Stafford197 wrote: »I’ll just add that the “One Tamriel” update, which launched 8 years ago, caused this whole situation in the first place. But it was still a fantastic patch despite ESO being considered too easy at the time.
SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
SilverBride wrote: »Stafford197 wrote: »I’ll just add that the “One Tamriel” update, which launched 8 years ago, caused this whole situation in the first place. But it was still a fantastic patch despite ESO being considered too easy at the time.
The game was not too easy before One Tamriel. As Rich said: "ESO being too hard was what once pushed so many away." That is the reason I and many of my friends left.
spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Streamers usually go along with trends for clicks. I don't think it's the most compelling evidence by itself.
SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Why would anyone make a video showing that they have no issue with anything?
Stafford197 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »Stafford197 wrote: »I’ll just add that the “One Tamriel” update, which launched 8 years ago, caused this whole situation in the first place. But it was still a fantastic patch despite ESO being considered too easy at the time.
The game was not too easy before One Tamriel. As Rich said: "ESO being too hard was what once pushed so many away." That is the reason I and many of my friends left.
No you misunderstood, I didn’t say that. I said ESO was considered too easy after One Tamriel (not before).
That is why complaints about ESO being too easy began once One Tamriel launched. And the point of my post was to say that the intended difficulty in One Tamriel was far higher compared to how it is in 2024, due to 8 years of powercreep.
spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Streamers usually go along with trends for clicks. I don't think it's the most compelling evidence by itself.
If you watch the video I posted, you'll see that it's an actual plea to the devs citing personal anecdotes involving his own friends. It may have been released at an advantageous time, I'm not sure, but I think it could be argued that this position is kind of evergreen. Frankly, the opinion is so common I don't see it being all that worthwhile to create a video about if the object is to drive engagement.
SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Streamers usually go along with trends for clicks. I don't think it's the most compelling evidence by itself.
If you watch the video I posted, you'll see that it's an actual plea to the devs citing personal anecdotes involving his own friends. It may have been released at an advantageous time, I'm not sure, but I think it could be argued that this position is kind of evergreen. Frankly, the opinion is so common I don't see it being all that worthwhile to create a video about if the object is to drive engagement.
I see common opinions being parroted by streamers all the time. Sometimes, And I'm not saying it's happening here, they'll make a video with a different opinion. And then make a new one agreeing with their crowd when that one fails.
SilverBride wrote: »Stafford197 wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »Stafford197 wrote: »I’ll just add that the “One Tamriel” update, which launched 8 years ago, caused this whole situation in the first place. But it was still a fantastic patch despite ESO being considered too easy at the time.
The game was not too easy before One Tamriel. As Rich said: "ESO being too hard was what once pushed so many away." That is the reason I and many of my friends left.
No you misunderstood, I didn’t say that. I said ESO was considered too easy after One Tamriel (not before).
That is why complaints about ESO being too easy began once One Tamriel launched. And the point of my post was to say that the intended difficulty in One Tamriel was far higher compared to how it is in 2024, due to 8 years of powercreep.
My apology.
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Streamers usually go along with trends for clicks. I don't think it's the most compelling evidence by itself.
If you watch the video I posted, you'll see that it's an actual plea to the devs citing personal anecdotes involving his own friends. It may have been released at an advantageous time, I'm not sure, but I think it could be argued that this position is kind of evergreen. Frankly, the opinion is so common I don't see it being all that worthwhile to create a video about if the object is to drive engagement.
I see common opinions being parroted by streamers all the time. Sometimes, And I'm not saying it's happening here, they'll make a video with a different opinion. And then make a new one agreeing with their crowd when that one fails.
Think whatever you like, but the content of the video speaks for itself. Whether you think it's relevant to the conversation or not, if it's a trend to create content like this, it seems logical to me that there is actually a problem which needs to be addressed.
SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
Perhaps, but they aren't just whiney rants. They are well-spoken, and viewed by tens of thousands of people (more like hundreds of thousands).
And most of the comments in those videos are people agreeing with him and collecting likes.
Opinion, yes. But widely shared opinions by many, many people who are potential ESO+ subs and crown crate buyers, who will help prop up a game we all love.
You can't just brush off our opinion as "just opinion" if that opinion is shared by so many. And ZOS certainly can't afford to ignore it when the subscriptions of so many potential paying customers are at stake.
SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
Perhaps, but they aren't just whiney rants. They are well-spoken, and viewed by tens of thousands of people (more like hundreds of thousands).
And most of the comments in those videos are people agreeing with him and collecting likes.
Opinion, yes. But widely shared opinions by many, many people who are potential ESO+ subs and crown crate buyers, who will help prop up a game we all love.
You can't just brush off our opinion as "just opinion" if that opinion is shared by so many. And ZOS certainly can't afford to ignore it when the subscriptions of so many potential paying customers are at stake.
This is why I say these streams are biased. Because they are being viewed by like minded players, so of course they are going to agree with them.
spartaxoxo wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Streamers usually go along with trends for clicks. I don't think it's the most compelling evidence by itself.
Thankfully, it doesn't exist in a vacuum. We also see these comments in steam reviews, developer commentary about feedback they receive often, and on the forums, on Reddit, and on their social media.
So, clearly, this is not a small opinion. The devs have said the majority of their playerbase likes overland the way it is. And that's likely true. People are much less likely to leave comments if it's they like it just fine. But it's very clear that the number of people who find it too easy are not small. It's a large trend.
Large enough to be a part of multiple developer interviews. Large enough to be easy engagement for content creators. Large enough to be pretty much anywhere you see the game discussed.
SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
The point is that they exist and that the opinion is very common. I challenge you to find anyone creating content which takes the opposing position.
Why would anyone make a video showing that they have no issue with anything?
SilverBride wrote: »SilverBride wrote: »All those streamer videos show is the streamer's personal opinions. They are no more valid than anyone else's. Plus they are biased.
Perhaps, but they aren't just whiney rants. They are well-spoken, and viewed by tens of thousands of people (more like hundreds of thousands).
And most of the comments in those videos are people agreeing with him and collecting likes.
Opinion, yes. But widely shared opinions by many, many people who are potential ESO+ subs and crown crate buyers, who will help prop up a game we all love.
You can't just brush off our opinion as "just opinion" if that opinion is shared by so many. And ZOS certainly can't afford to ignore it when the subscriptions of so many potential paying customers are at stake.
This is why I say these streams are biased. Because they are being viewed by like minded players, so of course they are going to agree with them.
Theist_VII wrote: »Here is the problem with a difficulty slider…
All a difficulty slider would do is increase the damage and health of enemies you’re fighting. What we need is a mechanical overhaul to pair with the increased damage and health. If an enemy has one or two attacks that are extremely predictable, simply increasing the time to kill them wont be enough.
For an enemy to present a challenge, they need to challenge the way you think.
While it would be fine to just increase the damage of wild animals, a quest boss should feel memorable.
SilverBride wrote: »
SilverBride wrote: »
SilverBride wrote: »It's extremely frustrating to hear over and over that the game I love is flawed and needs to be changed into something that will drive me out, just like the difficulty before One Tamriel did. I know the word optional is supposed to prevent that but it's not working.
SilverBride wrote: »It's extremely frustrating to hear over and over that the game I love is flawed and needs to be changed into something that will drive me out, just like the difficulty before One Tamriel did. I know the word optional is supposed to prevent that but it's not working.