STOP 2x DROP any resources events

SilverBride · October 14

freespirit wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Things like Culanda Laquer, Stendarr Stamp, Ivory Brigade Clasp, Shimmering Sand and many others, people aren't doing the content where they drop.

This has been a real source of irritation with me. The only way to get these is to do dailies in their respective zones which is time consuming. These things should drop from any mob in the zone.

And why do we need these to craft a style anyway? They did it right with West Weald and the Colovian furnishings. We can just craft these without spending hours gathering some special mat first. This is how it should be for all furnishing styles.

Actually another way to get these style mats is to make gear using mimic stones in the respective styles and decon that gear for a chance of the style mat to drop. I have quite a stock of mimic stones from Daily Rewards, it's never going to be the perfect solution but it does work.

How does this work for mats needed for furnishings?

ApoAlaia · October 14

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Things like Culanda Laquer, Stendarr Stamp, Ivory Brigade Clasp, Shimmering Sand and many others, people aren't doing the content where they drop.

This has been a real source of irritation with me. The only way to get these is to do dailies in their respective zones which is time consuming. These things should drop from any mob in the zone.

And why do we need these to craft a style anyway? They did it right with West Weald and the Colovian furnishings. We can just craft these without spending hours gathering some special mat first. This is how it should be for all furnishing styles.

The fact that for the majority of furnishings that require scarce style materials to craft one can bypass the grind altogether by tossing money at the housing editor makes it hard not to be cynical about it.

tomofhyrule · October 14

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Things like Culanda Laquer, Stendarr Stamp, Ivory Brigade Clasp, Shimmering Sand and many others, people aren't doing the content where they drop.

This has been a real source of irritation with me. The only way to get these is to do dailies in their respective zones which is time consuming. These things should drop from any mob in the zone.

And why do we need these to craft a style anyway? They did it right with West Weald and the Colovian furnishings. We can just craft these without spending hours gathering some special mat first. This is how it should be for all furnishing styles.

Actually another way to get these style mats is to make gear using mimic stones in the respective styles and decon that gear for a chance of the style mat to drop. I have quite a stock of mimic stones from Daily Rewards, it's never going to be the perfect solution but it does work.

How does this work for mats needed for furnishings?

Use the Mimic Stones to craft a piece of gear in the respective style (e.g. Ivory Brigade for the Clasps), and then decon it for a chance to get the Clasp back from it. It does require you to know the motif for the respective style though.

Each style mat belongs to one of the crafting motif styles, so just make random armor or weapons that you can and you could get some of the actual material back.

SilverBride · October 14

tomofhyrule wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Things like Culanda Laquer, Stendarr Stamp, Ivory Brigade Clasp, Shimmering Sand and many others, people aren't doing the content where they drop.

This has been a real source of irritation with me. The only way to get these is to do dailies in their respective zones which is time consuming. These things should drop from any mob in the zone.

And why do we need these to craft a style anyway? They did it right with West Weald and the Colovian furnishings. We can just craft these without spending hours gathering some special mat first. This is how it should be for all furnishing styles.

Actually another way to get these style mats is to make gear using mimic stones in the respective styles and decon that gear for a chance of the style mat to drop. I have quite a stock of mimic stones from Daily Rewards, it's never going to be the perfect solution but it does work.

How does this work for mats needed for furnishings?

Use the Mimic Stones to craft a piece of gear in the respective style (e.g. Ivory Brigade for the Clasps), and then decon it for a chance to get the Clasp back from it. It does require you to know the motif for the respective style though.

Each style mat belongs to one of the crafting motif styles, so just make random armor or weapons that you can and you could get some of the actual material back.

I wasn't aware of this. Thanks!

freespirit · October 14

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Things like Culanda Laquer, Stendarr Stamp, Ivory Brigade Clasp, Shimmering Sand and many others, people aren't doing the content where they drop.

This has been a real source of irritation with me. The only way to get these is to do dailies in their respective zones which is time consuming. These things should drop from any mob in the zone.

And why do we need these to craft a style anyway? They did it right with West Weald and the Colovian furnishings. We can just craft these without spending hours gathering some special mat first. This is how it should be for all furnishing styles.

Actually another way to get these style mats is to make gear using mimic stones in the respective styles and decon that gear for a chance of the style mat to drop. I have quite a stock of mimic stones from Daily Rewards, it's never going to be the perfect solution but it does work.

How does this work for mats needed for furnishings?

Ok so in the case of Glass Eye of Mora, it is the style mat used to make gear in the Scribes of Mora style.

So I brought one Scribes of Mora Motif and read it, I then used that along with a Mimic Stone in the place of an Eye and crafted an item in the style Scribes of Mora. I then deconned that item and hoped for a style mat to drop..... in this case a Glass Eye of Mora.

I find my success rate doing this to be in excess of 80% to get the style mat and as I said I have a good stock of Mimic Stones from daily rewards..

Edit:- To add other Motifs that may be of interest........

Steadfast Society Motif for Stendarr Stamp
Sapiarch Motif for Culanda Laquer
Ivory Brigade Motif for Ivory Brigade Clasp
Annequina Motif for Shimmering Sand

SilverBride · October 14

freespirit wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

SilverBride wrote: »

freespirit wrote: »

Things like Culanda Laquer, Stendarr Stamp, Ivory Brigade Clasp, Shimmering Sand and many others, people aren't doing the content where they drop.

This has been a real source of irritation with me. The only way to get these is to do dailies in their respective zones which is time consuming. These things should drop from any mob in the zone.

And why do we need these to craft a style anyway? They did it right with West Weald and the Colovian furnishings. We can just craft these without spending hours gathering some special mat first. This is how it should be for all furnishing styles.

Actually another way to get these style mats is to make gear using mimic stones in the respective styles and decon that gear for a chance of the style mat to drop. I have quite a stock of mimic stones from Daily Rewards, it's never going to be the perfect solution but it does work.

How does this work for mats needed for furnishings?

Ok so in the case of Glass Eye of Mora, it is the style mat used to make gear in the Scribes of Mora style.

So I brought one Scribes of Mora Motif and read it, I then used that along with a Mimic Stone in the place of an Eye and crafted an item in the style Scribes of Mora. I then deconned that item and hoped for a style mat to drop..... in this case a Glass Eye of Mora.

I find my success rate doing this to be in excess of 80% to get the style mat and as I said I have a good stock of Mimic Stones from daily rewards..

Edit:- To add other Motifs that may be of interest........

Steadfast Society Motif for Stendarr Stamp
Sapiarch Motif for Culanda Laquer
Ivory Brigade Motif for Ivory Brigade Clasp
Annequina Motif for Shimmering Sand

Thanks!

katanagirl1 · October 14

ApoAlaia wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

This event is good for me, I farm my own mats and never buy them.

Honestly, why would you buy regular crating mats? If you pick up enough of them and/or refine them, you are 100% guaranteed to get what you want. (Not so much with furnishing mats, I still am not getting enough of those.) It’s not like farming housing plans where you can spend hours opening cabinets and urns and get nothing of value.

Next patch has you covered:

Still not adding them to survey nodes though, make of that what you will.

Personally, given that the devs have not even acknowledged that surveys are in sore need of a QoL pass and they have in fact made their location even more inconvenient than the preceding ones with every chapter release (West Weald taking the biscuit on that regard even though the zone has 14 wayshrines, which is an achievement in on itself) I make it that they take my time and the time of those like myself for granted.

However given that the surveys are increasingly time consuming to collect and the proceeds from those surveys are not worth selling anymore, for someone that has been doing this for long enough, as the saying goes, the only winning move is not to play.

Yes, I am looking forward to the increased drops. I hope they are significant and not just a tiny bit more.

ElderSmitter · October 14

katanagirl1 wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

This event is good for me, I farm my own mats and never buy them.

Honestly, why would you buy regular crating mats? If you pick up enough of them and/or refine them, you are 100% guaranteed to get what you want. (Not so much with furnishing mats, I still am not getting enough of those.) It’s not like farming housing plans where you can spend hours opening cabinets and urns and get nothing of value.

Next patch has you covered:

Still not adding them to survey nodes though, make of that what you will.

Personally, given that the devs have not even acknowledged that surveys are in sore need of a QoL pass and they have in fact made their location even more inconvenient than the preceding ones with every chapter release (West Weald taking the biscuit on that regard even though the zone has 14 wayshrines, which is an achievement in on itself) I make it that they take my time and the time of those like myself for granted.

However given that the surveys are increasingly time consuming to collect and the proceeds from those surveys are not worth selling anymore, for someone that has been doing this for long enough, as the saying goes, the only winning move is not to play.

Yes, I am looking forward to the increased drops. I hope they are significant and not just a tiny bit more.

They need to increase the drop rates because the lack of gold they bring in anymore you can see the inventory dwindling on TTC to the point that in another month or 2 it would start effecting people even crafting things to play the game consistently. Anything under 30 pages would cause another hyper spike imo.. They are the main ingredients in so many furnishings. For those hating on folks wanting to trade. Do not forget it is just another aspect of the game. Nothing more nothing less. You can dislike flippers all you want but ZOS creating the game to be played that way so imo people should have the freedom to play the way they want. ZOS finds way to Nerf Sets and destroy them just as they buff sets etc etc... That is what makes this game so interesting is all the moving parts. When some get fixed other things break lol..

Amottica · October 14

It is short-term and no different from events where motifs and stuff drop. It is fabulous, as everyone gets what they want. People get more free stuff, and those who sell get temporary vacations.

Hapexamendios · October 14

Of all the things to complain about, this is not one of them.

katanagirl1 · October 15

ElderSmitter wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

ApoAlaia wrote: »

katanagirl1 wrote: »

This event is good for me, I farm my own mats and never buy them.

Honestly, why would you buy regular crating mats? If you pick up enough of them and/or refine them, you are 100% guaranteed to get what you want. (Not so much with furnishing mats, I still am not getting enough of those.) It’s not like farming housing plans where you can spend hours opening cabinets and urns and get nothing of value.

Next patch has you covered:

Still not adding them to survey nodes though, make of that what you will.

Personally, given that the devs have not even acknowledged that surveys are in sore need of a QoL pass and they have in fact made their location even more inconvenient than the preceding ones with every chapter release (West Weald taking the biscuit on that regard even though the zone has 14 wayshrines, which is an achievement in on itself) I make it that they take my time and the time of those like myself for granted.

However given that the surveys are increasingly time consuming to collect and the proceeds from those surveys are not worth selling anymore, for someone that has been doing this for long enough, as the saying goes, the only winning move is not to play.

Yes, I am looking forward to the increased drops. I hope they are significant and not just a tiny bit more.

They need to increase the drop rates because the lack of gold they bring in anymore you can see the inventory dwindling on TTC to the point that in another month or 2 it would start effecting people even crafting things to play the game consistently. Anything under 30 pages would cause another hyper spike imo.. They are the main ingredients in so many furnishings. For those hating on folks wanting to trade. Do not forget it is just another aspect of the game. Nothing more nothing less. You can dislike flippers all you want but ZOS creating the game to be played that way so imo people should have the freedom to play the way they want. ZOS finds way to Nerf Sets and destroy them just as they buff sets etc etc... That is what makes this game so interesting is all the moving parts. When some get fixed other things break lol..

I have no problems with trading, I was participating more in guild traders back when I had things to sell, but the shortened listing times took care of that. I am not fond of flippers but they do not bother me and my playstyle.

I gather my own mats because I have time for it and it is an activity I find relaxing.

pklemming · October 15

I sell resources. Double resources has no significant impact on the game, that I can see. There are so many out there, that a few days of double resources should make zero difference.

Considering a lot of the problems in the game now, this is a complete non-issue.

SolarRune · October 15

A healthy economy is one slowing growing, rampant inflation like we had before, and deflation like we have currently are both bad for the game if they continue for to long.

xXCJsniperXx7 · October 15

There's no economy if your capital is infinite sourced...

Also, calm down it's a game with wizards and flying lizards.

wolfie1.0. · October 15

carthalis wrote: »

a great time to do those survery maps and been going out doing an area at time clearing some of the stash from my bank

Surveys don't receive the bonus boost. So it's actually the worst time to do them. Your better off doing straight farming and leaving the Surveys for no event periods.

sunsrest · October 15

making everything cheaper is the easiest thing the devs can do to increase player retention because it makes the items people want more accessible, we want to use the item in the game not be stuck in a money management grind for it, also it's not like everything costs 1000 out there, there are still some expensive things like some purple companion gear combinations

Carcamongus · October 15

I'm glad prices are dropping, even if that means the value of my hoarded stuff is decreasing. Let more players have access to the stuff they need to craft and enjoy the game. Double drop events are a great way to stock up on valuable goods too: gathering a stack of heartwood during normal times takes bloody forever, but during these events it takes just half of forever!

Juju_beans · October 15

I'm enjoying it. I'm not a trader and not a video game millionaire.
So the decreased prices are allowing me to go buy motifs and gear that is normally out of my reach.

There's got to be give and take in a game for everyone to be happy.

SkaiFaith · October 15

Had I bad RNG or refining RNG has been reduced for this event?
Usually I get 1 golden item from 150-200 refined material. I refined 1.500+ platinum dust and only got 1 golden item. I then stopped refining for the time of the event...

Amottica · October 15

SkaiFaith wrote: »

Had I bad RNG or refining RNG has been reduced for this event?
Usually I get 1 golden item from 150-200 refined material. I refined 1.500+ platinum dust and only got 1 golden item. I then stopped refining for the time of the event...

@tmbrinks does writs on a great many characters every day and keeps meticulous notes on the results from refining. When I have seen people chime in that they think the odds have changed he notes his results and how nothing has changed.

RNG happens. Maybe need to make shirts bumper stickers with that slogan. lol

ElderSmitter · October 16

pklemming wrote: »

I sell resources. Double resources has no significant impact on the game, that I can see. There are so many out there, that a few days of double resources should make zero difference.

Considering a lot of the problems in the game now, this is a complete non-issue.

Double Resources does not equate to Double the volume for sale. Players automatically assume that. For instance, x player spends 2 hours farming to get 50 columbine to make their nightly potions. Well now X player spends 60 minutes farming their potions and now had 60 extra minutes of gaming time to do something else. Double does not mean everyone goes ahead and spend their normal time farming.

KromedeTheCorrupt · October 16

DenverRalphy wrote: »

Everybody keeps talking about a Failing Economy. What economy? What fail?

Are players unable to purchase anything from the vendors? Their wares are dirt cheap.

Do players have Mortgages or Utility bills to pay in game? Last I recall, no player has ever been evicted from their home, or froze to death because their heating bill lapsed.

Are there player characters starving in the streets across Tamriel?

There is no economy in ESO. There is only how rapidly you can amass fortunes that mean nothing.

That last sentence is just perfect couldn't have said it better myself. The only problem is the main people complaining or doing RMT for gold. There are people who actually make money selling in game currency.

EF321 · October 16

ElderSmitter wrote: »

pklemming wrote: »

I sell resources. Double resources has no significant impact on the game, that I can see. There are so many out there, that a few days of double resources should make zero difference.

Considering a lot of the problems in the game now, this is a complete non-issue.

Double Resources does not equate to Double the volume for sale. Players automatically assume that. For instance, x player spends 2 hours farming to get 50 columbine to make their nightly potions. Well now X player spends 60 minutes farming their potions and now had 60 extra minutes of gaming time to do something else. Double does not mean everyone goes ahead and spend their normal time farming.

This, and also material mainly comes from writs, surveys and hirelings, all are not affected by event. People who actually gather in the wild are very few and what they gather is just a drop in the ocean. As we know many players religiously refuse to spend any time gathering their own material, and some would rather spend three hours writing essay on forums about how much they don't like sourcing their own stuff, than spend that time gathering even with double drops on.

We have these resource events all the time and they never had an effect anyone could measure.

barney2525 · October 16

2x Mats are Great. IMHO one of the cheesiest methods to "farm gold" is to just run Artaeum for hours and turn around and sell in bulk. If it's not worth doing that, maybe they will actually need to play some of the game.

LalMirchi · October 16

TDVM wrote: »

This is a direct killing of the economy of the game, which is already in a very bad state, prices for everything continue to fall rapidly and prices do not have time to return to the usual state as there is another event for resources. Maybe it's time for to come up with interesting events and not events that will finally kill the economy of the game?

It is very disappointing that the ZOS are not trying to do anything about the falling economy.

No this is not killing the games economy, only some players economy. Lower prices in general are a boon to players, especially the newer ones.

DenverRalphy · October 16

EF321 wrote: »

ElderSmitter wrote: »

pklemming wrote: »

I sell resources. Double resources has no significant impact on the game, that I can see. There are so many out there, that a few days of double resources should make zero difference.

Considering a lot of the problems in the game now, this is a complete non-issue.

Double Resources does not equate to Double the volume for sale. Players automatically assume that. For instance, x player spends 2 hours farming to get 50 columbine to make their nightly potions. Well now X player spends 60 minutes farming their potions and now had 60 extra minutes of gaming time to do something else. Double does not mean everyone goes ahead and spend their normal time farming.

This, and also material mainly comes from writs, surveys and hirelings, all are not affected by event. People who actually gather in the wild are very few and what they gather is just a drop in the ocean. As we know many players religiously refuse to spend any time gathering their own material, and some would rather spend three hours writing essay on forums about how much they don't like sourcing their own stuff, than spend that time gathering even with double drops on.

We have these resource events all the time and they never had an effect anyone could measure.

As someone who gathers regularly, I can confidently say that the people who gather during double drop events are not "few" by any means. If anything, double drop events bring out the absolute worst in players as it becomes a real cutthroat world all across Tamriel as players often get nasty with each other trying to beat each other to resource nodes. The number of players actively gathering is significantly higher.

Furthermore, the oh so precious Furnishing Mats don't come from writs, surveys, and hirelings.

That being said, I'm not opposed to double drop events. I just recognize it for what it is.

Eldartar · October 16

Prices are falling . . . . Awesome, keep doing what your doing ZOS.

sshogrin · October 16

Some of us that harvest our own resources actually like these events, it allows us to get our resources with less effort.
It's not "killing the economy". Personally I think the prices of things are insane anymore. I've played the game since beta and have seen prices in game inflate more than the real world inflation.

Razmirra · October 16

I'm glad the grain removal for jewelry made the prices plummet a while ago. Who the heck wants to spend half a mil for a single gold plate anyway?

That and I can adequately upgrade everyone's jewelry to purple at least, and eventually gold.

AnduinTryggva · October 16

TDVM wrote: »

This is a direct killing of the economy of the game, which is already in a very bad state, prices for everything continue to fall rapidly and prices do not have time to return to the usual state as there is another event for resources. Maybe it's time for to come up with interesting events and not events that will finally kill the economy of the game?

It is very disappointing that the ZOS are not trying to do anything about the falling economy.

The price drop are a blessing for all who need crafting ressources to actually PLAY the game. As such I am absolutely in favor of the double drop during the event and I wished it would be triple drop.

And no, I am N.O.T. paying for overpriced crafting ressources. I simply will make an intermezzo to farm them when I need them.