Feb 15 Cyrodiil Test Details

ZOS_BrianWheeler

Heyo gang!

Last year, we ran a series of tests on the Live PC megaservers in an effort to identify potential solutions for the ongoing performance issues in Cyrodiil (you can read the full details surrounding the reasons behind these tests in this forum post). Our previous rounds of testing in Cyrodiil last year concluded with some interesting data that pointed us towards various avenues to explore for both future tests and long term solutions. However, those tests did not provide a definitive “This will fix all the things” solutions. We did find that slowing down calculations on the server per combat action does indeed help with performance, but again, not to an appreciable amount where it could be a permanent solution; more tests are necessary to follow various branches of thought regarding server performance and combat calculations. As such, we will be performing at least 1 more test where we are affecting how much information is processed per combat action by limiting item set procs in Cyrodiil.

On February 15th, we will be disabling Item Set bonuses outside of pure stat gains. This means any item set which has a proc, or condition which is driven by an ability, will have that ability disabled. This includes Item Sets like Seducer, as that set reduces Magicka cost abilities by 10%. That reduction of cost is done via an ability, which has to check anytime you cast an ability if it’s cost should be reduced. Other sets, such as Hunding’s Rage, is completely unaffected by this change as it simply grants stats without requirements.

The full list of Sets which are not affected by this test are as follows:

• Amber Plasm
• Armor of the Trainee
• Beekeeper’s Gear
• Crafty Alfiq
• Draugr Hulk
• Endurance
• Fortified Brass
• Grace of the Ancients
• Hunding’s Rage
• Impregnable Armor
• Law of Julianos
• Leviathan
• Mother’s Sorrow
• Plague Doctor
• Shacklebreaker
• Spinner’s Garments
• Spriggan’s Thorns
• Willpower Agility

At this time, we are planning for this test to run for at least 3 weeks, and will let everyone know when we have next steps locked in.

When this test begins on February 15, we will also be reverting a prior test where abilities cast on allies were restricted to group targets only. This adjustment gave no appreciable gains towards performance improvements, so this restriction will be removed until further notice and abilities which target/can be triggered by players outside of your group will once again function as they do outside of Cyrodiil.

We look forward to your feedback and seeing the effects of this test!

Mojmir

*continues to farm the listed sets*

techyeshic

So if healing outside of groups is possible; is it kind of pointless to keep groups capped at 12?

And does this mean other sets will not work at all? Or just their conditions? Like if I ran New Moon, its just the ability cost thats the condition?

CaffeinatedMayhem

Remember when Elder Procs Online was coined, when Monster Helms were introduced?

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*looks at very short list of sets w/ or w/o Shacklebreaker*
....

Yeah.

Artorias24

Why is shackle not on the list? Its pure stats.

thadjarvis

NMA acolyte is not on the list. Does that mean the entire set won't work or just the conditional element: increases the cost of active abilities

Ie will all the stats work but not the increased cost?

Talfyg’s Treachery is similar as are several other sets

prof_doom

Feels overly restrictive.
I can understand damage proc sets like Illambris, Maw of the Infernal, and things like that.
But if something like Armor of the Seducer counts as a proc set, that borders on the ridiculous.
You might as well just say the list of sets you put out are the only viable pvp sets for the foreseeable future.

Though I suppose if the test really does show a performance improvement, you could change things like Seducer to just be a straight number set that decreases all ability costs by 10% so that it doesn't need to do the check on cast.

The Uninvited

What about Shacklebreaker???

Aliyavana

Any chance that double AP will be active during this time to ensure that more people will participate in this test?

techyeshic

All sorts of questions. Your "Feb 15 Cyrodiil Test Details" seems to lack details. Are the sets you mentioned just earmarked to work? Is that how you did it? No biggie if so, just would tell us better how this is going to work.

Aliyavana

Shacklebreaker should be active

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Will jewellery traits be affected? For example Bloodthirsty
Also is twice born star set considered a proc?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Can you confirm this test won't be happening during any other events?
And will you put this up on PTS for a day for us to confirm things work as expected?

ZOS_GinaBruno

Artorias24 wrote: »

Why is shackle not on the list? Its pure stats.

Apologies, this was inadvertently missed. Just edited the original post to include Shacklebreaker as a set that is not affected by this test.

Feric51

The Uninvited wrote: »

What about Shacklebreaker???

Armor of the Trainee should probably be included as well.

Nyaarla

Do the crosshealing from 15th applies also to other platforms ?

ZOS_GinaBruno

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_BrianWheeler

Will jewellery traits be affected? For example Bloodthirsty

Jewelry traits will not be affected during this test.

Aliyavana wrote: »

Any chance that double AP will be active during this time to ensure that more people will participate in this test?

Checking on this and will let you all know.

Rhygam

I dont think, only giving double Ap is gonna be enough of a recompensation. First destroying Cyrodiil with Procalypse 2.0 and instead of stopping it adding more and more Proc Sets. The nice thing is, now everyone can see, how balanced this game really is...not. Magsorcs, Stamcros and Stamdens gonna dominate everything. And THREE weeks. At least it looks like Cyrodiil is gonna feel like 5 years ago, only with more broken classes. Also 1st, its not us, its you ZOS who adds these sets. I pay eso+ and then have to suffer through so many tests all the time... Also how long are procsests in the game? And NOW its thought to be an Issue???

Eclipse0990

@ZOS_GinaBruno What about flat damage stats like war maiden?

Squeaky_Clean

@ZOS: I think also skills and abilities are bad for performance in general .. just allow white non-set armor, and light and heavy attack only. .. Btw potions are also bad, please remove them as well from PVP.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Eclipse0990 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno What about flat damage stats like war maiden?

I would assume this falls under the seducer bracket of 'Checking if the ability does x dmg'.

Greasytengu

Something I was wondering, will set bonuses that do things like 4% healing taken/received still work?

Also Oblivions edge should work partly. It has 2 5 piece bonuses, one gives flat weapon damage and should be fine, and the other fills a soul gem/heals you and is not fine.

caperb

Warden tanks in beekeeper's + plague doctor again xD

Sorc best go with amber plasm + alfiq + 2 willpower or another combination?

NotTaylorSwift

Are u going to confirm that this is strictly a test and has no chance of remaining after the 3 weeks?

If something like this remained will u give refunds to all the people who bought past content with the premise of being able to use new items in cyrodiil, like me. I have even bought the new chapter, nowhere did it say I wouldn’t be able to use new items in cyrodiil

Dietche

Eclipse0990 wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno What about flat damage stats like war maiden?

I would say War Maiden would function like Seducer was mentioned as functioning. Seducer only affects magika abilities, the same as Maiden does. So that would have to proc as an ability too.

<0.02g lands in a far away bucket>

Vevvev

Guessing Mythics won't be working during this test as well?

marius_buys

Wow so no monster sets or mythic sets?

Ghostbane

Will we be taking the 50% damage reduction off Battle Spirit then in the spirit of calculations being naughty?

Kikazaru

If the test DO confirm that proc sets are at fault with the server performance; I wonder how it'll be adjusted from a balance and performance perspective.

If not, then what is next can they do?

What classes will benefit the most from the testing? Nightblades and Sorcerers?

This will be exciting to see.

ExoY

@ZOS_GinaBruno could you clarify if other sets than the named above do not work entirely or only its bonus afflicted by the proc.

E.g.
Can I wear two pieces false god for 1x spell crit, or even 5 pieces perfected false god for 2xspell crit and 1xspell dmg
New Moon would be another example which was already asked about a few times.

Thanks!

Rykoth

There goes Maelstrom/Vateshran Hollows weapons.

SgtNuttzmeg

Rykoth wrote: »

There goes Maelstrom/Vateshran Hollows weapons.

About time