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Magcro DPS nerfed, Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist no longer benefiting from Major Prophecy
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I reported this bug in the thread here during the first week of PTS and with the bug report function on PTS later on to make sure it was addressed, but I didn't see this mentioned in the latest patch notes, so I made a template to test it out. Turns out Blastbones is still not benefiting from Major Prophecy from either a spell power pot or Inner Light. I tested this with a build that has a 72.2% crit rate and three Grave Lord abilities slotted for an effective 102.2% crit rate, and Blastbones/Skeletal Arcanist still doesn't crit 100% of the time on a target under 25% health.
Currently on the Live servers if you have Inner Light slotted, your Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist will get the 10% crit buff (doesn't work with a spell power pot though, only Inner Light, another bug I've reported that has gone unaddressed). Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist are roughly ~25% of Magcro DPS, so a nerf to their crit rate is going to be a noticeable loss in single target DPS, and an even bigger loss in aoe DPS. It honestly seems like bug reports just aren't even being read if I can report this bug three weeks ago and not see it addressed in any way. Or was the intention to nerf Magcro DPS? Blastbones is still fairly unreliable with the new "changes" since it goes to the fourth gcd like 7-8m away from your target when on live it can reliably be every 3rd gcd in this scenario, and the damage increase passive no longer works.
Honestly I was kind of hopeful for my Magcro this patch with the Blastbones changes, but since the damage of Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist has been nerfed, overall DPS in trials/dungeons will probably end up being lower, since my parses dropped 3-4% on PTS due to the nerf to the crit rate. With the loss of crit and the passive, DPS will be especially bad when not in melee range.
Also the casting bug with Boneyard (easily reproduced by just casting boneyard repeatedly until the animation will stop and the ability can't be casted for half a second) also wasn't addressed, which periodically causes Boneyard to just not cast.
ZOS????/////
Edited by ecru on 11 February 2020 01:38 Currently on the Live servers if you have Inner Light slotted, your Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist will get the 10% crit buff (doesn't work with a spell power pot though, only Inner Light, another bug I've reported that has gone unaddressed). Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist are roughly ~25% of Magcro DPS, so a nerf to their crit rate is going to be a noticeable loss in single target DPS, and an even bigger loss in aoe DPS. It honestly seems like bug reports just aren't even being read if I can report this bug three weeks ago and not see it addressed in any way. Or was the intention to nerf Magcro DPS? Blastbones is still fairly unreliable with the new "changes" since it goes to the fourth gcd like 7-8m away from your target when on live it can reliably be every 3rd gcd in this scenario, and the damage increase passive no longer works.
Honestly I was kind of hopeful for my Magcro this patch with the Blastbones changes, but since the damage of Blastbones and Skeletal Arcanist has been nerfed, overall DPS in trials/dungeons will probably end up being lower, since my parses dropped 3-4% on PTS due to the nerf to the crit rate. With the loss of crit and the passive, DPS will be especially bad when not in melee range.
Also the casting bug with Boneyard (easily reproduced by just casting boneyard repeatedly until the animation will stop and the ability can't be casted for half a second) also wasn't addressed, which periodically causes Boneyard to just not cast.
ZOS????/////
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RaptorRodeoGod✭✭✭✭✭Does this affect all pets, or just necro pets?Add a Scribing skill that works like Arcanist beam.
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✭RaptorRodeoGod wrote: »Does this affect all pets, or just necro pets?
I didn't test any other pets so I can't say. Necro is easy to test because you can reach over 100% crit easily, it would be a little more difficult to test other pets because it's hard to determine whether you've lost crit or if you're just unlucky unless you parse for a very long time.Gryphon Heart
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✭Anyone tested if Stamcro BB has the same bug?
Also how about other pets on other classes? If remember right, pets should all have the same damage modifiers as the player.. if one class is affected by this, would not be surprised if other pets are bugged too.
Or just "temporary" pets and thus bye bye for Necro performance until the next Chapter (they prolly not fix it before it..)1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I think one of the upcoming performance updates is an overhaul of how pets work. Maybe they are saving this bug for when they redo how pets work? I'm just wildly guessing.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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✭✭Pets don't get benefit from Bloodthirsty jewelry as well, so not surprised on this one.Edited by Olupajmibanan on 11 February 2020 13:135 -
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✭Is this new? I always have low crit rates on bb and the skeletal mage on live. I assumed that it was the execute passive not affecting them.
On live Major Prophecy from Inner Light works with blastbones/skeletal mage, but a potion doesn't, so if you don't have inner light on your bar you won't get the crit. Now on PTS neither work.
I realized this after doing a bunch of parsing trying to figure out why taking Inner Light off of my bar and replacing it with Degeneration was lowering my DPS. 5% max magicka should be less than the extra dps from Degeneration, but after going over all of the parses, I noticed my crit rate on blastbones was lower than it should be.Edited by ecru on 11 February 2020 13:56Gryphon Heart
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Crit from the passive doesn’t appear in your stat sheet though. It’s going to be handled by a different piece of code, maybe similar to how bloodthirsty is handled (which doesn’t affect pets). This might not be the source of the problem but the fact remains that necro pets consistently under crit.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I believe something similar is going on with the Sorcerer’s Greater Storm Atronach. It’s Zap Attack always has lower crit then the rest of my skills. I haven’t found a way to prove that it’s specifically Major Prophecy that is missing, but it does seem to be around 10-15% crit usually.1 -
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✭bump for visibility, hoping this bug doesn't make it to liveGryphon Heart
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✭Is this new? I always have low crit rates on bb and the skeletal mage on live. I assumed that it was the execute passive not affecting them.
On live Major Prophecy from Inner Light works with blastbones/skeletal mage, but a potion doesn't, so if you don't have inner light on your bar you won't get the crit. Now on PTS neither work.
I realized this after doing a bunch of parsing trying to figure out why taking Inner Light off of my bar and replacing it with Degeneration was lowering my DPS. 5% max magicka should be less than the extra dps from Degeneration, but after going over all of the parses, I noticed my crit rate on blastbones was lower than it should be.
If its bugged on live... Hm. Zos specifically made pets inherent your crit chance1 -
Elusiin✭✭✭✭✭I'm trying to be optimistic that these issues will be address before live. I wanna come back to eso for magcro...0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭SeaUnicorn wrote: »Bump, bugs like that should not be ignored.
Just because the devs don’t respond in bug threads doesn’t mean they‘re not monitoring feedback, @SeaUnicorn.
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✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »SeaUnicorn wrote: »Bump, bugs like that should not be ignored.
Just because the devs don’t respond in bug threads doesn’t mean they‘re not monitoring feedback, @SeaUnicorn.
Bumping the thread is frowned upon per the forum rules.
Devs also prioritize feedback based an amount of angry comments related to it. The bigger the thread is - more likely it going to be fixed in timely fashion. I do not want to spend a whole major update with broken abilities yet again. It's enough that blasbones may or may not decide to hit the target. Not when it hits it won't hit as hard as it supposed to?!
How many times was siphon targeting issues reported?! Still same hit-box-overlap-unable-to-target-my-corpse... Necro is a paid content and is has buggy skills. Selling defective items is "frowned upon" but the law
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✭I think it's issue with Inner Light, not bbones themselves. I dont play a lot necroes, but in case of DK, the char sheet get decreased crit chance if I have both Flames of Oblivion and Inner Light on a bar. Both of skills passively give Major Prophecy. I get the crit chance back if I use the pot.2 -
Brandathorbel✭✭✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »SeaUnicorn wrote: »Bump, bugs like that should not be ignored.
Just because the devs don’t respond in bug threads doesn’t mean they‘re not monitoring feedback, @SeaUnicorn.
Bumping the thread is frowned upon per the forum rules.
and that is crappy communication to do that and not very smart.
by just making a simple comment - we have seen this - it takes the fight out of everyone.
to not make a comment is just bad.1 -
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It went live, lost 3% dps. This is on the target atro starting at 24% health. 72.2% crit, 3 grave lord abilities slotted, 102.2% effective crit, and blastbones and skeletal arcanist is not getting the extra 10% from Major Prophecy from a potion or Inner Light.
Edited by ecru on 25 February 2020 05:33Gryphon Heart
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✭so yeah this still hasn't been fixed
minor prophecy works with blastbones/skeletal arcanist, but major prophecy still doesn't work at all
zos?Gryphon Heart
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