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DK solos Craglon Delve...

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  • Niffo
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    Rylana wrote: »
    jobo11b16_ESO wrote: »
    Punche wrote: »
    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »
    This is a craglorn boss that is made for four people.

    And the video I linked is not just one, but four dungeon bosses being solo'd. You know that dungeons are made for four people, right?

    Your video showed a Nightblade using an ability that bugs out the AI to solo a VR dungeon. If npcs worked properly when someone goes invis that Nightblade would not have been able to complete the dungeon.

    Youre starting to sound pretty desperate

    Go on.
  • Punche
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    jobo11b16_ESO wrote: »
    Wow, your nose must smell terrible right now. Playing easily what is most likely the strongest class in the game, and holding block while using instant cast abilities, yeah that's has to be skill right there. If he can do the same on any class then yes, hes skilled. Being able to block while using instant cast abilities is what makes this possible.

    It's unfortunate that you seem to be unable to comprehend that any class could do the same thing. It's also funny that you seem to think this took hardly any skill - you must be the idiot on the couch screaming at how bad the pros are. LOL
  • Drachenfier
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    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    "A nightblade could complete this encounter by using siphoning strikes toggled on with the "any ability" proc chance morph to give resources back, in conjunction with aoe's such as power drain and whirlwind or a destruction staff with pulsar/etc. to keep themselves topped with practically unlimited resources thanks to so many adds spawning providing ample targets to proc off of and keep ult generated. The trickier part for them would be the healing, however they can use the Veil of Blades ultimate to provide themselves a 60% damage reduction for the bulk of the encounter that also damages/helps kill off the adds, and heal using ambush+swallow soul (boosted by the ambush). Pop on a resto staff with the instant cast morph of Force Siphon to add some extra healing on every hit of the boss (I did this with my DK in the video but I didn't have the instant version available on him so I simply did it at the start of the fight and let it lapse). and it would be enough to keep yourself alive until victory"

    This is tneory craft from someone who has nevered played a VR Nightblade. Keeping up a 15 second ultimate an entire fight for a NB is rediculous as we cannot build Ulti like a DK standard and talons spam. At most we could reduce Veil of Blades to 100 Ulti, and if we're supposed to be using Leeching Strikes at -25% damage, we aren't going to be making that 100 ulti back spamming 75% power WWs. Also your claim we are supposed to Ambush INTO a target to boost Swallow Soul healing is rediculous as your video clearly shows you KITING the entire fight to stay alive. There is simply no way a NB could pull off something like this.

    Ultimate cost reduction gear and passives need to be removed from the game period. Also Ultimate should not regen while an Ulti ability is active. After that they can get to work on the broken NB trees for the 100 of us not rerolling FOTM DK or Sorc builds.



    here ya go, NB popping Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nl2m_6dC-ew

    Against level 28 none VR mobs in a public dungeon... and watching the video he uses his ultimate once for three different mob packs.

    Lol why are you even posting in a big boy thread.

    That's irrelevant. Someone said NB couldn't pop ultimate as much as DK, and that in that video he clearly popped Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight with a pack of mobs.

    plus, that guy is level 20 killing level 28 mobs without hardly losing any health.
  • JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO
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    Drachenfier wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »
    Maybe vampire isn't the problem... but the ability to gain ultimate from your ultimate and ultimate CDR....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXdLy3KYmWc

    Can any other class do that?????????? (except sorc obviously)

    Yea, all of them...he's using pulsar as his main damaging attack. Not to mention, he even says that he only soloed the trash mobs up to the first boss.

    .... what? He is duel wielding and using inhale ,burning talons, and standard of might.
  • grabbintrionb14_ESO
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    Punche wrote: »
    NB's can currently solo VR bosses without using their ultimate ONCE.

    youtube.com/watch?v=PJVgYs3MFA4

    So, quit crying about DK's. Thanks.

    That is broken, but hardly efficient. I don't know if you looked at the timestamps, but it took over 15 minutes of spamming heavy attack to kill that first boss.
  • grabbintrionb14_ESO
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    Drachenfier wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »
    Maybe vampire isn't the problem... but the ability to gain ultimate from your ultimate and ultimate CDR....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXdLy3KYmWc

    Can any other class do that?????????? (except sorc obviously)

    Yea, all of them...he's using pulsar as his main damaging attack. Not to mention, he even says that he only soloed the trash mobs up to the first boss.

    That's not pulsar dude, he's not even using a staff. It's the damaging explosion
    from inhale.
  • Mykah
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    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    "A nightblade could complete this encounter by using siphoning strikes toggled on with the "any ability" proc chance morph to give resources back, in conjunction with aoe's such as power drain and whirlwind or a destruction staff with pulsar/etc. to keep themselves topped with practically unlimited resources thanks to so many adds spawning providing ample targets to proc off of and keep ult generated. The trickier part for them would be the healing, however they can use the Veil of Blades ultimate to provide themselves a 60% damage reduction for the bulk of the encounter that also damages/helps kill off the adds, and heal using ambush+swallow soul (boosted by the ambush). Pop on a resto staff with the instant cast morph of Force Siphon to add some extra healing on every hit of the boss (I did this with my DK in the video but I didn't have the instant version available on him so I simply did it at the start of the fight and let it lapse). and it would be enough to keep yourself alive until victory"

    This is tneory craft from someone who has nevered played a VR Nightblade. Keeping up a 15 second ultimate an entire fight for a NB is rediculous as we cannot build Ulti like a DK standard and talons spam. At most we could reduce Veil of Blades to 100 Ulti, and if we're supposed to be using Leeching Strikes at -25% damage, we aren't going to be making that 100 ulti back spamming 75% power WWs. Also your claim we are supposed to Ambush INTO a target to boost Swallow Soul healing is rediculous as your video clearly shows you KITING the entire fight to stay alive. There is simply no way a NB could pull off something like this.

    Ultimate cost reduction gear and passives need to be removed from the game period. Also Ultimate should not regen while an Ulti ability is active. After that they can get to work on the broken NB trees for the 100 of us not rerolling FOTM DK or Sorc builds.



    here ya go, NB popping Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nl2m_6dC-ew

    Against level 28 none VR mobs in a public dungeon... and watching the video he uses his ultimate once for three different mob packs.

    Lol why are you even posting in a big boy thread.

    That's irrelevant. Someone said NB couldn't pop ultimate as much as DK, and that in that video he clearly popped Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight with a pack of mobs.

    plus, that guy is level 20 killing level 28 mobs without hardly losing any health.
    Its absolutely relevent, comparing 28 mobs to VR11 Group Dungeon mobs is apples and oranges. In the video he uses his Ultimate ONCE in each fight, three times total for three different mob packs. Not to mention his health does drop down quite a bit, his only saving heal being assassines blade, which works great in level 28 solo content but won't one shot anything in VR11 dungeons.

    I don't know what level you are, but if youre blown away by a 20 v 28 mob video, while also not even understanding whats happening in the video itself, I know your young and not in VR content yet, so your opinions are fairly irrelevent to the topic. Not trying to be rude but you should really just take a back seat for this discussion kiddo.

  • Niffo
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    Punche wrote: »

    It's unfortunate that you seem to be unable to comprehend that any class could do the same thing. It's also funny that you seem to think this took hardly any skill - you must be the idiot on the couch screaming at how bad the pros are. LOL

    Where are the videos of other classes doing it? I only ever see Dragonknights doing group content solo. If you have links to the videos of the other classes doing this without having to use exploits or broken mechanics then link it, theorycrafting how it could be done by other classes is not proof. If holding block while using instant cast abilities is what you consider to be skilled, then you have no idea what skill really is. Fanboys always manage to look pathetic when they're defending whatever they love.
  • Mykah
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    I'd like to point out I don't hate the DK class or resent the OP. I'm sure he's a decent PvEr, and I agree with him Ultimate regeneration using Ultimate abilities is the root issue which allows DKs to solo VR group content, which is OP.

    I only disagree with his theory craft claiming this is possible for a NB to do out of my direct experience playing a NB in VR content, something I don't think he has done.

    In any event, this whole "argument" between posters is pointless as Talons is getting its number of targets capped with the release of 1.1, we will have to wait and see how this effects the meta before calling for nerfs to the DK class.

    I still think Ultimate regeneration should not occur while a Ultimate ability is active, which would bring balance between the instant Ultimate abilities and the time lapse abilities.
  • Drachenfier
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    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »
    Maybe vampire isn't the problem... but the ability to gain ultimate from your ultimate and ultimate CDR....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXdLy3KYmWc

    Can any other class do that?????????? (except sorc obviously)

    Yea, all of them...he's using pulsar as his main damaging attack. Not to mention, he even says that he only soloed the trash mobs up to the first boss.

    .... what? He is duel wielding and using inhale ,burning talons, and standard of might.

    yes yes, read the thread.
  • Drachenfier
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    grabbintrionb14_ESO wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »
    Maybe vampire isn't the problem... but the ability to gain ultimate from your ultimate and ultimate CDR....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXdLy3KYmWc

    Can any other class do that?????????? (except sorc obviously)

    Yea, all of them...he's using pulsar as his main damaging attack. Not to mention, he even says that he only soloed the trash mobs up to the first boss.

    That's not pulsar dude, he's not even using a staff. It's the damaging explosion
    from inhale.

    Reading the thread ftw.
  • Drachenfier
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    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    "A nightblade could complete this encounter by using siphoning strikes toggled on with the "any ability" proc chance morph to give resources back, in conjunction with aoe's such as power drain and whirlwind or a destruction staff with pulsar/etc. to keep themselves topped with practically unlimited resources thanks to so many adds spawning providing ample targets to proc off of and keep ult generated. The trickier part for them would be the healing, however they can use the Veil of Blades ultimate to provide themselves a 60% damage reduction for the bulk of the encounter that also damages/helps kill off the adds, and heal using ambush+swallow soul (boosted by the ambush). Pop on a resto staff with the instant cast morph of Force Siphon to add some extra healing on every hit of the boss (I did this with my DK in the video but I didn't have the instant version available on him so I simply did it at the start of the fight and let it lapse). and it would be enough to keep yourself alive until victory"

    This is tneory craft from someone who has nevered played a VR Nightblade. Keeping up a 15 second ultimate an entire fight for a NB is rediculous as we cannot build Ulti like a DK standard and talons spam. At most we could reduce Veil of Blades to 100 Ulti, and if we're supposed to be using Leeching Strikes at -25% damage, we aren't going to be making that 100 ulti back spamming 75% power WWs. Also your claim we are supposed to Ambush INTO a target to boost Swallow Soul healing is rediculous as your video clearly shows you KITING the entire fight to stay alive. There is simply no way a NB could pull off something like this.

    Ultimate cost reduction gear and passives need to be removed from the game period. Also Ultimate should not regen while an Ulti ability is active. After that they can get to work on the broken NB trees for the 100 of us not rerolling FOTM DK or Sorc builds.



    here ya go, NB popping Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nl2m_6dC-ew

    Against level 28 none VR mobs in a public dungeon... and watching the video he uses his ultimate once for three different mob packs.

    Lol why are you even posting in a big boy thread.

    That's irrelevant. Someone said NB couldn't pop ultimate as much as DK, and that in that video he clearly popped Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight with a pack of mobs.

    plus, that guy is level 20 killing level 28 mobs without hardly losing any health.
    Its absolutely relevent, comparing 28 mobs to VR11 Group Dungeon mobs is apples and oranges. In the video he uses his Ultimate ONCE in each fight, three times total for three different mob packs. Not to mention his health does drop down quite a bit, his only saving heal being assassines blade, which works great in level 28 solo content but won't one shot anything in VR11 dungeons.

    I don't know what level you are, but if youre blown away by a 20 v 28 mob video, while also not even understanding whats happening in the video itself, I know your young and not in VR content yet, so your opinions are fairly irrelevent to the topic. Not trying to be rude but you should really just take a back seat for this discussion kiddo.

    Once again, mob level is irrelevant. The point is about him being able to pop a 200 cost ultimate multiple times in one fight, which you all were claiming only DK could do. Have you even watched the video? The guy that posted it is talking during the whole thing, and he even says, right there on the damn video, that he had two Veils running in that big pull. He then goes on to pop a third one as he engages the second set of mobs from the same pull.
    Edited by Drachenfier on 8 May 2014 17:32
  • Mykah
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    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    "A nightblade could complete this encounter by using siphoning strikes toggled on with the "any ability" proc chance morph to give resources back, in conjunction with aoe's such as power drain and whirlwind or a destruction staff with pulsar/etc. to keep themselves topped with practically unlimited resources thanks to so many adds spawning providing ample targets to proc off of and keep ult generated. The trickier part for them would be the healing, however they can use the Veil of Blades ultimate to provide themselves a 60% damage reduction for the bulk of the encounter that also damages/helps kill off the adds, and heal using ambush+swallow soul (boosted by the ambush). Pop on a resto staff with the instant cast morph of Force Siphon to add some extra healing on every hit of the boss (I did this with my DK in the video but I didn't have the instant version available on him so I simply did it at the start of the fight and let it lapse). and it would be enough to keep yourself alive until victory"

    This is tneory craft from someone who has nevered played a VR Nightblade. Keeping up a 15 second ultimate an entire fight for a NB is rediculous as we cannot build Ulti like a DK standard and talons spam. At most we could reduce Veil of Blades to 100 Ulti, and if we're supposed to be using Leeching Strikes at -25% damage, we aren't going to be making that 100 ulti back spamming 75% power WWs. Also your claim we are supposed to Ambush INTO a target to boost Swallow Soul healing is rediculous as your video clearly shows you KITING the entire fight to stay alive. There is simply no way a NB could pull off something like this.

    Ultimate cost reduction gear and passives need to be removed from the game period. Also Ultimate should not regen while an Ulti ability is active. After that they can get to work on the broken NB trees for the 100 of us not rerolling FOTM DK or Sorc builds.



    here ya go, NB popping Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nl2m_6dC-ew

    Against level 28 none VR mobs in a public dungeon... and watching the video he uses his ultimate once for three different mob packs.

    Lol why are you even posting in a big boy thread.

    That's irrelevant. Someone said NB couldn't pop ultimate as much as DK, and that in that video he clearly popped Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight with a pack of mobs.

    plus, that guy is level 20 killing level 28 mobs without hardly losing any health.
    Its absolutely relevent, comparing 28 mobs to VR11 Group Dungeon mobs is apples and oranges. In the video he uses his Ultimate ONCE in each fight, three times total for three different mob packs. Not to mention his health does drop down quite a bit, his only saving heal being assassines blade, which works great in level 28 solo content but won't one shot anything in VR11 dungeons.

    I don't know what level you are, but if youre blown away by a 20 v 28 mob video, while also not even understanding whats happening in the video itself, I know your young and not in VR content yet, so your opinions are fairly irrelevent to the topic. Not trying to be rude but you should really just take a back seat for this discussion kiddo.

    Once again, mob level is irrelevant. The point is about him being able to pop a 200 cost ultimate multiple times in one fight, which you all were claiming only DK could do. Have you even watched the video? The guy that posted it is talking during the whole thing, and he even says, right there on the damn video, that he had two Veils running in that last big pull. He then goes on to pop a third one as he engages the second set of mobs from the same pull.

    He gains the Ultimate from killing 28 mobs in 5 seconds, this is not going to happen in VR dungeons solo, also he walks into the second to last pull with enough Ultimate to pop veil, kills mobs in a few seconds for the second veil, then gains more ultimate killing the remaining mobs before pulling a new pack, killing them again to top off his Ultimate.

    This simply is not how it works in VR dungeons on a NB, something you have no experience with I'm sure. Take a backseat, please.
    Edited by Mykah on 8 May 2014 17:35
  • Drachenfier
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    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    Drachenfier wrote: »
    Mykah wrote: »
    "A nightblade could complete this encounter by using siphoning strikes toggled on with the "any ability" proc chance morph to give resources back, in conjunction with aoe's such as power drain and whirlwind or a destruction staff with pulsar/etc. to keep themselves topped with practically unlimited resources thanks to so many adds spawning providing ample targets to proc off of and keep ult generated. The trickier part for them would be the healing, however they can use the Veil of Blades ultimate to provide themselves a 60% damage reduction for the bulk of the encounter that also damages/helps kill off the adds, and heal using ambush+swallow soul (boosted by the ambush). Pop on a resto staff with the instant cast morph of Force Siphon to add some extra healing on every hit of the boss (I did this with my DK in the video but I didn't have the instant version available on him so I simply did it at the start of the fight and let it lapse). and it would be enough to keep yourself alive until victory"

    This is tneory craft from someone who has nevered played a VR Nightblade. Keeping up a 15 second ultimate an entire fight for a NB is rediculous as we cannot build Ulti like a DK standard and talons spam. At most we could reduce Veil of Blades to 100 Ulti, and if we're supposed to be using Leeching Strikes at -25% damage, we aren't going to be making that 100 ulti back spamming 75% power WWs. Also your claim we are supposed to Ambush INTO a target to boost Swallow Soul healing is rediculous as your video clearly shows you KITING the entire fight to stay alive. There is simply no way a NB could pull off something like this.

    Ultimate cost reduction gear and passives need to be removed from the game period. Also Ultimate should not regen while an Ulti ability is active. After that they can get to work on the broken NB trees for the 100 of us not rerolling FOTM DK or Sorc builds.



    here ya go, NB popping Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=nl2m_6dC-ew

    Against level 28 none VR mobs in a public dungeon... and watching the video he uses his ultimate once for three different mob packs.

    Lol why are you even posting in a big boy thread.

    That's irrelevant. Someone said NB couldn't pop ultimate as much as DK, and that in that video he clearly popped Veil of Blades 3 times in one fight with a pack of mobs.

    plus, that guy is level 20 killing level 28 mobs without hardly losing any health.
    Its absolutely relevent, comparing 28 mobs to VR11 Group Dungeon mobs is apples and oranges. In the video he uses his Ultimate ONCE in each fight, three times total for three different mob packs. Not to mention his health does drop down quite a bit, his only saving heal being assassines blade, which works great in level 28 solo content but won't one shot anything in VR11 dungeons.

    I don't know what level you are, but if youre blown away by a 20 v 28 mob video, while also not even understanding whats happening in the video itself, I know your young and not in VR content yet, so your opinions are fairly irrelevent to the topic. Not trying to be rude but you should really just take a back seat for this discussion kiddo.

    Once again, mob level is irrelevant. The point is about him being able to pop a 200 cost ultimate multiple times in one fight, which you all were claiming only DK could do. Have you even watched the video? The guy that posted it is talking during the whole thing, and he even says, right there on the damn video, that he had two Veils running in that last big pull. He then goes on to pop a third one as he engages the second set of mobs from the same pull.

    He gains the Ultimate from killing 28 mobs in 5 seconds, this is not going to happen in VR dungeons solo, also he walks into the second to last pull with enough Ultimate to pop veil, kills mobs in a few seconds for the second veil, then gains more ultimate killing the remaining mobs before pulling a new pack, killing them again to top off his Ultimate by the end of the fight.

    This simply is not how it works in VR dungeons on a NB, something you have no experience with I'm sure. Take a backseat, please.

    He doesn't fight 28 mobs in the entire video. If you're going to just run your mouth, why not go to the MMORPG.com forums.
  • concobar
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    lao wrote: »
    awkwarrd wrote: »
    VR12 content is solo-able by DK's.. :o

    the real question is..

    who the *** cares about pve.

    aslong as they get it right in pvp i couldnt care less about what they can do in pve.

    When those V12 DKs own you up because they are decked out in Vet12 gear and you are still in Vet10 you will care about PvE.

    I will still look across the lands from my perch at Arrius, Nerf or no I will still be the Night. I may not be the hero Ebonheart Pact wanted but I will be the hero Ebonheart pact deserves.
  • e.gamemarkb14_ESO
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    cubansyrusb16_ESO wrote: »
    With a sorc that video would be sub 1 minute ..... All he is doing is chugging HP potions, AoE healing, burning talons to hold them and dropping standard.

    There is barely any damage being caused, it just looks impressive.

    The clear issue here, is that 1 person, regardless of what build, gear, skills they are using, is able to solo the newest content, which was meant for a group.

    Really hope Zenimax gets some badly needed balances in play sooner rather then later, more specifically with how cost reductions work on Ultimates and how often we can spam them.

    Frustrating to deal with this in the current build on live, and big reason why I stopped AvA all together. We have lost over 100 players in our alliance who cancelled their subs over these issues, which frankly were well documented and reported in Beta.

    Not sure what it will take to get ZOS to really focus fire on fixing these major imbalance issues, but it's very clear they were well aware of them many months before launch and chose to do nothing.
  • ThreeEyedCrow
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    concobar wrote: »
    When those V12 DKs own you up because they are decked out in Vet12 gear and you are still in Vet10 you will care about PvE.

    Definitely doesn't always work this way in this game. Yes for sure the higher the Vet level the stronger they are naturally from Gear.

    But from v3-v6 I have killed plenty of v10 in PVP 1v1. Equal skill and equal gear, yes the v10 will beat me. But skill does make a bigger difference than shear Vet Rank from my experience in Cyrodiil.
    Edited by ThreeEyedCrow on 8 May 2014 17:49
    V12 Corporal

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  • JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO
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    Mykah wrote: »
    I'd like to point out I don't hate the DK class or resent the OP. I'm sure he's a decent PvEr, and I agree with him Ultimate regeneration using Ultimate abilities is the root issue which allows DKs to solo VR group content, which is OP.

    I only disagree with his theory craft claiming this is possible for a NB to do out of my direct experience playing a NB in VR content, something I don't think he has done.

    In any event, this whole "argument" between posters is pointless as Talons is getting its number of targets capped with the release of 1.1, we will have to wait and see how this effects the meta before calling for nerfs to the DK class.

    I still think Ultimate regeneration should not occur while a Ultimate ability is active, which would bring balance between the instant Ultimate abilities and the time lapse abilities.

    This is on PTS meep meep meep....
    Also no one should be able to solo group content.
    My main is a DK and I'm not going to actb like this is fair (@Darmonic)

    Thisproblem is simple.

    This is NEW group content it shouldn't be solo by anyone.
    Edited by JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO on 8 May 2014 19:12
  • Singular
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    JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO wrote: »

    This is on PTS meep meep meep....
    Also no one should be able to solo group content.
    My main is a DK and I'm not going to actb like this is fair (@Darmonic)

    Thisproblem is simple.

    This is NEW group content it shouldn't be solo by anyone.

    No.

    Anyone with enough skill, tactics and top gear should be able to solo group content.

    Uber players push the boundaries to show you what's possible.
    War, give me war, give me war.
  • NordJitsu
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    The solution is simple.

    Nerf the abilities only for @Attorneyatlawl‌ while keeping them the same for everyone else. That way, we can maintain balance.

    If other players begin demonstrating exceptional skill in the game as well, please reduce only their stats.

    That way everyone will be equally bad. Yay!
    @NordJitsu - Guild Master (Main Character = Hlaalu Idas)
    GREAT HOUSE HLAALU
    ghh.guildlaunch.com/
  • Niffo
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    NordJitsu wrote: »
    The solution is simple.

    Nerf the abilities only for @Attorneyatlawl‌ while keeping them the same for everyone else. That way, we can maintain balance.

    If other players begin demonstrating exceptional skill in the game as well, please reduce only their stats.

    That way everyone will be equally bad. Yay!

    Is playing an overpowered class now considered exceptional skill? That doesn't seem right at all, where are the videos of the other classes doing the same thing without exploiting ai/terrain or anything else, and only using two health pots.
    Edited by Niffo on 10 May 2014 13:10
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    jobo11b16_ESO wrote: »
    NordJitsu wrote: »
    The solution is simple.

    Nerf the abilities only for @Attorneyatlawl‌ while keeping them the same for everyone else. That way, we can maintain balance.

    If other players begin demonstrating exceptional skill in the game as well, please reduce only their stats.

    That way everyone will be equally bad. Yay!

    Is playing an overpowered class now considered exceptional skill? That doesn't seem right at all, where are the videos of the other classes doing the same thing without exploiting ai/terrain or anything else, and only using two health pots.

    I already explained how other classes could do it... I don't have other geared characters on the PTS. I'm not one to normally say much in regards to my skill or not, but it's absolutely not an indication of an overpowered class because one or two people pull off something impressive with it. Even if two classes could and two couldn't on any specific encounter still wouldn't say anything about balance, either, on an overall basis.
    Edited by Attorneyatlawl on 10 May 2014 13:22
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  • Niffo
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    Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

    I already explained how other classes could do it... I don't have other geared characters on the PTS. I'm not one to normally say much in regards to my skill or not, but it's absolutely not an indication of an overpowered class because one or two people pull off something impressive with it.

    Theorycrafting is not the same as posting actual evidence. And a class being able to solo higher level group content does mean it is overpowered, because if the other classes were buffed to that level you would then have to increase the difficulty of the content. You must understand that being able to solo content designed for a group that also happens to be above your level is absolutely an indication of an overpowered class, if not what could you possibly think an overpowered class is?
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    Ker.Rakb16_ESO wrote: »
    You can do the same thing with a sorc.

    Yeah a sorceror friend of mine does similar stuff. he also just blinks/escape bolt out of stuff when it gets heavy.

    The problem is not classes, but how ultimate is gained at the moment. Any class can abuse ultimates with set bonuses etc.
    Edited by monkeymystic on 10 May 2014 15:04
  • Attorneyatlawl
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    monkeymystic wrote: »
    Ker.Rakb16_ESO wrote: »
    You can do the same thing with a sorc.

    Yeah a sorceror friend of mine does similar stuff. he also just blinks/escape bolt out of stuff when it gets heavy.

    The problem is not classes, but how ultimate is gained at the moment. Any class can abuse ultimates with set bonuses etc.

    While ultimate gain is an issue currently insofar as how quickly it's gained, I did not have any ultimate cost reduction gear equipped for the video. :)
    -First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
    Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
    -Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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  • Niffo
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    Attorneyatlawl wrote: »

    While ultimate gain is an issue currently insofar as how quickly it's gained, I did not have any ultimate cost reduction gear equipped for the video. :)

    Being able to generate ultimate while you currently have an ultimate active, ex; dropping standard and generating enough ultimate to drop another standard ontop of the one that already exists. You should not be able to generate ultimate while you have one active, utlimate cost reduction should also be hard capped at a low amount, and no class should have ultimate cost reduction passives. Something with a name like Ultimate shouldn't be available as often as it is right now.
    Edited by Niffo on 10 May 2014 15:35
  • JosephChip
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    So, a video of a DK figuring out how to solo an easy encounter equals dk being op? ***, please. I would really like to slap everyone who cries for nerfs in his face.
  • NordJitsu
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    So, a video of a DK figuring out how to solo an easy encounter equals dk being op? ***, please. I would really like to slap everyone who cries for nerfs in his face.

    No.

    A video of any one doing anything impressive every = that's op because "waaaaaaah I can't do that."
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  • Bayezid
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    Attorneyatlawl wrote: »
    monkeymystic wrote: »
    Ker.Rakb16_ESO wrote: »
    You can do the same thing with a sorc.

    Yeah a sorceror friend of mine does similar stuff. he also just blinks/escape bolt out of stuff when it gets heavy.

    The problem is not classes, but how ultimate is gained at the moment. Any class can abuse ultimates with set bonuses etc.

    While ultimate gain is an issue currently insofar as how quickly it's gained, I did not have any ultimate cost reduction gear equipped for the video. :)

    What points were placed in your attributes?

    For those who believe Nightblade is broken,here watch this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqUyFRaorU
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    attorney...... idk if you have even Played a VR NB before, whether you have or not, your theory would not work. us NBs don't build ults like the DK does. the only ult iv seen a NB use so far which builds fast, is deathstroke, and that is meant for knocking people down, not taking on mobs. idk if you used explots, or if you are just that good, but one person should not be able to solo a dungeon boss(or trial, whatever it is) like that. ESSPECIALLY when they have all those adds. This is one of the reasons why I stopped with PvP. if one guy could solo... that... then there is no point I fighting him in PvP.
    Edited by Cody on 1 June 2014 04:16
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