Vote on the Worst racials in the game

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

We all agree that some racials are just lame, so this isn't a hate on ZOS fest. This is just a poll to see if the rest of the community feels the same as you do. Please vote and share this page with your friends.
These are just the passives that I think are the weakest, feel free to add your own in the comments below.
Keep in mind these are all the third level of the passive.

I would've added more but those would be a much greater step out on the limb of my opinion.

Hope you guys enjoy.

Varicite

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

People who believe 15% potion effectiveness is somehow "bad" probably don't know much about theorizing a build, imo.

AlexDougherty

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

Not come across much cold damage yet, other racials are good, ignore the swim speed on the argonian, 15% boost on potions is magnificent.
Orc Passive comes second worst, running is either a minor issue or bypassed by horses.

ErilAq

Orc passive -Swift (Increase sprint speed 10% reduce cost by 12%)

Honestly, for me the orc sprint speed/reduced cost is just garbage. every other passive is better than that one. Who cares if I can run longer? or faster. that's what horses are for.

NordJitsu

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

None of the above.

All of the listed passives are very useful and will be important once a Meta has developed. Right now most ESO PvPers are stuck on FoTM nooby builds.

Poison and frost resistance will become much more potent. As will the Argonian potion passive once people realize that you can get a ridiculous upkeep on things like Spell Power, Invisibility, Detection, ect. when using an Argonian Alchemist.

Swift I won't even comment on since its so obviously amazing.

Kililin

NordJitsu wrote: »

None of the above.

All of the listed passives are very useful and will be important once a Meta has developed. Right now most ESO PvPers are stuck on FoTM nooby builds.

Poison and frost resistance will become much more potent. As will the Argonian potion passive once people realize that you can get a ridiculous upkeep on things like Spell Power, Invisibility, Detection, ect. when using an Argonian Alchemist.

Swift I won't even comment on since its so obviously amazing.

I agree with you, and actually i think Argonian is one of the best Races available.
But being dependent on of potions also will make for a expensive upkeep.

Xarko

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

Nord - 15% health regen

Nox_Aeterna

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

I would have made a nord , but the breton had much better racials , so i made a breton templar.

Would also probably run a breton or dummer DK , never a nord.

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

See I disagree about the argonians. Sure its an ok passive I guess, if you build your character around it, but that passive compared to other passives in the game, I personally think its kinda lame.

I also agree about the Frost damage resistance, esp in pvp. Its so rare to run into.

Still_Mind

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

Varicite wrote: »

People who believe 15% potion effectiveness is somehow "bad" probably don't know much about theorizing a build, imo.

Indeed. Very tempted to make an alchemy-centered Argonian Nightblade alt just to see how far can potion abuse go (it already can go pretty far with potion speed enchants and alchemy talents).

Voted Nord, but not because I think their racials are the worst, per se, but because they could have been so much more practical, without losing their Nord theme.

Kililin

sommazzatoreb14_ESO wrote: »

See I disagree about the argonians. Sure its an ok passive I guess, if you build your character around it, but that passive compared to other passives in the game, I personally think its kinda lame.

I also agree about the Frost damage resistance, esp in pvp. Its so rare to run into.

But there are lots of passives you need to build your character around.
e.g. a Dunmer vampire DK magicka build makes way better use of Dunmer racials than a Dunmer werewolf nightblade stamina build.

The racials and in fact all skills do not exist in a vacuum but should always be assessed with synergies in mind.

Yasha

Bosmer - Resist Affliction (Increase Poison resistence by X, and increase max stamina by 3%)

Can't believe so many see the Argonian racials as bad, the 15% bonus to potion effectiveness is one of the best racials in the game, especially for a NB.

AlexDougherty

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

Yasha wrote: »

Can't believe so many see the Argonian racials as bad, the 15% bonus to potion effectiveness is one of the best racials in the game, especially for a NB.

Indeed, I have an Argonian Nightblade, potions help a lot.

bloodenragedb14_ESO

ignore this post, i had more than one thread open and replied on teh wrong one

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

You guys talking about Argonian Alchemists do realize it only applies to potion in your posseion and not crafted, right? At least, thats what the description makes it sound like. If it does apply to crafting then I would think thats kinda lame since Orcs shoulda gotten a boost to Blacksmithing, but yea, I don't think it does.

Kililin

sommazzatoreb14_ESO wrote: »

You guys talking about Argonian Alchemists do realize it only applies to potion in your posseion and not crafted, right? At least, thats what the description makes it sound like. If it does apply to crafting then I would think thats kinda lame since Orcs shoulda gotten a boost to Blacksmithing, but yea, I don't think it does.

Yeah your potions, you can have 100% potion uptime, have a look what some of them do...

If it would apply to crafted potions every alchemsit would need to be Argonian.

gloryhammer

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

sommazzatoreb14_ESO wrote: »

You guys talking about Argonian Alchemists do realize it only applies to potion in your posseion and not crafted, right? At least, thats what the description makes it sound like. If it does apply to crafting then I would think thats kinda lame since Orcs shoulda gotten a boost to Blacksmithing, but yea, I don't think it does.

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kewl

Soon as Bolt Escape is nerfed; Orcs with full Robust and Well-Fitted gear will be the best scroll thieves in PvP.

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

I can't wait for it to be nerfed haha

Darrett

sommazzatoreb14_ESO wrote: »

You guys talking about Argonian Alchemists do realize it only applies to potion in your posseion and not crafted, right? At least, thats what the description makes it sound like. If it does apply to crafting then I would think thats kinda lame since Orcs shoulda gotten a boost to Blacksmithing, but yea, I don't think it does.

Alchemists get a 30% increase to potion effectiveness in their skill line. Stack that with the NB and the Argonian abilities that do the same thing, and potions become pretty powerful.

darkdruidssb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

Going to vote the Argonian passive, but really as the game matures all of those will be beneficial. Only Argonian because swimming is "Meh" and you can get 30% effectiveness on all races if you rank up Alchemy.. which is easy to do, but another 15% on top of that isn't bad at all.

People are saying Nords because of Frost Resistance, but in the last AMA when they mentioned Spell Crafting they specifically referenced some's question on making a frost mage and saying it would be possible with Spell Crafting. Plus you get more HP with it which is always good.

Bosmer with poison resistance.. maybe not be great in PvE, but in PvP tons of people have bows with poison damage and of course Werewolves are naturally less resistant to poison making Bosmer a good dedicated Werewolf race (once they make WW worth investing in). Stamina on top of the poison resist screams WW as well, but allows for more stamina builds or just to have more stamina in a magicka build.. never hurts for dodge rolling and sprinting.

Orc passive for running.. I mean come on. Maybe limited usefulness in PvE, but again in PvP where you are constantly stuck in combat in groups so that you can't mount... priceless.

Sakiri

Yasha wrote: »

Can't believe so many see the Argonian racials as bad, the 15% bonus to potion effectiveness is one of the best racials in the game, especially for a NB.

Bosmer racial however, is excellent for a werewolf.

AlexDougherty

Nord - Resist Frost (Increase Cold resistance by X and increase max health by 3%)

sommazzatoreb14_ESO wrote: »

You guys talking about Argonian Alchemists do realize it only applies to potion in your posseion and not crafted, right?.

Yes we realise, but with nightblades those potions help a lot, it's the difference between just killing your enemy, and almost killing him. Whether it's weapon critical, or health, it gives you an extra sliver of usefulness.

ArRashid

Cmon, those are all good!

Worst passives are those that require certain playstyle to even trigger:

Imperial - Red Diamond - a mere 10% chance on MELEE attack to get healed by a small amount
Redguard - Adrenaline Rush - again, generates stamina, ONLY FOR MELEE
Khajiit - Carnage - once again, increases MELEE critical chance only

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

AlexDougherty wrote: »

sommazzatoreb14_ESO wrote: »

You guys talking about Argonian Alchemists do realize it only applies to potion in your posseion and not crafted, right?.

Yes we realise, but with nightblades those potions help a lot, it's the difference between just killing your enemy, and almost killing him. Whether it's weapon critical, or health, it gives you an extra sliver of usefulness.

I play a night blade and i you are ever lacking in Attribute Pools then you are doing something wrong man

The Racials for a lot of other classes are more beneficial than 15% potion bonus. (And maybe you realize that, but I guarantee those guys don't lol)

Eitehr way, thanks for commenting

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

ArRashid wrote: »

Cmon, those are all good!

Worst passives are those that require certain playstyle to even trigger:

Imperial - Red Diamond - a mere 10% chance on MELEE attack to get healed by a small amount
Redguard - Adrenaline Rush - again, generates stamina, ONLY FOR MELEE
Khajiit - Carnage - once again, increases MELEE critical chance only

Imperial nightblade is awesome with haste, and the Khajiiti passive you mentioned was changed to both range and melee before launch.

As for Redguard though, thats pretty awesome too. I think at least. Esp for sword and board tank.

koregen

I'm actually regretting not rolling a Argonian for my nightblade. The only burst I have is by using potions. Having that passive would be amazing.

ArRashid

try playing a redguard siphon healer, or a redguard bowman... or an imperial mage of any sort..
Also, Khajiiti racial ingame still states for me that it's increasing crit by 6% only for melee attacks..

Those racials are pretty much wasted on any non-melee specialization.

sommazzatoreb14_ESO

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

They said in the AmA that it was changed. The AmA before launch.

rich_nicholsonb16_ESO

Bosmer - Resist Affliction (Increase Poison resistence by X, and increase max stamina by 3%)

Poison resists might be ok later in the game but atm there is no use for it, I would rather have +makica or health than stamina.

AshTal

Argonian - Amphibious (Increase Swim Speed 50% and potion effectiveness 15%)

So hard to pick the Argonain one. Almost went for the health and poison/disease resist. Almost no poison/disease in the game that I can see and only a single attack in the player style, the 3% health however made it seem a little better than the 15% potion bonus. When looking at the number potions just don't do that much and 15% on a 300 healing potion is 45 health extra, an imperial gets far higher than that perm through his health stack.
I hope the Racials are rebalanced soon.