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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Do you even care about the Emperor Title?

TheGrandAlliance
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This means whether you care about being Emperor, care about who is Emperor, or care about the strategy to obtain an Emperor.
Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 3 April 2014 18:29
Indeed it is so...

Do you even care about the Emperor Title? 658 votes

Yes
41%
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No
58%
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    I wonder because from what I have observed thus far the interest is quite limited. Nothing is likely to change if the players don't care.

    If you have voted no then please explain what about the "Emperor" system you do not like. I have a thread that discussed a potential new way to determine the Emperor using a guild-based system.

    Also please answer the poll whether you PvP or not... PvEers in theory should respect the Emperor concept even if they don't seek it out.


    Edit: It appears there is agreement forming for the "no". Indeed... the player base doesn't like the current PvP system and something must be done or players will not engage.
    Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 4 May 2014 15:47
    Indeed it is so...
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    No
    Nah , still , one of my guildmates became the emperor from what i understood , atleast his/her name was at the top score board.
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    Interesting results... keep it up.
    Indeed it is so...
  • Simaya
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    No
    I voted no because there are people that exploit the mechanics in PvP to be at the top. I mentioned before that its pretty broken when the top guy has more than double the next highest guy.. like 400k to 190k. So there is no point to trying. Supposedly it's fixed but at the same time no point to trying since I work 8-5 at Intel and I can't no life PvP to be emporer.. there is more to the game :)
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    Simaya wrote: »
    and I can't no life PvP to be emporer.. there is more to the game :)

    Yea I know how you feel. I am doing the same here, having to be a "no-lifer", in order to do anything. PvP shouldn't be about wasting away 12+ hours a day to do anything.
    Indeed it is so...
  • chris.carr08b16_ESO
    No
    Maybe the emperor title should not have been attainable until the game was in full swing? I mean official release isn't even here and people have 300k AP from a quest no longer available. Factions fighting in mass numbers versus little to no opposition and controlling the full map etc...
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    Factions fighting in mass numbers versus little to no opposition and controlling the full map etc...

    Yes I forgot about that... If one side dominates it makes it impossible to get AP due to the combat nature of it.

    Indeed it is so...
  • Zershar_Vemod
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    Yes
    Voted yes because of the skill line unlock, and I almost had it in beta :P
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  • Seneschel
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    Yes
    Maybe the emperor title should not have been attainable until the game was in full swing? I mean official release isn't even here and people have 300k AP from a quest no longer available. Factions fighting in mass numbers versus little to no opposition and controlling the full map etc...

    The players on my campaign had over 500K AP at the end of last night. That quest really screwed peoples chances of catching up.
  • Lobselvith
    Lobselvith
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    Yes
    This means whether you care about being Emperor, care about who is Emperor, or care about the strategy to obtain an Emperor.

    I care!!!
  • Raubrey
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    Yes
    I care about the day my bag vendor is having, so yeah.

    But, in all seriousness, I do care more about the alliance as a whole -- so it's less about the specific person then which alliance that person is in...at least now. Veteran days will be different, I suspect.
    Edited by Raubrey on 3 April 2014 21:24

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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    Raubrey wrote: »
    In all seriousness, I do care more about the alliance as a whole -- so it's less about the specific person then which alliance that person is in.

    Indeed... a most Honorable trait.

    Indeed it is so...
  • TheFio
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    No
    There should not be ANY special rewards. If you need a carrot on a stick you should reevaluate your reasons for pvp because it is obviously not for simple enjoyment.
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  • Paralyse
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    No
    I don't care about PvP, and don't plan to engage in it, so whether or not the title exists, is not important to me.
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  • SpieleNerd
    No
    or emperor got voted because he got the most silly name -.-
    Edited by SpieleNerd on 4 April 2014 08:51
  • Imperator_Clydus
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    Yes
    This thread will be skewed based on the fact that many know they will never have the opportunity to become the emperor. With that precedent set, many will say they don't care for the system by default.

    I, on the other hand, see validity in the system because of what the emperor can do. The system itself has gone through a variety of nerfs in beta, lessening the power of the emperor. Still, in the right hands, the emperor will make a significant impact in whichever battle he/she participates in.

    Eventually, when ZOS fully implements the Imperial City, the emperor will likely play an even more significant role in the Alliance War. We'll have to see how things progress, but I'm under the impression players will want to care who their emperor is just as much as how their alliance is faring in AvA.
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  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    This thread will be skewed based on the fact that many know they will never have the opportunity to become the emperor. With that precedent set, many will say they don't care for the system by default.

    Good call. But this is because the current point system for AP makes it IMPOSSIBLE to be Emperor unless you are a no-lifer player.

    Thus the reason I suggeted on my other thread to change this to a guild-based system. Else the Emperor title will only mean anything to <1% of player population.

    I am not saying everyone should get Title. I am saying that it shouldn't be SUICIDE MODE /epicfail "IRL" in order to do it.
    Indeed it is so...
  • nicholaspingasb16_ESO
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    No
    There can be like 50 emperors at once (thanks to the multiple campaigns), so it is a pointless title.
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  • jamesmw_ESO
    No
    No. Individual accomplishments in a RvR game are not important to me. Being the highest on the scoreboard is a challenging and impressive feat but I don't have a desire to accomplish it.
  • Audigy
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    No
    As a former Rank 14 at wow and Player in one of the top guilds there I must say that I never cared what others did while we had our "fame".

    I know people who always congratulated us or wanted to be our "friend", but I never understood that hype.

    Its a list with a name, be it at wow or here at TESO. To me that person is not important, nor would I feel important if I would have that title.

    Achievements in games are not really hard, its a lot about time and the support that you have. A person who plays an hour a day will never be an Emperor, therefore this whole title makes no real sense. Its a title given for people who are pro gamers, who play games for a living, therefor only important for them.
  • Zhakim
    Zhakim
    No
    No.
    I love PvP but don't believe that this kind of title suggests any kind of skill, it's just a gimmick to give competitive players with a lot of time on their hands something to fight over. All power to them, I hope they have some fun with it, but I prefer looking at the bigger picture, community building and factional campaigns.
  • XDem
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    Yes
    I do care about it, I find it a bit of a pity that only maybe 1% of the playerbase will ever experience it.
  • Raethek
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    No
    It's not that I don't like it, it's just not for me, I already serve a master in real life working. Just not a go getter kinda mentality, more like an explorer and being able to do other things than killing style sports.
  • Randomixx
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    Yes
    I don't care about who specifically has it, but which Alliance has the Emporership overall is an important thing to any one campaign - having the Empress/or fighting for you can swing the favour in a surprisingly dramatic fashion.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Yes
    Zhakim wrote: »
    No.
    I love PvP but don't believe that this kind of title suggests any kind of skill, it's just a gimmick to give competitive players with a lot of time on their hands something to fight over. All power to them, I hope they have some fun with it, but I prefer looking at the bigger picture, community building and factional campaigns.

    Finally someone understands! Indeed this is exactly what is is now: An "E-Sport".
    Indeed it is so...
  • Darka
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    I had hoped for a cape
    It would be a cool title, but would be nice if there was a little more to it
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  • itsmalarky
    Yes
    I voted yes, it's just a cool concept. There will always be a hardcore group of people that are vying for it. They will eventually become well known, and the community will either lift them up for turn them into monsters. It should be interesting.
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  • joshisanonymous
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    No
    Your description is pretty confusing. A vote for "no" is "no" to all of those things? Some of those things? Only those things? What?

    Anyway, I voted "no" as in I'm not concerned if I become Emperor. I try not to take MMOs seriously enough these days that I'd stand a chance to become Emperor. However, this doesn't mean that I think that it's a bad system. On the contrary, I like the Emperor mechanic a lot. I'm really not even sure what you're talking about with this "nothing is likely to change if the players don't care" business. I don't want anything to change, especially right now. We're a week into launch. Most people are nowhere near level cap. Those who've tried PvP a bit are very likely in the learning stages. Nothing is really orgranized except maybe a bit on Auriel's Bow. Your description implies that there's something broken here but there is literally no way for anyone to meaningfully say that given these conditions.

    I'm not even sure in what way you think it's broke. I'm assuming it has something to do with how few people will be able to get the title. If that's the case, what you consider broke is to me working perfectly. I'd really prefer only a handful of people who play quite a bit to be able to become Emperor. I want the title to have meaning and I want the people who get it to actually be online while they're Emperor.

    If your complaint is that the methods for getting points are poor, I disagree. You get as many points for killing a player solo as you do for participating in a keep take. They've also recently made it easier to get points from healing. I've even heard of people getting high in the rankings from repairing walls and such. There are numerous ways to get ahead that involve fighting players as well as helping out your alliance in general. I've heard complaints about the quests, too, but that was changed. I'd also restate what I said above about how meaningless it is to talk about whether AvA is broken at the moment.
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  • reignfyre
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    No
    Nope. Have no idea what its about. And I suspect that this (as with any leaderboard) will be a title claimed only by stat padders and cheaters.
  • joshisanonymous
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    No
    I am not saying everyone should get Title. I am saying that it shouldn't be SUICIDE MODE /epicfail "IRL" in order to do it.

    Oh, I should've read the whole thread I guess. Yes I definitely disagree with you here. I really do want it to be that hard to become Emperor, even if it means that I will probably never become Emperor.

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