus its zerging, which has been explained already.

ive farmed plenty of zergs in DAoC. probably more than anyone here. ive been in dominant groups for more than a decade on the most competitive servers that existed in DAoC so do not doubt my experience. saying the CC system made it easier to farm zergs than it is in eso is simply stupid. there is no argument about it rly. just saw that u played on NA tho. i guess that explains alot. NA groups have never been on par with EU groups NA has always been 2-3 years behind EU in metagame so i guess the same thing applies for zergs. prime example: most NA groups STILL run tank groups and get royally destroyed by EU hybrids. on EU we stopped running tank groups in 2003 when they became obsolete vs any good hybrid/caster group. the fact that u think there isnt much difference just tells me that u werent very good at DAoC rly. again u fought awful ppl which gave u the wrong impression that what u do is actually skillful. kinda the same thing that happened to you in eso im not saying ur bad or anything, just that ur not as good as u may think and that illusion comes from fighting subpar enemies. back then and today aswell.

Ummm....NA groups stopped running Tank Groups a long long time ago in DAOC, and pretty much every NA group was hybrid. I question if you ever actually played DAOC at this point. In fact I can tell you exactly when Tank groups disappeared from NA play, and that was when TOA came out.

As for NA groups never being on par with EU groups, There have been a few EU groups that came over to Merlin a few times, and i can absolutely say they got wrecked 9/10 by most NA groups on Merlin. Why EU players keep thinking they were special snowflakes in that game i'll never guess..

now as for Zerg Farming in either game.....

I'd say it was easier in DAOC, Simply because most zerg bomb fights were over in the first few seconds of the fight. If we're talking about Farming, I'd still say it was easier, Simply because you run out of Mana/Stamina so fast in this game that prolonged engagements don't work so great.

thats funny cos they are running tanks on live as we speak. also i cant recall a single EU group ever getting rolled on US unless it was rr2 vs rr12 maybe. i DO however remember a specfic EU group pooping on everyone on NA servers at rr4.

its not that EU groups were better in just DAoC. they are better at every single mmo there ever was. just like they are better in RTS aswell (tho koreans *** on everyone there) the only genre NA could ever compete with EU was fps games and also only in the "brainless" ones. when it comes to tactical shooters u get pooped on here aswell. NiP says hi

and yea if u think it was easier to farm zergs in DAoC that just proves that u werent a factor in that game at all. maybe u shoulda left ur B-league server and come to excal to play with the big boys to see what its like to fight good groups

Yea i'm going to call *** like I said.

Most Midgard Groups run a Runemaster and BD, though I hear Warlock is better now.

Alb Groups, They're always going to be caster heavy with Sorc/Cabby/Theurgist

Hib Groups, They're going to run Elds, maybe a Mentalist now.

Alb Groups pretty much dictate that you're not going to run a full tank group because there is no way in hell you'll be able to clear Theurgist Pets with one.

Like I said, a few of your "specific EU" groups came over to Merlin and got trounced by the Midgard groups that ran back then...I'm not sure how well their Hib Groups did against the Alb Groups of the time.

There has been nothing special about EU players in any of the games i've seen. You've lost vs NA players just as easily as NA players have lost vs EU players, In fact the only thing you got right is Koreans crapping on everyone in RTS....That's actually true.

As for zerg farming, You seem to have had trouble with Zerg Farming, which suggests you weren't actually very good at it...But Zerg farming in DAOC was no more harder then this game. In fact its about to get a lot harder in this game once the stacking starts.

ok let me correct some of that crap u just typed.

1) WL got nerfed, no1 runs that anymore. most ppl run 3 casters 2 tanks. usually no BD in there either tho BD works. its just not the preferred style atm.

2) ur correct about alb setups. well more or less atleast. they also run hybrid but sorc caba theurg is in there.

3) elds? ru kidding me? no1 runs eld anymore. mentalist can do almost everything an eld can do nowadays + has cm, heals and a pet. they even have ns now.

4) as i said rr2 vs rr12 doesnt mean anything. whenever NA and EU met on even ground NA got destroyed. freeshards are a good example for this. in 10 years of shard history there have been plenty of NA groups that considered themself good and not one, not a single one has ever been on par with the EU groups. neither can i remember a single NA group that ever been a factor on EU live.

5) really, im not even gonna discuss the zerg farming thing anymore. if u think it was easier in DAoC thats simply due to the fact that u a) dont really understand the game and b) only ever fought awful players on your B-league server.

1. Warlocks got nerfed recently, I'm not sure on them...People still run BD's/Runnie or 2 Runnies, never 3 casters/2 tanks in a Midgard Group. Simply because 2 Healers/1 Skald/1 Shaman/2 Casters/2 Melee Works better. 3 Casters works better for Alb Groups.

2. Very few alb groups ran the Hybrid Setup, Cause their Caster setups were so damn good...when we did our Alb group we ran 3 Theurgist Group...which was just silliness.

3. Unless Mentalist got Disease recently, You're going to be running an Eld, though a Valewalker can fill that position also.

4. Lol, the time i'm talking about, No one was RR12...In the few cases of Freeshards, the Euro groups stood no better chance against US groups either. Even in the dumbed down version of the game you guys didn't amaze me.

5. I know DAOC zerg farming was easier, Simply because i remember bombing zergs in that game all day long. The only time it got to be really challenging was very very late in the game, when Speed Warps were so damn common. Camping a Bridge or Tower though and blowing up the zerg though was still damn easy in that game. In fact only 2 games I've found easier blowing up zergs in the game, and that was Rift and Warhammer Online. Maybe if your EU group wasn't so bad you would of been better at bombing zergs.

ok all of that crap u just wrote proves u were a random noob that has zero clue about the game. im not discussing that game with lessers therefor im done talking to you.

have a nice day.

lol

What a surprise, an EU player claiming to know something, then sulking off when called out on his wrongness