Unchained Aggressor changes(Major berserk)

FrankonPC

From the PTS patch notes today in the developers comments section for Unchained Aggressor

We’ve reduced the duration to still be long enough to allow you to spend at least a second or two healing yourself before going on the attack

I think this shorter window of 6 seconds makes a lot of sense. Could it also apply to sets like heem jas and abilities like reaper's mark? The 5 second duration is too short to use either reliably solo or small scale typically. Heem jas basically already has 100% uptime in ball group situations, adding another 1 second for them doesn't change a lot, but it gives other players in non-zerg/non ballgroup situations the chance to get a powerful buff with a set and use it also.


I think 6 seconds could still be too short for this set in some situations, but less than 9 makes sense to me!

NBrookus

The potential uptime is still really, really high on this set, since you can expect to be CC'd on cooldown every single time. And if you are fighting people with the set, all it takes is one javelin spamming puglet to ruin your little bit of ability to counter the set.

katorga

I like the concept of the set: CC at your own risk.

juhislihis19

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

Sandman929

So they've essentially given this set higher uptime because they think people are getting CC'd and taking time to think "Hmm...should I use my CC break now or save it for later?"

Ariades_swe

Dizzying swing and most of the skills that got a cc as a secondary effect like toppling charge etc will be horrible vs people using this set.
I'm gonna build a tanky af stamcro using this set together with the titanborn.
Just stay on my backbar with my 3 hots ticking until some thirsty moron stuns me when I'm below 50 hp in hope of killing me.
Cc break, frontbar, onslaught bb execute gg.

Xvorg

Ok boys and girls... I'm gonna give you a little piece of my mind.

If you want to take advantage of this set, just raise your alchemy. You did it? OK, next.

Farm all, Emetic Russula and Water Hyacint you can

Now just go to your closest alchemy station and make a POTION with those 2 guys.

Withe the new set on, drink that pot, and Break free.

Tadaaaaaaa, Major Berserk on demand.

Now, can you see how BAD is this development team, that puts the strongest buff in the whole game on a set that can be proc through some tricks with alchemy?

Now if you want to wreck people in PvP some speed pot glyphs and Voila.

Bomblade never seemed more appealing than today, right?

TheFM

Lets give stamina players even more absurdly strong sets! Sounds like a good idea!.

Sandman929

Xvorg wrote: »

Ok boys and girls... I'm gonna give you a little piece of my mind.

If you want to take advantage of this set, just raise your alchemy. You did it? OK, next.

Farm all, Emetic Russula and Water Hyacint you can

Now just go to your closest alchemy station and make a POTION with those 2 guys.

Withe the new set on, drink that pot, and Break free.

Tadaaaaaaa, Major Berserk on demand.

Now, can you see how BAD is this development team, that puts the strongest buff in the whole game on a set that can be proc through some tricks with alchemy?

Now if you want to wreck people in PvP some speed pot glyphs and Voila.

Bomblade never seemed more appealing than today, right?

But that won't happen right? Instead, players will have to think carefully about whether or not to break free when they're CC'd.

SenpaiNFT

Xvorg wrote: »

Ok boys and girls... I'm gonna give you a little piece of my mind.

If you want to take advantage of this set, just raise your alchemy. You did it? OK, next.

Farm all, Emetic Russula and Water Hyacint you can

Now just go to your closest alchemy station and make a POTION with those 2 guys.

Withe the new set on, drink that pot, and Break free.

Tadaaaaaaa, Major Berserk on demand.

Now, can you see how BAD is this development team, that puts the strongest buff in the whole game on a set that can be proc through some tricks with alchemy?

Now if you want to wreck people in PvP some speed pot glyphs and Voila.

Bomblade never seemed more appealing than today, right?

Why are people like this allowed to speak on the forums?

Xvorg

Sandman929 wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

Ok boys and girls... I'm gonna give you a little piece of my mind.

If you want to take advantage of this set, just raise your alchemy. You did it? OK, next.

Farm all, Emetic Russula and Water Hyacint you can

Now just go to your closest alchemy station and make a POTION with those 2 guys.

Withe the new set on, drink that pot, and Break free.

Tadaaaaaaa, Major Berserk on demand.

Now, can you see how BAD is this development team, that puts the strongest buff in the whole game on a set that can be proc through some tricks with alchemy?

Now if you want to wreck people in PvP some speed pot glyphs and Voila.

Bomblade never seemed more appealing than today, right?

But that won't happen right? Instead, players will have to think carefully about whether or not to break free when they're CC'd.

Sure, sure... casual players don't even know this game.

Lower the ceilling and raise the floor they said.

If this is going life as it is, I'll have a nice time bombing even on my DK

nesakinter

@Xvorg tested that in PTS for bombblade, CC pot pulls you out of stealth. Technically you could activate it from a safe location and run to enemy zerg. The lower duration makes it much harder to make it work for bomb blade now as now you now have to break free, cloak to target while also dealing with a 4 gcd Proxy det. The window is virtually too short and even in the best case, by the time you start the hit, you would have hardly 1 sec of berserk time left.

Also, technically Acuity proc deals way more guaranteed damage than Major Berserk.

technohic

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

Yeah; I'lll be curious to see how it works in reality; But I could see going 0 sutain, runnng fury with it and just turtle up and wait to counter punch. Thats kind of what we have now. You are best to wait to hold your stuns until you go for a combo that might finish someone. Having pugs makes that difficult.

xylena

Don't worry guys, the Tank Meta isn't going anywhere, you'll still be able to go full potato and not die!

Xvorg

nesakinter wrote: »

@Xvorg tested that in PTS for bombblade, CC pot pulls you out of stealth. Technically you could activate it from a safe location and run to enemy zerg. The lower duration makes it much harder to make it work for bomb blade now as now you now have to break free, cloak to target while also dealing with a 4 gcd Proxy det. The window is virtually too short and even in the best case, by the time you start the hit, you would have hardly 1 sec of berserk time left.

Also, technically Acuity proc deals way more guaranteed damage than Major Berserk.

It seems you're right, the only possible solution could be drink the pot next to the objective to break free and then go for the kill.

Regarding major berserk, it's right that Acuity gives you more dmg, but berserk also increases VD tooltip a 25%, which is not low.

Nevertheless, I see how a SDK or a stamplar can give a huge use of the pot while combining the set with things like fury and an ulti

Cronopoly

Xvorg wrote: »

Ok boys and girls... I'm gonna give you a little piece of my mind.

If you want to take advantage of this set, just raise your alchemy. You did it? OK, next.

Farm all, Emetic Russula and Water Hyacint you can

Now just go to your closest alchemy station and make a POTION with those 2 guys.

Withe the new set on, drink that pot, and Break free.

Tadaaaaaaa, Major Berserk on demand.

Now, can you see how BAD is this development team, that puts the strongest buff in the whole game on a set that can be proc through some tricks with alchemy?

Now if you want to wreck people in PvP some speed pot glyphs and Voila.

Bomblade never seemed more appealing than today, right?

Jesus

NBrookus

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

katorga

Breaking free with a pot while not actively CC'd is confirmed?

Man there are going to be some epic whines in the forums after the next patch. They will literally be able to complain about the entire game and just demand the entire thing be nerfed, lol. Maybe we need an "ESO Spirit" buff that reduces everything 75%, adds .4 seconds cast time to everything, and auto blocks, rolls, heals or breaks free as appropriate.

Xvorg

NBrookus wrote: »

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

Yup, also consider it.

Valiant, Fury, and even the new set that breaks free automatically. Of course Slimecraw for extra DMG

Xvorg

katorga wrote: »

Breaking free with a pot while not actively CC'd is confirmed?

Man there are going to be some epic whines in the forums after the next patch. They will literally be able to complain about the entire game and just demand the entire thing be nerfed, lol. Maybe we need an "ESO Spirit" buff that reduces everything 75%, adds .4 seconds cast time to everything, and auto blocks, rolls, heals or breaks free as appropriate.

As a last resource, they are not even going to touch the set, but they are going to nerf major berserk... don't be so surprised if it becomes a 15% extra dmg

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NBrookus

Xvorg wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

Yup, also consider it.

Valiant, Fury, and even the new set that breaks free automatically. Of course Slimecraw for extra DMG

Depends on class... that stamden example already has Minor Berserk.

I think you are right about the likelihood of a Major Berserk nerfs instead. Which would unfortunately nerf Atro synergy and other sets and skills which don't need one at all.

evoniee

warriors fury + this set gonna be the hot cakes next patch

FrankonPC

TheFM wrote: »

Lets give stamina players even more absurdly strong sets! Sounds like a good idea!.

This set works for everyone, but I am mostly talking about giving the duration of the buff to 6 seconds to apply to other skills and abilities.

Kolzki

NBrookus wrote: »

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

Although weapon damage doesn't buff proc sets, enchants or poisons. Major berserk buffs everything.

Ariades_swe

NBrookus wrote: »

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

Is that how major berserk works?
I thought it buffed offensive abilities damage with 25% and not actual weapon damage which would also benefit healing.

NBrookus

It doesn't show up in your character sheet stats, no. But it is functionally there, and adds 25% more damage to *everything.* So it's similar to how max stam/mag stats buff damage, but not heals.

universal_wrath

Ariades_swe wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

Is that how major berserk works?
I thought it buffed offensive abilities damage with 25% and not actual weapon damage which would also benefit healing.

You are correct, major berserk will not incrase you weapon or spell dmg. It will add 25% more dmg to eveeything you do. You do 12k dizzy, with major berseek you add 25%=3k dmg and you will di like 15k dizzy now. This goes will proc sets and ultimates as well. Crazy thing becauae some proc sets already do high dmg at base. Calurion legay for instant deals 15-20k proc smg, you imagine how much it will do with major berseek. Dawnbreaker, collosous, japs, skeleton,, crystls frags...etc. if set go live as it is, better build tanky and make proc sets do the work for you.

Mayrael

universal_wrath wrote: »

Ariades_swe wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

juhislihis19 wrote: »

While Major Berserk is the best buff in the game, don't forget as a stam char you're sacrificing either Fury or NMA, so that's about 500-600 WD. And Berserk won't help heals.

I think this is an interesting set. Worth a try.

So I run 5k weapon damage on stamden, which is by no means a high damage build. Major Berserk = 1250 damage, without the cost increase of NMA. While NMA is 100% uptime, you don't *need* 100% uptime in Cyro, you need burst windows.

As for Xvorg's example: pair with Clever Alchemist.

Is that how major berserk works?
I thought it buffed offensive abilities damage with 25% and not actual weapon damage which would also benefit healing.

You are correct, major berserk will not incrase you weapon or spell dmg. It will add 25% more dmg to eveeything you do. You do 12k dizzy, with major berseek you add 25%=3k dmg and you will di like 15k dizzy now. This goes will proc sets and ultimates as well. Crazy thing becauae some proc sets already do high dmg at base. Calurion legay for instant deals 15-20k proc smg, you imagine how much it will do with major berseek. Dawnbreaker, collosous, japs, skeleton,, crystls frags...etc. if set go live as it is, better build tanky and make proc sets do the work for you.

We've been there already. When Velidreth + Viper + Widowmaker could proc all at once, now we will have tanky setups with burst windows high enough to kill anyone not playing tank.

Tip:
Use Aggressor (Crafted) + Titanborn, those 2 sets when under 50% hp will make your damage insane, add to this tankyness and you're good to go.

In the end all that matters is stats density and redistribution in weaker spots.

If you played defensive sets now, just move your defenses somewhere else and use most dense offensive sets instead. This will allow you to have similar level of defense with higher offense.

...and its amazing, that stamina once again gets 2 incredibly strong sets, while magicka can play some minigames to support someone at best. Another interesting point is that usually crafted sets are made universal, meaning both magicka and stamina cause them but not this time.

When developers are biased sheit like this happens.

code65536

Mayrael wrote: »

Another interesting point is that usually crafted sets are made universal, meaning both magicka and stamina cause them but not this time.

The 4p bonus on this set grants both weapon damage and spell damage. So I'm assuming that you are referring to the max stam and stam recovery on the 2p/3p bonuses. In this case, I think that's because those two bonuses are there to support the stam cost of breaking free. Same reason why so many magicka players run shackle, so that that they have the stam pool and sustain for things like CC breaks.

robpr

Suddenly every templar will use Novas now in fear of this set xD