NA Chrysamere Campaign Thread

OtarTheMad

It boosted our morale, which is what we all needed. Hopefully this campaign stays balanced and fun cause no side likes being on the bottom all the time.

OtarTheMad

LoL SwampRaider yeah the Army helped us but you guys attack a lot the early morning when there is no defense to stop you yourselves. Like today, I log on at 11am my time (East Coast) and it says that Raza has been Emperor for just over 2 hours... not only that but you took the 3 keeps we had, all the keeps EP had which was 6(ish) and both our scrolls and the 4 EP had... so... when did that attack start... 630-7am??? Maybe sooner?? LoL... easy to attack when no one is around my friend.

Venithar

OtarTheMad wrote: »

LoL SwampRaider yeah the Army helped us but you guys attack a lot the early morning when there is no defense to stop you yourselves. Like today, I log on at 11am my time (East Coast) and it says that Raza has been Emperor for just over 2 hours... not only that but you took the 3 keeps we had, all the keeps EP had which was 6(ish) and both our scrolls and the 4 EP had... so... when did that attack start... 630-7am??? Maybe sooner?? LoL... easy to attack when no one is around my friend.

And we did it all with 10 people.

Aside from that, we did it to reclaim what was rightfully ours. All the AJSA kiddies did was take everything and leave you in the same spot you were before, actually worse off, since we were trying to let you guys have your home keeps and all that back before we started fighting again. Instead, we had to go take the entire map to take back our scrolls and our emperor.

OtarTheMad

Venithar wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

LoL SwampRaider yeah the Army helped us but you guys attack a lot the early morning when there is no defense to stop you yourselves. Like today, I log on at 11am my time (East Coast) and it says that Raza has been Emperor for just over 2 hours... not only that but you took the 3 keeps we had, all the keeps EP had which was 6(ish) and both our scrolls and the 4 EP had... so... when did that attack start... 630-7am??? Maybe sooner?? LoL... easy to attack when no one is around my friend.

And we did it all with 10 people.

Aside from that, we did it to reclaim what was rightfully ours. All the AJSA kiddies did was take everything and leave you in the same spot you were before, actually worse off, since we were trying to let you guys have your home keeps and all that back before we started fighting again. Instead, we had to go take the entire map to take back our scrolls and our emperor.

Fair, but every time we got as far as Faregyl you guys have your guild come and wipe us out, since usually you out number us and sign in all at once. I respect that you were going to let us have our home keeps back and thanks but you aren't exactly doing that either. Like I said though, easy to attack when no one is on. Most likely even if we did reclaim Bloodmayne, Black Boot, Faregyl, Alessia, Roe in a day you guys would just log on when we're sleeping and take them uncontested.

Now that Ebonheart Pact is more competitive, which is great to see and we're trying to rally some troops maybe some time in the near future this campaign will be balanced and fun but the 2-7am raids aren't helping keep people in the campaign, lol, just saying. I'm not a fan of becoming an insomniac just to defend our keeps.

Oh and you didn't have to take the entire map to get emperor or your 2 scrolls back because 1. You only need the 6 keeps around Imperial City and 2. EP had your scrolls by then not us. You took our and EP's keep because you could and were probably mad that the Angry Army came and helped us.

ElectricBlue97

Venithar wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

LoL SwampRaider yeah the Army helped us but you guys attack a lot the early morning when there is no defense to stop you yourselves. Like today, I log on at 11am my time (East Coast) and it says that Raza has been Emperor for just over 2 hours... not only that but you took the 3 keeps we had, all the keeps EP had which was 6(ish) and both our scrolls and the 4 EP had... so... when did that attack start... 630-7am??? Maybe sooner?? LoL... easy to attack when no one is around my friend.

And we did it all with 10 people.

Aside from that, we did it to reclaim what was rightfully ours. All the AJSA kiddies did was take everything and leave you in the same spot you were before, actually worse off, since we were trying to let you guys have your home keeps and all that back before we started fighting again. Instead, we had to go take the entire map to take back our scrolls and our emperor.

If your gonna be a prick you don't need to lie to us as well. You and your
cronies weren't planing on giving us an inch past fareg. So don't insult us with a load of bull *** as if a bucket of lies is going to solve anything. Joe's army came of their own accord and your just upset because you see what its like to be drastically out numbered. So please take your hypocracy elsewhere

Venithar

ElectricBlue97 wrote: »

Venithar wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

LoL SwampRaider yeah the Army helped us but you guys attack a lot the early morning when there is no defense to stop you yourselves. Like today, I log on at 11am my time (East Coast) and it says that Raza has been Emperor for just over 2 hours... not only that but you took the 3 keeps we had, all the keeps EP had which was 6(ish) and both our scrolls and the 4 EP had... so... when did that attack start... 630-7am??? Maybe sooner?? LoL... easy to attack when no one is around my friend.

And we did it all with 10 people.

Aside from that, we did it to reclaim what was rightfully ours. All the AJSA kiddies did was take everything and leave you in the same spot you were before, actually worse off, since we were trying to let you guys have your home keeps and all that back before we started fighting again. Instead, we had to go take the entire map to take back our scrolls and our emperor.

If your gonna be a prick you don't need to lie to us as well. You and your
cronies weren't planing on giving us an inch past fareg. So don't insult us with a load of bull *** as if a bucket of lies is going to solve anything. Joe's army came of their own accord and your just upset because you see what its like to be drastically out numbered. So please take your hypocracy elsewhere

Hypocrisy? You should probably talk with Fangledor or Mu Mu, I think both of them can attest to the fact we have very few people (20-40) around normally and Fangledor can attest to the fact we offered you guys back your home keeps. The only time my guild actively participates is when Glademist would come under attack, however; some other guild claimed it when we took things back, so as a guild, until we claim our keep back, we won't defend (that doesn't mean guild members won't go there on their own, but the guild was only required to be there when our home keep was under attack). Furthermore, we needed to take everything because we had all those scrolls until everyone guested into the campaign (meaning we needed to take back OUR scrolls).

Edit: Otar, there is nothing I can do about those that push you guys back from faregyl, in 95% of those cases we tell them to stop so they don't chase you guys out of the campaign and in 99% of the cases, they ignore us.

OtarTheMad

Venithar wrote: »

ElectricBlue97 wrote: »

Venithar wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

LoL SwampRaider yeah the Army helped us but you guys attack a lot the early morning when there is no defense to stop you yourselves. Like today, I log on at 11am my time (East Coast) and it says that Raza has been Emperor for just over 2 hours... not only that but you took the 3 keeps we had, all the keeps EP had which was 6(ish) and both our scrolls and the 4 EP had... so... when did that attack start... 630-7am??? Maybe sooner?? LoL... easy to attack when no one is around my friend.

And we did it all with 10 people.

Aside from that, we did it to reclaim what was rightfully ours. All the AJSA kiddies did was take everything and leave you in the same spot you were before, actually worse off, since we were trying to let you guys have your home keeps and all that back before we started fighting again. Instead, we had to go take the entire map to take back our scrolls and our emperor.

If your gonna be a prick you don't need to lie to us as well. You and your
cronies weren't planing on giving us an inch past fareg. So don't insult us with a load of bull *** as if a bucket of lies is going to solve anything. Joe's army came of their own accord and your just upset because you see what its like to be drastically out numbered. So please take your hypocracy elsewhere

Hypocrisy? You should probably talk with Fangledor or Mu Mu, I think both of them can attest to the fact we have very few people (20-40) around normally and Fangledor can attest to the fact we offered you guys back your home keeps. The only time my guild actively participates is when Glademist would come under attack, however; some other guild claimed it when we took things back, so as a guild, until we claim our keep back, we won't defend (that doesn't mean guild members won't go there on their own, but the guild was only required to be there when our home keep was under attack). Furthermore, we needed to take everything because we had all those scrolls until everyone guested into the campaign (meaning we needed to take back OUR scrolls).

Edit: Otar, there is nothing I can do about those that push you guys back from faregyl, in 95% of those cases we tell them to stop so they don't chase you guys out of the campaign and in 99% of the cases, they ignore us.

I'm in two guilds with Fang so he has mentioned it and I've been told by you guys before myself about your numbers, and I believe you. It's not like we don't expect any resistance at all when we take a keep, that would be kind of weird. Last night we were able to take Alessia (although I have not signed on today but I assume it's gone) also took Drakelowe and Sejanus, by the time we hit Sejanus which we hit after meeting heavy defense by you guys at Roe, we had a full group... for the first time all day. Then we headed to Drake and still had that full group but by the time we got back to the heavily defended Roe most of the group had signed off cause it was late when it seemed more of you guys were signing on.

Again I thank you for trying to balance the campaign and "leave us alone" so that new players and some old ones don't just leave the campaign for another. Once our numbers are up again we can make this fun and I hope that the new Ebonheart players stick around as well. As much as you guys laugh and probably crap on the Angry Army for guesting I do not think you know what it really did for us. I have been in this campaign since early access but have been in and out of the campaign for quite some time, I dropped in the Top 20 of the leaderboard and almost completely out cause PvP was just pointless but when they came in and also some unrelated new players came in they saw the fun we were having and the morale was up. We all knew it was temporary but we needed the morale boost and also the population to actually grow. So it was good because morale was up, new players came in and didn't see an empty campaign where there was no AD players anymore and the past few days even I have played in the campaign more and last night almost got to the Top 10 on the leaderboard.

It's sad that some of your guys don't listen to the leader(s) of the guild(s) but maybe they will get it someday. I hope that it doesn't take an empty campaign and them going "this is so boring... maybe those guys were right" to realize that since this is a game... people want to have FUN... lol.. not be frustrated and beaten down and have all the keeps they played hard for just taken over night by some insomniac-ridden group. We still have a long way to go in this campaign so we'll see what the numbers look like in a week or so. Just saying though that as of this writing (11:15am EDT) if I sign in some time soon I expect Alessia retaken, Sejanus, and maybe even Faregyl and the two others and I know some of the new people and even some of us veterans in the campaign will just say "screw this, I'm gonna go to pve". If I'm wrong that's good but... history writes a different story.

SwampRaider

@otarthemad

So DC has been having issues lately. Our population is hanging by a thread. 2 weeks ago, we lost a 30 person guild who joined Hopesfire and a whole bunch of other randoms who left due to a dead campaign. Also, our PVP guild..half the time doesn't pvp anymore.(work in progress)

what does this mean? well, DC only has 10-25 people on now(it's scary as hell with 10 people on). This means that EP and AD could easily dethrone us. The balance of power surely has shifted somewhat.

Dominating the campaign has been bad for even the Dominant, since most DC randoms left to go to other camps.

I know you don't realize this at the moment, but we are having trouble holding the map together with our numbers now. and since EP has a 100+ zerg guest in every week(some guild called TsYM), Power is slowly shifting.

OtarTheMad

SwampRaider wrote: »

@otarthemad

So DC has been having issues lately. Our population is hanging by a thread. 2 weeks ago, we lost a 30 person guild who joined Hopesfire and a whole bunch of other randoms who left due to a dead campaign. Also, our PVP guild..half the time doesn't pvp anymore.(work in progress)

what does this mean? well, DC only has 10-25 people on now(it's scary as hell with 10 people on). This means that EP and AD could easily dethrone us. The balance of power surely has shifted somewhat.

Dominating the campaign has been bad for even the Dominant, since most DC randoms left to go to other camps.

I know you don't realize this at the moment, but we are having trouble holding the map together with our numbers now. and since EP has a 100+ zerg guest in every week(some guild called TsYM), Power is slowly shifting.

Yeah it is scary with only 10 people on, lol, that's pretty much us most of the time. I do feel the power kind of shifting because yesterday we actually had the most keeps out of the alliances, which was weird. Also EP had the majority of the scrolls which was odd because when I went to bed the other night you guys had them, so... they pulled a "you" and must have taken them when all was asleep.

I don't think any alliance should completely dominate, that would be boring and suck for the other players in the other alliances. What balances things out for you guys with the lack of numbers is all of the Veteran Rank 10's you guys have. You have what? 7 or 8? That helps out a lot, we have 2 if I recall and 3 or so that are close.

Yesterday was an interesting day because both of our alliances were kind of at a stand still, which was great. That fight in the field near Blue Road, and at Alessia bridge was probably the most fun I've had in this campaign in a long time. Although most of us left around midnight (my time) and you guys were still attacking, oh well. Losing isn't so bad when you know that you can just as easily get the keep or outpost back with a good strategy and it makes it competitive.

We in AD seem to put up the most resistance, although yeah Ebonheart Pact seems to be making a comeback, and yet we might have a full group on a good day. We usually roll with probably about 10-15, weekends we could get to a full group and maybe even enough for half of a second... maybe.

The guilds I'm in are still forming up and trying to establish members and get some consistent PvP play by a good amount of players each day which is a challenge. I hope that your guild stays so that we can have some fun, competitive and balanced battles.

MarisGolding

Great night of back of forth again. Infinity order is still recruiting for pvp and EP. We had about 15 members on together last night. If you want to join us just message @Maris Golding or Arcanus.

OtarTheMad

@SwampRaider‌
@Venithar‌
@MarisGolding‌

I just want to make you guys aware that we have someone here on AD who is looking to sabotage us and crown themselves Emperor by screwing us over in the other AD guilds. Why this affects you guys is because they would like us to basically leave the campaign so they could be on top of the leaderboard and use some exploits as Emperor. So they could take on an entire zerg. We are not part of his group and even often times wonder what he is doing and why we is trying to f us over. If you have questions, comments on this please PM or whisper Thalgorn or Fangledor or even me I'm Althrimir. I think we all want the same thing here and that's a fun and balanced campaign and this kind of stuff is going to ruin it for all of our alliances/guilds. We don't want any of you guys to leave so we just wanted to let you know.

SwampRaider

we are aware of the situation, there's nothing we can do about it, but not feed his group AP. That which itself is hard, because he goes wherever you go. We apologize that this is happening to you.

The best way for him to get AP is to follow wherever the group goes.

Our current strategy was just to take emperor again and crown someone current who actually plays. Maybe this Saboteur will now run in fear with a fire ballista aimed at him. Silly Vampire.

btw fun night last night. The past week we thought we never will get emperor again. all 30 of us were surprised we pulled it of

@OtarTheMad‌

OtarTheMad

@SwampRaider.

Yeah, the last week or so have been pretty fun and balanced. Last night was fun for a while but then it just got "ugly" for us. It's been a lot of fun but as you may know by now the AD guilds are pulling out and finding just a more balanced campaign. Pushing us to the Elsweyr Gates and keeping us from doing stuff again was just another slap in the face to us. Have fun guys.

MarisGolding

Last night surely felt like there was a lot of guesting going on. Still a lot of imbalance between vet ranks and certain factions. Guess EP folks still need to level more. Oh and Black Hand says he can 1 v 1 anyone. Big talk for a vet 10. His build is amazing. He said so himself. Lol what a tool. In all seriousness, the imbalance kinda sucked. Everyone will remember that though, at least my people will.

JacobJ

Well, you have finally done it. Have fun playing by yourselves DC. Most of our AD players have just left the campaign, and aren't coming back. They have given up and moved to another campaign, but honestly I probably will too because Chrysamere is absolutely miserable and is no fun at all to play on. So again, good job on getting Emperor again, looks like you will keep it for a good long while this time, maybe even until the campaign ends because nobody is going to be there to fight you from AD side except a bunch of randoms.

SwampRaider

OtarTheMad wrote: »

@SwampRaider.

Yeah, the last week or so have been pretty fun and balanced. Last night was fun for a while but then it just got "ugly" for us. It's been a lot of fun but as you may know by now the AD guilds are pulling out and finding just a more balanced campaign. Pushing us to the Elsweyr Gates and keeping us from doing stuff again was just another slap in the face to us. Have fun guys.

I apologize that people after taking the scrolls, didn't listen to "go pvp somewhere else until AD regains territory". It happens. Cant control everyone.

@MarisGolding‌ There was no guesting going on that night. We just had 2 keeps to go until we got emperor, so we asked our guildies that were PVEing to just hop in and help the push.

tmbandbuddy_ESO

The whole situation was ridiculous. We had DC down our throats and being flat out disrespectful, camping us at out gates on multiple occasions. The game play alone has been a pain, as it gets rather annoying be a few hits away from killing someone and they either A: Mist Form away or B: Bolt Escapes away *Looks at Black Hand*. On top of that, there is a very dramatic difference in the amount of V10s on each Alliances side, with AD having 1 most days, DC having around 5-8 everyday, and for EP I haven't seen one yet. On top of that DC started recruiting for more folks on forums the moment the campaign started to balance out, despite the fact we still couldn't push pash Nikel without getting zerged by DC. On a final note, now one of our own players went rouge using some exploit to fly through the leaderboards and basically saying he's going to exploit Emperorship when and if he gets it. No one wants to stay in a campaign this distraught, and I wish the best of luck to EP fighting if they choose to stay and the best of luck to DC as it seems you won't have much fighting anymore and will have to spend your time mist forming and bolt escaping away from deers and such.

-Thalgorn

MarisGolding

lol maybe black hand will finally meet his match 1 v 1ing deer

ArcanusMagus

Sure, this is a blow to the server, but let's calm down and see how this plays out. A day or two doesn't mean much when the campaign is ninety days. Also, EP is still levelling. The highest level EP that I know of is v7. I'm v5 as are a few others. Things look bad now for EP and AD, but that doesn't mean that things will always be so during this campaign.

Also, @SwampRaider, I was the one who had suggested to Maris that there was alot of guesting happening. Indeed, I believed there was. However, if there was a large influx of pvers or infrequent pvpers, as you suggest, that would account for the new names I saw that night. I apologize for the assumption, though I am certain that you would understand why I would come to that conclusion given the server's rather dramatic guesting incidents lately.

SwampRaider

It really is hard to keep a few *** from camping the gates. Can't control everyone. As far as i know, 99% of the guild I am a part of did not participate in the gate camping.

sorry that 15 of you AD left the campaign, AD made an impressive push at 4am EST this morning when their were only 10 DC on(took a scroll and some inner keeps). But Lizzykat tells me that it was probably that Vet guild called TJJTDS that may or may not be helping out the new AD player that wants emperor.

Most of the VR5-10's on the DC side you saw, are PVE'rs in our guild that rarely PVP and only came in to help the Crowning, since we only had enough people on to either assault or defend a keep.

I love chrysamere, It is the only campaign I know of that doesn't have too many DK Vamps. lol.

OtarTheMad

lol... maris... bets on who would win that?? lol.

Yeah I am almost 100% sure that TJJTDS is (insert known name here) guild. I do not think that DC needed to recruit as things were starting to get real great, like Thal said. One day we had a few open battles on random fields around Sejanus and Blue Road and that was just epic, honestly was just a blast. For once that day- up to a few days ago it felt like anyone could win... us in AD, EP or even DC keeping things. I mean EP was soooo close to getting an Emperor, it was fun and then we saw some influx of new and never heard of VR 10's on DC. As much as some of you DC have thought that we have like 50 + in AD we usually only had about maybe 20 people on, might get a full group once a week or so depending. (I don't count "his" group, they just create more work for us usually and they didn't usually roll with us.)

I believe you SwampRaider when you do say that you're guild was not part of the camping, or at least the majority who want a fun campaign but the fact is it happened. I would love to continue the optimism that Arcanus has shown, like I have in the past with this campaign especially since I have been in it since Early Release and I hit lvl 10 but I just can't. I wish AD and EP the best and also the DC members who aren't assclowns as well, it was fun playing with you. I am sure if things continue to slide downhill more than just 15 of us will leave... and honestly it's kind of a shame, but oh well.

tmbandbuddy_ESO

I'd like to point out I don't hate DC, I just have an issue with how some players choose to play the game, though most of y'all were a lot of fun to fight. I will miss the campaign, hope y'all have fun! Good luck with Mu Mu, hopefully he doesn't hit emperor and ruin the campaign further. Might as well use his name, we all know who we're talking about.

Calidor

I cannot believe people are complaining about an enemy taking keeps. You know what? I don't sit in Cyrodiil 24/7. I played some after hitting level 10 and then went to PvE until I hit VR1-2. Came back to have some fun now.

The groups I have been in (DC) over the weekend had 10-16 players MAX. Most often those slots were filled with people who logged out but were not kicked.

If YOUR realms cannot even field 1 full group EACH, please do not blame the enemy. One real PvP guild should be able to field a group on each side.

JacobJ

I guess i'm the only one who will tell you guys. Mu mu never said he was using some kind of exploit or hack to get emperor. He merely said that AD needs an Emperor that knows how to use the emperor powers to keep emperor. All these people are complaining about how he is trying to get Emp so he can ruin the campaign and such, but this simply isn't true. *** is a guy like everyone else who just wants Emperor, he gets as many points as he does b/c he and his guild are organized and pvp a lot. There is no reason to bash the guy and say he is a cheater because somebody twisted his words around to make him look like the bad guy. He just meant that he knows how to use the emp skills to defend and take keeps like using the extra siege damage against attackers, extra healing, ult gain etc.

OtarTheMad

Calidor wrote: »

I cannot believe people are complaining about an enemy taking keeps. You know what? I don't sit in Cyrodiil 24/7. I played some after hitting level 10 and then went to PvE until I hit VR1-2. Came back to have some fun now.

The groups I have been in (DC) over the weekend had 10-16 players MAX. Most often those slots were filled with people who logged out but were not kicked.

If YOUR realms cannot even field 1 full group EACH, please do not blame the enemy. One real PvP guild should be able to field a group on each side.

For me it's not about you DC guys taking enemy keeps and stuff that bothers me so much, it happens... it's a game however it happening constantly where we have Zero across the board is just depressing. You have not been in PvP (by your own words) to see and realize just how much AD was beaten down constantly. Ever lose all of the time? You do look at the score of the campaign right? See that DC is on top of the other two by some insane amount?

Every time we'd recruit new people it seems they'd look at the score or the map and just bail, so if we didn't get players who were already in the campaign and dedicated then it was not easy to obtain new members for our guilds. I just wanted to be part of a campaign where winning was a factor and also fun. Of course you'll lose sometimes, but you have to feel like you can win. Every time I played in Chyrsamere I felt like it was a constant fight to just get Bloodmayne and Black Boot ours again.

Plus it seems like more often times than not we'd have a good day in AD, take maybe 4 keeps in a day and everyone would feel great. Fun battles, defenses, overcoming DC/EP defenses etc. Then they log in the next day only to find out that because of time zones or insomnia all the keeps that we took were taken back while we all slept, that is deflating.

tmbandbuddy_ESO

JacobJ wrote: »

I guess i'm the only one who will tell you guys. Mu mu never said he was using some kind of exploit or hack to get emperor. He merely said that AD needs an Emperor that knows how to use the emperor powers to keep emperor. All these people are complaining about how he is trying to get Emp so he can ruin the campaign and such, but this simply isn't true. *** is a guy like everyone else who just wants Emperor, he gets as many points as he does b/c he and his guild are organized and pvp a lot. There is no reason to bash the guy and say he is a cheater because somebody twisted his words around to make him look like the bad guy. He just meant that he knows how to use the emp skills to defend and take keeps like using the extra siege damage against attackers, extra healing, ult gain etc.

We were informed by some DC caught him using an oil exploit t, and I walked into a tower with him all alone and some oil set up. Not sure about the specifics of the exploit, though what evidence there is would point to it. Also he flew through the ranks rather fast. On top of that he stated that with him or one of his guildies as Emperor, would be able to "take on a entire zerg all alone"(Not exactly sure how someone could do that without exploiting something, and yes those are his words quoted). We aren't making mad accusations and twisting his words, we do have reasoning to believe he's cheating, and quite a few of us do.

Calidor

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Calidor wrote: »

I cannot believe people are complaining about an enemy taking keeps. You know what? I don't sit in Cyrodiil 24/7. I played some after hitting level 10 and then went to PvE until I hit VR1-2. Came back to have some fun now.

The groups I have been in (DC) over the weekend had 10-16 players MAX. Most often those slots were filled with people who logged out but were not kicked.

If YOUR realms cannot even field 1 full group EACH, please do not blame the enemy. One real PvP guild should be able to field a group on each side.

For me it's not about you DC guys taking enemy keeps and stuff that bothers me so much, it happens... it's a game however it happening constantly where we have Zero across the board is just depressing. You have not been in PvP (by your own words) to see and realize just how much AD was beaten down constantly. Ever lose all of the time? You do look at the score of the campaign right? See that DC is on top of the other two by some insane amount?

Every time we'd recruit new people it seems they'd look at the score or the map and just bail, so if we didn't get players who were already in the campaign and dedicated then it was not easy to obtain new members for our guilds. I just wanted to be part of a campaign where winning was a factor and also fun. Of course you'll lose sometimes, but you have to feel like you can win. Every time I played in Chyrsamere I felt like it was a constant fight to just get Bloodmayne and Black Boot ours again.

Plus it seems like more often times than not we'd have a good day in AD, take maybe 4 keeps in a day and everyone would feel great. Fun battles, defenses, overcoming DC/EP defenses etc. Then they log in the next day only to find out that because of time zones or insomnia all the keeps that we took were taken back while we all slept, that is deflating.

I played on DAOC Palomides server as Hibernia. We were a ridiculously outnumbered realm. Albions had at least 50% of the server population. Mid probably 30 and Hib 20 (being generous). We got our butts kicked sure, but it just fostered realm pride. The enemy had a large number of Oceanic players and often PvB (player versus building) and took all our relics over night or while we were at work/school. We formed alliances with Midguard when needed, we planned, we schemed, we fought back. We didn't go crying that Albion should leave us a few keeps. We didn't quit/reroll.

To this date that experience was the absolute BEST I have ever had online. Even though we got our butts kicked regularly. We actually had PRIDE.

If 2 realms cannot field 30 people combined on a weekend in primetime for RvR the problem is not with DC taking keeps. It's that Zenimax gave people an easy way to hop servers (don't like the look of yours.. just GUEST.. or change your HOME server) instead of actually having to fight and take ownership. So instead of having Realm Pride and toughing it out, they whine, blame the enemy for not playing nice, and leave.

One mistake Zenimax made was making the initial Campaigns 90 days. That was a silly thing to do, especially with how easy they made it for people to take the easy way out and just change their campaign.

OtarTheMad

Calidor wrote: »

OtarTheMad wrote: »

Calidor wrote: »

I cannot believe people are complaining about an enemy taking keeps. You know what? I don't sit in Cyrodiil 24/7. I played some after hitting level 10 and then went to PvE until I hit VR1-2. Came back to have some fun now.

The groups I have been in (DC) over the weekend had 10-16 players MAX. Most often those slots were filled with people who logged out but were not kicked.

If YOUR realms cannot even field 1 full group EACH, please do not blame the enemy. One real PvP guild should be able to field a group on each side.

For me it's not about you DC guys taking enemy keeps and stuff that bothers me so much, it happens... it's a game however it happening constantly where we have Zero across the board is just depressing. You have not been in PvP (by your own words) to see and realize just how much AD was beaten down constantly. Ever lose all of the time? You do look at the score of the campaign right? See that DC is on top of the other two by some insane amount?

Every time we'd recruit new people it seems they'd look at the score or the map and just bail, so if we didn't get players who were already in the campaign and dedicated then it was not easy to obtain new members for our guilds. I just wanted to be part of a campaign where winning was a factor and also fun. Of course you'll lose sometimes, but you have to feel like you can win. Every time I played in Chyrsamere I felt like it was a constant fight to just get Bloodmayne and Black Boot ours again.

Plus it seems like more often times than not we'd have a good day in AD, take maybe 4 keeps in a day and everyone would feel great. Fun battles, defenses, overcoming DC/EP defenses etc. Then they log in the next day only to find out that because of time zones or insomnia all the keeps that we took were taken back while we all slept, that is deflating.

I played on DAOC Palomides server as Hibernia. We were a ridiculously outnumbered realm. Albions had at least 50% of the server population. Mid probably 30 and Hib 20 (being generous). We got our butts kicked sure, but it just fostered realm pride. The enemy had a large number of Oceanic players and often PvB (player versus building) and took all our relics over night or while we were at work/school. We formed alliances with Midguard when needed, we planned, we schemed, we fought back. We didn't go crying that Albion should leave us a few keeps. We didn't quit/reroll.

To this date that experience was the absolute BEST I have ever had online. Even though we got our butts kicked regularly. We actually had PRIDE.

If 2 realms cannot field 30 people combined on a weekend in primetime for RvR the problem is not with DC taking keeps. It's that Zenimax gave people an easy way to hop servers (don't like the look of yours.. just GUEST.. or change your HOME server) instead of actually having to fight and take ownership. So instead of having Realm Pride and toughing it out, they whine, blame the enemy for not playing nice, and leave.

One mistake Zenimax made was making the initial Campaigns 90 days. That was a silly thing to do, especially with how easy they made it for people to take the easy way out and just change their campaign.

Well just super for you but basically a lot of us just weren't having fun anymore so we did switch home campaigns. I felt like we didn't have a chance to really keep anything we took for longer than 24 hrs. which honestly I didn't see a point to even PvPing.

You can call us out and say that those of us who left don't have pride or took the easy way out but I think that's easy to say when you weren't us. It's wasn't solely about the constant beat down it was a few different things that made such switch campaigns but I don't think you get what I am trying to explain so I'm not going to continue to do so.

Calidor

I do get what you were saying. You wanted a sporting match with even teams. A game with a score. Not a war.

Nothing wrong with what you want... different strokes for different folks. I just want opponents that will dig in and fight back.

Again, the problem was with Zenimax making it easy for people to simply switch campaigns and run away instead of having to band together, form bonds and develop Realm Pride.

MarisGolding

My guild just decided we are going to level to vet 10 together. Then we are coming into chrysamere and piling corpses on one another. We didn't leave, just waiting to balance things out level wise.