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cyrodill rant
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terrannova✭✭✭https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/458269/solution-for-pvp-cyrodiil-performance#latest
This might be the solution.
i honestly agree, untill lately when i saw a small group like 15 players that made server really laggy.
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✭✭Tried vivec again tonight on xbox, as i do from time to time when shor is dead.. God what a pile of dog *** pvp is right now. How can the devs not be embarrassed??? The performance is so *** bad.0 -
terrannova✭✭✭Tried vivec again tonight on xbox, as i do from time to time when shor is dead.. God what a pile of dog *** pvp is right now. How can the devs not be embarrassed??? The performance is so *** bad.
shor is always dead bro, except when pvp event is active. this has been going on for 1-2 years now.. i dont think they care anymore for real0 -
CiNNeR✭✭✭It seems to be a bit better from the start of the event. Still a lot of lag when zergs are around and no 7 seconds immunity after break free from stun but no freezes or crashes today.
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misfitmanic✭✭✭I have mostly avoided Cyro for the past few months. It's a shame, because back in the Trueflame days, I practically lived there... I miss the times when the PVP was fun, enjoyable, fresh. Now it's always lag and disconnects or wtf just happened moments (and not the good wtf moments that leave me laughing...)
Please ZOS, put more focus into fixing this awesome PVP content you made. We love it when it works. If you fix it, we will return
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terrannova✭✭✭misfitmanic wrote: »I have mostly avoided Cyro for the past few months. It's a shame, because back in the Trueflame days, I practically lived there... I miss the times when the PVP was fun, enjoyable, fresh. Now it's always lag and disconnects or wtf just happened moments (and not the good wtf moments that leave me laughing...)
Please ZOS, put more focus into fixing this awesome PVP content you made. We love it when it works. If you fix it, we will return
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terrannova✭✭✭happened right now, just only logged into cyrodiil after a long while.
Went straight to faregyll to defend, came up to a straight line up to where graphics were fine,
crossed the line
,graphics were like 240p and couldnt move for 2 mins or sth.
An enemy came up to me
,jabbed me 3 times
, didnt recieve ANY dmg.
I used 3-4 skills ,
he insta died
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Thunderclap✭✭✭Back on vivic what happen????????????? During fight for BB. Ping goes up over 5000 and the connection was gone and dead.
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ThanatosXR✭✭✭The mass lag is z fault, people blame it on servers its not, go look up how many ports the software needs open to work! Way more then any client Ive seen.
Luckily for you there is a fix but most people arint technical so dont know about networking.
Most network lag disappears by changing you connection to IPv6 which doesn't use a nat to route information, since every device has its own address. Cp pvp is screwed regardless too much data transferred its impossible to transfer all that to players far apart due to laws of physics, they seemed to have ignored that.1 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭It isn't Vivec, its every server pop locked. ZOS has done as much as they can, players instead of utilizing 100% of the map, fight in 5-10% of the map, faction lock pop fights at one keep, thus the server crashes or can't sustain it. If battles were spread it may be better. I for one don't play Cyrodiil around 2:30PM - 7:30PM PST because of this haha.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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✭✭Your packets go through Akami's DDOS protection server before hitting ZOS's server, which adds what seems like another 100ms to our latency when we play. I am sure ZOS and their shard system is to blame but yeah...we're all essentially playing ESO with a perma VPN but doesn't find the best route, it's a static route and usually increases latency. My average ping is around 150-170, and jumps to 299+ in cyrodiil. Just the way it is for now.0 -
ThanatosXR✭✭✭It isn't Vivec, its every server pop locked. ZOS has done as much as they can, players instead of utilizing 100% of the map, fight in 5-10% of the map, faction lock pop fights at one keep, thus the server crashes or can't sustain it. If battles were spread it may be better. I for one don't play Cyrodiil around 2:30PM - 7:30PM PST because of this haha.
Yes it is vivc, the other campaigns has normal latancy, vivc overhelms clients with data, hence the log out issues, the data is a mess and the client tries to process it but its too much data to process in required time ending in your cpu not knowing what to do cause the dataset is a large mess so it just drops and logs u out
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datagram, its udp based datagramsEdited by ThanatosXR on 19 April 2019 18:060 -
Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭ThanatosXR wrote: »It isn't Vivec, its every server pop locked. ZOS has done as much as they can, players instead of utilizing 100% of the map, fight in 5-10% of the map, faction lock pop fights at one keep, thus the server crashes or can't sustain it. If battles were spread it may be better. I for one don't play Cyrodiil around 2:30PM - 7:30PM PST because of this haha.
Yes it is vivc, the other campaigns has normal latancy, vivc overhelms clients with data, hence the log out issues, the data is a mess and the client tries to process it but its too much data to process in required time ending in your cpu not knowing what to do cause the dataset is a large mess so it just drops and logs u out
I'm saying ALL campaigns that were the priority over the last 5 years had the same issues.
Vivec is just one of many 30 days to have this issue.
Vivec came out when Morrowind did, the other campaigns barely have this issue because they lack population.... Sometimes Shor lags out to.Edited by Casterial on 19 April 2019 18:06Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Goregrinder wrote: »Your packets go through Akami's DDOS protection server before hitting ZOS's server, which adds what seems like another 100ms to our latency when we play. I am sure ZOS and their shard system is to blame but yeah...we're all essentially playing ESO with a perma VPN but doesn't find the best route, it's a static route and usually increases latency. My average ping is around 150-170, and jumps to 299+ in cyrodiil. Just the way it is for now.
ZOS Shard System is too aggressive in my opinion, I don't like how every city looks like a ghost town.. They should revisit a lot of server side codeDaggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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ThanatosXR✭✭✭
No the other campaigns dont transfer cp information which is alot of variables to expect clients to process in short amounts of time.ThanatosXR wrote: »It isn't Vivec, its every server pop locked. ZOS has done as much as they can, players instead of utilizing 100% of the map, fight in 5-10% of the map, faction lock pop fights at one keep, thus the server crashes or can't sustain it. If battles were spread it may be better. I for one don't play Cyrodiil around 2:30PM - 7:30PM PST because of this haha.
Yes it is vivc, the other campaigns has normal latancy, vivc overhelms clients with data, hence the log out issues, the data is a mess and the client tries to process it but its too much data to process in required time ending in your cpu not knowing what to do cause the dataset is a large mess so it just drops and logs u out
I'm saying ALL campaigns that were the priority over the last 5 years had the same issues.
Vivec is just one of many 30 days to have this issue.
Vivec came out when Morrowind did, the other campaigns barely have this issue because they lack population.... Sometimes Shor lags out to.
You dont seeem to understand the underlying data being transferred here, regarding overhead vivc has compared to the rest. They dont require as much data transfer so regardless of players dont end up failing. What you dont seen to get is vivc causes clients literally fail due to heavier data transfers, the others dont cause clients to fail even with large amounts of players.
Vivc issues isnt too many players, its too much data expected to be processed in little time
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Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭ThanatosXR wrote: »
No the other campaigns dont transfer cp information which is alot of variables to expect clients to process in short amounts of time.ThanatosXR wrote: »It isn't Vivec, its every server pop locked. ZOS has done as much as they can, players instead of utilizing 100% of the map, fight in 5-10% of the map, faction lock pop fights at one keep, thus the server crashes or can't sustain it. If battles were spread it may be better. I for one don't play Cyrodiil around 2:30PM - 7:30PM PST because of this haha.
Yes it is vivc, the other campaigns has normal latancy, vivc overhelms clients with data, hence the log out issues, the data is a mess and the client tries to process it but its too much data to process in required time ending in your cpu not knowing what to do cause the dataset is a large mess so it just drops and logs u out
I'm saying ALL campaigns that were the priority over the last 5 years had the same issues.
Vivec is just one of many 30 days to have this issue.
Vivec came out when Morrowind did, the other campaigns barely have this issue because they lack population.... Sometimes Shor lags out to.
You dont seeem to understand the underlying data being transferred here, regarding overhead vivc has compared to the rest. They dont require as much data transfer so regardless of players dont end up failing. What you dont seen to get is vivc causes clients literally fail due to heavier data transfers, the others dont cause clients to fail even with large amounts of players.
Vivc issues isnt too many players, its too much data expected to be processed in little time
I'm trying to say, and i'll quote it again:I'm saying ALL campaigns that were the priority over the last 5 years had the same issues.
Vivec is just one of many 30 days to have this issue.
We know its a well known issue, but the CP 30 day campaigns have had this issue since CP came out.
In the VR days (you should know this) we just had high ping, no disconnects.Daggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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ThanatosXR✭✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »Your packets go through Akami's DDOS protection server before hitting ZOS's server, which adds what seems like another 100ms to our latency when we play. I am sure ZOS and their shard system is to blame but yeah...we're all essentially playing ESO with a perma VPN but doesn't find the best route, it's a static route and usually increases latency. My average ping is around 150-170, and jumps to 299+ in cyrodiil. Just the way it is for now.
ZOS Shard System is too aggressive in my opinion, I don't like how every city looks like a ghost town.. They should revisit a lot of server side code
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Casterial✭✭✭✭✭
✭ThanatosXR wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Your packets go through Akami's DDOS protection server before hitting ZOS's server, which adds what seems like another 100ms to our latency when we play. I am sure ZOS and their shard system is to blame but yeah...we're all essentially playing ESO with a perma VPN but doesn't find the best route, it's a static route and usually increases latency. My average ping is around 150-170, and jumps to 299+ in cyrodiil. Just the way it is for now.
ZOS Shard System is too aggressive in my opinion, I don't like how every city looks like a ghost town.. They should revisit a lot of server side code
Typical of theme park design, once the ride is finish you dont go back
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Ramber✭✭✭✭PvP is now and has been for some time what i call 'Freeze Fighting".... you play while always waiting for when your character freezes and you don't know if your going to be alive or dead after 8-12 seconds of not being able to do anything. so yeah freeze fighting
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✭PvP is now and has been for some time what i call 'Freeze Fighting".... you play while always waiting for when your character freezes and you don't know if your going to be alive or dead after 8-12 seconds of not being able to do anything. so yeah freeze fighting
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✭PvP is now and has been for some time what i call 'Freeze Fighting".... you play while always waiting for when your character freezes and you don't know if your going to be alive or dead after 8-12 seconds of not being able to do anything. so yeah freeze fighting
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ThanatosXR✭✭✭ThanatosXR wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »Your packets go through Akami's DDOS protection server before hitting ZOS's server, which adds what seems like another 100ms to our latency when we play. I am sure ZOS and their shard system is to blame but yeah...we're all essentially playing ESO with a perma VPN but doesn't find the best route, it's a static route and usually increases latency. My average ping is around 150-170, and jumps to 299+ in cyrodiil. Just the way it is for now.
ZOS Shard System is too aggressive in my opinion, I don't like how every city looks like a ghost town.. They should revisit a lot of server side code
Typical of theme park design, once the ride is finish you dont go back
TRUE, only BIG major cities host people, and its usually the capitols lol
I personally dont know why they didn't go for the RuneScape model here, that would have been pimp to see a RS designed world by with a mix of them park features, hell they could literally redesign Eso world pretty easy to a full open world. Obviously time, effort and money but would be worth it, RuneScape still prints billions 19 years later, wow is a joke compared to it sure it makes money but the ride always ends for theme parks. Eso will met the same fate, its funny cause a simple open world game like RS will be around likely beyond my life .0 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Vivic. Fight for Fare. During the fight and connection was gone. "Some" blue inisde fare *** game PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800
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terrannova✭✭✭after all this time ,with the so called server performance upgrades, still same lag.
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Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭You can still have all groups of 12 in Discord or Teamspeak, even if they aren't all in one giant group in game. You would just be dealing with 4x 12-man groups taking a keep instead of one single giant group.0 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Sotha Sil. Fight for BRK. During the fight, ping goes up over 8000 and connection was gone. "some" reds inisde brk *** game PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50801
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Thunderclap✭✭✭I must reactive that, because since the latest DLC iit's gotten worse again. Just like after every DLC.
PVP EU Bahlokdaan. Fight for BRK. During the fight, ping goes up over 8000 and connection was gone. "some" reds inisde brk *** game PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800 -
Thunderclap✭✭✭Could log back in PVP after 4 tries. Run back to brk. Reach BRK and lose again the connection to the server. This is really a *** software. I'm sick and tired of the dirty performance of the game today. PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800
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Thunderclap✭✭✭And again. PVP EU Bahlokdaan. Fight for Sej. During the fight, ping goes up over 9000 and connection was gone. "some" reds around Sej *** game PC EU - PVP - CP 2700+ Win 11 Home 64-bit - 32GB - SSD 1000GB - Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 265K (20 CPUs), ~3.9GHz - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50800
