Please stop stealing chests being worked on.

crowfl56

Well after reading thru the many posts, you can surely tell the evils from the good. Always nice to ident the people that will abuse and take advantage of anyone not as skilled. I'm betting they get bullied in school, sorry.

Jeremy

I don't like the added pressure when someone is hovering over me while I'm trying to open a chest either. So I sympathize.

But I would have to join the general chorus in this thread. it seems to be the design's intent so I don't see it as stealing a chest. More as taking advantage of an opening when one presents itself. Though definitely at the expense and annoyance of someone else. So I would caution players to think twice before doing it, because its likely to start a fight ^^

DragonMother

What I don't like, is when someone comes along and steals the chest while I just finished unlocking it. Really crappy of the player, and just makes me want to keep a list of people like that to name and shame at a later date. I have a long memory....people like that should watch out for themselves.

Arato

crowfl56 wrote: »

Ok folks if you come up on a chest being worked on, please let that person alone. Don't wait for them to fail and immediately take over and basicly steal the chest.
Let them walk away, they got to the chest first, don't be rude.

This happened to me yesterday on a Master chest, missed my first attempt by a tick, with a player just waiting for the steal and sure enough they stole it. I asked them to stop, then reported them.

I know there are those of you that will see this on the side of the thief which is fine, everyone has an opinion.

There is a 5s delay before you can try the chest again for a reason. It is not stealing, it is intended by design that other people get a crack at it before you since you failed.

Lovely

I saw this happen the other day - a mob next to a chest. A person was just waiting there for anyone to come along so he could snag the chest. He wouldn't engage the mob himself, because someone else would have taken the chest.

I bet people don't see anything wrong with this situation either...

Also, people taking nodes when you are making room in your inventory to pick it up / mine it / cut it is probably considered perfectly decent human being behaviour as well...

oldkye

This is a learned behavior from many other MMO's where not only are resources limited(some times with respawn timers in terms of days if not weeks) but are meant to be fought over or even attack other players to control(a bases for many MMO's pvp combat).

Well I agree resources in the game are plentiful enough that "ninja'ing" or "stealing" is not necessary it's a rather normal behavior that I don't feel constitutes being reported or banned if they didn't want someone else to use the chest if you failed they would let you keep trying.

But they don't let you keep trying in fact the game has a lock out timer put in for the sole purpose of letting someone else try if you failed meaning they expect this from us.

Sallakat

Ofc crap moves like most situations described here are cheap, I personally just object to reporting a player like OP did cos that's just stupid. There was a funny joking going on EU Auridon zone chat last night, reason being that if the bots and gold spamming are getting outta hand then so is this reporting for crap reasons; ppl seem to be getting tired if that too.

Morticielle

NiRN wrote: »

I've had plenty of people run up and start jumping up and down, trying to distract me while I'm picking a chest but It doesn't fluster me in the least. I finish opening the chest, loot it and ride my horse away laughing that they wasted their time.

Those soziopathic persons are everywhere. Try to cope with it because complaining only motivates them to hold on to this behaviour.

elvigy01

It's rude(ish) but definitely not a reportable offense. I wouldn't steal it but then, I'm a decent human being heh.

Anyway, worse to me are the people who loot nodes when you are still clearing the mobs that were guarding it. Now that really ticks me off.

Filodendron

As the majority of the people here prove: people are scum. Rule no 1 of MMOs.
To everyone saying "oh but you had your shot and failed, let other people try too" ...this would be a legitimate comment, if this was to happen only for failed chest attempts, but it doesn't.

This game doesn't help either and it appears like devs never played MMOs before, with the dungeons chests and other utopian ideas.

For example a big problem in this game for a lot of people is the inventory space and people know this so every time some goes to loot a chest or resource node they go there aswell in hope that the one who opened first doesn't have room in his/her inventory.
Now in any decent game you can easily open your inventory, throw out the worms and loot your chest/node, but not in ESO. Here if you open your inventory you lose the loot right and the scum is waiting for you.

Recently i saw a chest in a tent and right outside there was a mob and 2 people at a safe distance watching. Why were they camping there? to have someone attack the mobs so they can go straight for the chest. Both saw the chest but knew that based on rule 1 of MMOs if one attempted to kill the mob in order to get the chest the other would screw him over and steal it.

Or how about the people who pull mobs over you to interrupt your chest opening attempt? but yeah i probably made that up, cause people care for another.

Tarwin

Yup, I'd say if you fail, then you should respect that there is a lineup to attempt the unlock and step aside to let someone else try

SuperScrubby

I don't see any issue with the situation you described OP. You failed on a chest, you now have you go to the back of the line before you can try again and get the prize. It sounds like you're being selfish because you want to keep trying and trying to get the cracker jack prize.

The only way I see it as stealing is if you attack a mob to get a chest and someone swoops in and takes it. Or if someone jacks the loot when you open up the chest. Those are the only 2 instances in my opinion that would warrant disdain. Otherwise whether you missed it by a tick or a tock or a mile or a millimeter you still missed it. But to come in to the forums and complain that someone else is better at picking locks than you and to report that individual? It sounds no different than a spoiled kid trying to cut in line at the carnival after not winning the giant pink elephant.

Let me burst your bubble, chests are garbage drops that hardly warrant the effort it takes to break down the mats. Unless its a CE chest which can't be stolen they only offer mediocre exp that you could get faster anyways. Even if you get a treasure map in the chest it's still leads to more garbage. There now you don't feel so bad having your giant pink elephant "stolen" from you.

Medwin

If you fail and someone got there second, they should get to try second. You had your chance and you blew it. Now if you are killing mobs for a chest and someone runs past you for it they are a scum bag.

SirAndy

Soul1172 wrote: »

you realy are naive... look around - there always survive the strongest - and thats not rudness - thats what happens everyday in nature...

@Soul1172
Actually, if you pulled a move like that on me in "nature" (real life) i'd be giving you a lesson in "survival of the strongest" you wouldn't forget for the rest of your life.

But, since this is a online game, you get to continue to live large in your fantasy world ...

Septimus_Magna

If you fail to open a chest someone else has the right to try it, it isn't hard at all so 98% of the time the first person will get the items in the chest.

Also a tip for a you treasure hunter out there, remember where the chests are because they respawn fairly often. I especially try to remember chests close to wayshines because you can collect them 2-3 times each night and it only takes a minute to check if they've respawned.

McUsher

And another tipp:
The addon HarvestMap @ http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info57-HarvestMapEsoheadMarkers.html will remember the location you found a chest at. Markers will show up on your compass so you can easily revisit it, when your close... (Also works for crafting resources of course )

Jeremy

Filodendron wrote: »

This game doesn't help either and it appears like devs never played MMOs before, with the dungeons chests and other utopian ideas.

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You can definitely tell they are more accustomed to designing single-player games rather multi-player ones.

Hopefully they will learn as the game progresses and adapt to make the game more multi-player friendly. I'm willing to give them some time to do it too. I hope others are.

vince131nub18_ESO

lrn 2 lockpick

vince131nub18_ESO

crowfl56 wrote: »

oops never fail BS

i played morrowind where the lockpick was the same so i had lots of practice i too have rarely missed a chest im picking.

Blackwolfe5

Let's see.. since I started playing ESO almost two weeks ago, I've failed at opening perhaps one or two chests at most and those were advanced ones.

Practice that lockpicking people! If you fail, it's your own fault if someone else grabs it.

athanasios

C' est la vie, my friend... Be fast, be good @ lockpicking and the chest is yours...

Shiaxi

vince131nub18_ESO wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

oops never fail BS

i played morrowind where the lockpick was the same so i had lots of practice i too have rarely missed a chest im picking.

actually morrowind had no skill based game for lock picking; it was equip a lockpick and "attack" the door with it... you just succeeded or failed.

oblivion had a mini game that was sorta like the one used in eso; use the lockpick to push the tumbler up and click at the right time to lock the tumbler into place; harder then the mini game in eso, however without a time limit.

Covarnis

I personally would not pick the chest another one is working on. However it is in game mechanics, and I think it's OK. You missed it from 1st try, somebody didn't.

You would maybe want memorise the player and not group with him later, if you do not like his/her play style.

Like in life - it's good that people can make choices about their behaviour and face some kind of consequence.

vince131nub18_ESO

Shiaxi wrote: »

vince131nub18_ESO wrote: »

crowfl56 wrote: »

oops never fail BS

i played morrowind where the lockpick was the same so i had lots of practice i too have rarely missed a chest im picking.

actually morrowind had no skill based game for lock picking; it was equip a lockpick and "attack" the door with it... you just succeeded or failed.

oblivion had a mini game that was sorta like the one used in eso; use the lockpick to push the tumbler up and click at the right time to lock the tumbler into place; harder then the mini game in eso, however without a time limit.

my bad oblivion

jircris11

today on newb island i watched someone fail 7 times on a chest before i snuck in and opened it..after opening the lock i moved away so they could loot the chest. im in no need of the items i enjoy the challenge of opening the locks.

Loxy37

I never do it but I will race someone to a chest and if I win then tough luck and if they win, I leave them too it. If someone steals a node from me, like im grinding too it and they see, run in and steal, I make it my mission to follow them and do exactly the same back, works wonders and I get a fuzzy feeling inside!

Beryl

Such discussions pop up on forums and in zone&guild chats quite often. I personally can't stand when other players are waiting for someone to fail, or racing to some resource and laugh (the laughing part is the annoying part here). It is a PvE land and all those small competitions make it feel like PvP. I am not playing RPG games to compete for resources. It reminds me picking mushrooms or berries in a real forest - you have an unspoken right to the territory where you collect resources. If you see a mushroom and another person going towards it, you leave it and greet the other person. You do not take the mushroom in front of his nose and feel proud of your quickness. At least that's my real life experience, the way I was brought up, and also the way of behaviour I bring to MMO PvE games. After many years of gaming I found that all people which I consider interesting and mature and with which I tend to group for dungeons and other PvE challenges have the same approach to the open worlds resources as I have. So, back to ESO, when I see someone regularly "stealing" chests or even bragging in a chat about how fast he was and how angry "that loser" became, I simply add such person to my ignore list. I know we have different playstyle (and probably lifestyle) and it is better if our paths never cross.

Zargorius

Quick,

NordJitsu

crowfl56 wrote: »

Well after reading thru the many posts, you can surely tell the evils from the good. Always nice to ident the people that will abuse and take advantage of anyone not as skilled. I'm betting they get bullied in school, sorry.

You can also tell the difference between the entitled and those with self-accountability.

You failed. Someone else succeeded. Deal with it. Improve.

PBpsy

I only try to do that if you are the *** that sees me fighting with the mobs near that chest and you rush past by to the chest.
I think they should probably make the locks harder, more worthwhile and increase the amount of time you need to wait when you fail. In my opinion more people having a go at it is more fair then the guy who runs faster at the chest getting dibs.