The nightmare that is enchanting

Sneakyfool

There is nothing wrong with Enchanting or the XP. I'm already level 30

Guess I better get to making a guide so people can see where they are going wrong!

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

To be honest, enchanting is where it needs to be, everything else including character leveling is much to fast.

reggielee

im running out of room due to stupid runes sitting there but I cant use them as I am not the proper rune level. Yet I can not find the needed runes in enough quantity in order to unlock the next level. Its rediculous. Im faced with just cramming the damn things on a closet alt and forgetting it till they fix the exp/drop rate. no way in hell am i going to vendor/trash/sell them as they were bloody hard enough to find in the first place.

poodlemasterb16_ESO

Putok wrote: »

I also think it's probably bugged. It's comically slow compared to everything else.

I've given up on leveling it and will be hoarding mats until it's fixed.

Where? I have 80 bank and 6 chars with 70 and I do not have enough room to do as I please. I have to carefully move stuff to the right person and I have no room to horde anything.

Bhakura

I actually have to change my opinion on enchanting, the slow leveling makes perfect sense.
researching traits on gear crafts is extremely slow aswell, in a sense, its the same speed in which enchanting levels.

gweatherall_ESO

Enchanting is currently broken. Better to stockpile runes until they address it, otherwise you're just going to be wasting them on gaining microscopic skill increases

Iluvrien

Bhakura wrote: »

I actually have to change my opinion on enchanting, the slow leveling makes perfect sense.
researching traits on gear crafts is extremely slow aswell, in a sense, its the same speed in which enchanting levels.

You see, I actually find myself agreeing with this. I don't mind enchanting taking a long time to level as long as the end result is worth the effort.

What I do dislike in the enchanting system is that copying your neighbour's homework (swapping glyphs) should result in a greater increase in understanding of the craft than carefully considering they glyphs you yourself have produced... for the same glyph.

I have seen people suggest that this is in place as an incentive to collaboration and cooperation between crafters. Sadly, I am not convinced of the efficacy of this approach. For a couple of reasons:

1) That you can get the same bonus if you swap between alts on the same account removes any need for another person.
2) The people who will gain most from this are those who buy their components in large batches, stand around a crafting table with 1 or more strangers and continuously craft the same glyphs that they will then pass to the person next to them.

The Devs made the point that they want every item you craft to have a purpose and value in and of itself. This disparity seems to reward behaviour that stands in opposition to that.

Krym

Iluvrien wrote: »

2) The people who will gain most from this are those who buy their components in large batches, stand around a crafting table with 1 or more strangers and continuously craft the same glyphs that they will then pass to the person next to them.

and if it would be like usual you'd stand there alone crafting components in large batches then deconstruct them.

of course it depends on people's preference, but I guess the dev's goal was to increase interaction. for the same reason grouping up gives an xp bonus for example...

TurkeyBurgers

Enchanting is most definitely bugged out.

Jeremy

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

To be honest, enchanting is where it needs to be, everything else including character leveling is much to fast.

So far I am dubious about enchanting.

The reward vs effort ratio seems to be tilted toward the latter. It houses copious amounts of space and so far the only enchant I can really make use of are those for my weapons. Otherwise, the enchanting vendor makes an adequate alternative without costing me dozens of inventory spaces and skill points.

So far I would not recommend enchanting. But I've heard it gets better.

Agree with you about character leveling being much too fast. I am starting to wish I had some way to turn experience gains off for my character.

Sneakyfool

This is a end game Glyph, and also added to a crafted V10 Weapon.

Is enchanting worth it, yes it is. Is it easy? Nope. Just keep at it.

SexyVette07

I agree that enchanting is broke. Deconstructing lvl 45-50 glyphs from dungeon drops only gives like 950 xp. By comparison, all other crafts give around 3600 xp. That means enchanting is currently earning 25% of what other crafts are. Obviously its broken.

My enchanting is at 15 or 16 now and thats after deconstructing about 100 glyphs from Coldharbour dungeons and discovering all the essence runes. My clothing and woodworking are both at 40. My blacksmithing that I dont even use is at 29.

SexyVette07

TurkeyBurgers wrote: »

Sneakyfool wrote: »

This is a end game Glyph, and also added to a crafted V10 Weapon.

Is enchanting worth it, yes it is. Is it easy? Nope. Just keep at it.

Thats not necessarily true. I spent a lot of time making money in this game, so I had the capital to buy tons of Kuta and Rekuta. I have at least 20 Kuta and probably 50 Rekuta. Ive never duped anything in my life. I buy all of the cheap'ish ones on the guild auction houses because I anticipate the price to blow up when most people hit end game or Zenimax buffs enchanting XP and jump starts everyone to level the profession.

Some people are just more savvy when it comes to capitalizing on the market.

SexyVette07

TurkeyBurgers wrote: »

SexyVette07 wrote: »

TurkeyBurgers wrote: »

Sneakyfool wrote: »

This is a end game Glyph, and also added to a crafted V10 Weapon.

Is enchanting worth it, yes it is. Is it easy? Nope. Just keep at it.

Thats not necessarily true. I spent a lot of time making money in this game, so I had the capital to buy tons of Kuta and Rekuta. I have at least 20 Kuta and probably 50 Rekuta. Ive never duped anything in my life. I buy all of the cheap'ish ones on the guild auction houses because I anticipate the price to blow up when most people hit end game or Zenimax buffs enchanting XP and jump starts everyone to level the profession.

Some people are just more savvy when it comes to capitalizing on the market.

While its entirely possible that he did dupe them, the fact that he doesnt have hundreds of them is probably the biggest indicator that he most likely did not. Also, look at his gold, again, he doesnt have a million gold. He can obviously afford to buy Kuta's, especially when people are stupid enough to sell them for 250-300g.

The VR10 weapon means absolutely nothing other than he invested the required amount of skill points to be able to make them. The weapons that were duped were from the pvp vendor, and that one is obviously crafted.

Calm down, guy. No need to blow a head gasket.

Sunbite

Tiberius_ wrote: »

In the end, your stuck with a bunch of potency runes you can't use because your enchanting lvl is too low, and no way to level your enchanting because you can't craft any glyphs without potency runes.

Very true - I hadn't thought of it like this. I'm actually passing mats to another char from my main for enchanting, but it is stupidly slow. I tried a store-bought enchant (just to see) and that gave even less experience than usual, so buying them from the enchanter doesn't seem the way to go.

I also think this is broken - or is it? Someone in my main guild pointed out the crafting achievements. There are 4-5 associated with enchanting and those are the only ones that seem craft specific (none for clothier, alchemy etc.). So is it made stupidly difficult for this reason?

Sneakyfool

TurkeyBurgers wrote: »

You know, there is such a thing as working for what you want, just because someone has more than you, doesn't mean they cheated for it.. but you seem very angry for some reason, am I sensing a little jealousy?

If you played in the beta, you would of realised Enchanting was a really good craft to level, something I planned for, and clearly you didn't!

Fact is I've been buying these since the 5 day early access, and had hirelings from the 1st day, that should give you some idea how easy these are to obtain.

However you don't have to take my word for it, report me if you want and let Zenimax check, I have nothing to hide

While your waiting for a responce might I suggest checking out my guide to leveling enchanting as you seem to be of the belief you need to "dupe" to level it, and you couldn't be more mistaken lol.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/73398/profit-s-guide-to-leveling-enchanting-quickly-‏#latest

Have a nice day.

Calorath

Enchanting is not broken. It worked fine in the beta and seems to be fine now. I am lv28 with lv15 or 16 enchanting. Sure, I have runes in my bank I cannot use yet, but the only hard part is finding the round runes to make more! Takes patience.

Vecchine

V10, all crafts lvl 50 with no problem.
enchanting is 26, and you guys dont wanna say it's broken? come on.

BrassRazoo

Compare to other deconstructions Enchanting is either bugged or just designed to annoy the hell out of people.
I have not created 1 single item of Wood, Cloth or Black and I am level 40 - 45 in them, not a single craft.
I have created, found and deconstructed and traded and deconstructed many many Glyphs and am level 21 in Enchanting.
I am V6 and compared to others, and I started them all crafts at the same time, I am 50% lower in levels.

Shiaxi

lvl 18 here with woodworking and clothing op 22 and 26 respectively.

enchanting really is a chore to level, however certain levels appear to move way faster then others; I do notice that crafting known glyphs in purple quality does seem to provide an almost reasonable amount of xp.. however that requires getting the skill that allows using the rekuta rune.. (lvl.. 15?)

before that point the only way to get decent xp in it is translating runes or deconstructing runes from other players.

I literally deconstructed EVERY rune I found to get to lvl 18 and I crafted every glyph I could, cleaning my bank out of runestones twice in getting here.

edit: removed typo

Cheatingdeath23

Shiaxi wrote: »

lvl 18 here with woodworking and clothing op 22 and 26 respectively.

enchanting really is a chore to level, however certain levels appear to move way faster then others; I do notice that crafting known glyphs in purple quality does seem to provide an almost reasonable amount of xp.. however that requires getting the skill that allows using the rekuta rune.. (lvl.. 15?)

before that point the only way to get decent xp in it is translating runes or deconstructing runes from other players.

I literally deconstructed EVERY rune I found to get to lvl 18 and I crafted every glyph I could, cleaning my bank out of runestones twice in getting here.

edit: removed typo

I just sent 8 rekuta's to a friend who can enchant with them. She made 8 glyphs (and several smaller white ones) and I leveled up from 13 to 15 (almost 16).

Definitely expensive way to level, but once I get to 16 I won't need to level for a little bit.

Vraneon

Yeah, enchanting is a pain in the...knee. I have a friend who sends me since char-level 20 or something every single rune she gets, later even glyphs and I could barely keep pace with the skill till vet ranks. Now I'm Vet 2 and another friend helps me giving me runes and glyphs. And I managed to get to enchanting

I personally don't really care if its hard or not, the only thing that would make me mad is, that now while I'm leveling the skill and trying to push it as far as I can, it would get buffed, because many ppl complain about it being too slow or because they really missed a zero somewhere in the game code.

The skill is hard to level and it should stay like this. I also think they maybe wanted it to be like this, so ppl focus in different skills and help each other out, trade stuff. I get the runes and give my friend the materials for alchemy. While alchemy is far more faster to level, maybe the fastest skill ingame, its something where you continuously need materials because you drink your potions away. While enchanting a piece of armour, weapon holds really long and as soon as one reaches max level, very long!

I played runescape too and compared to that game every other game with "crafting/gathering" was laughable. I think its ok if eso has one hard to level skill, which takes long.

merwanoreb17_ESO

Enchanting is just boring to level, even with a friend to help you. Can't even imagine how boring it is without someone to trade enchants with.

Natjur

I found enchanting did not become a nightmare until around L25 and trying to get it to L40... I gave up.

The parts to make V1+ runes.... are rare as there is bugs with the break down of V1+ enchantments.

Anyone know a good L6 potency rune farming spot?

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

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