Official Discussion Thread for "Battlegrounds for All & Morrowind Moving to Crown Store"

ZOS_GinaBruno

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Coming Soon: Battlegrounds for All & Morrowind Moving to Crown Store & ESO Plus. With the launch of Summerset and Update 18, we are making a few changes to the way players can acquire The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind, play the Warden Class, and access PvP battlegrounds. Check out the article for all the details!

Minno

about damn time BGs became base game!!

WhiteCoatSyndrome

Looks like ESO+ can rejoice.

RebornV3x

O man imma go get the popcorn this is gonna be good...here comes all the but hurt people and rightfully so why couldnt we buy Morrowind with crowns a year ago or the fact it will come with ESO+ now lol

Blackleopardex

I have Morrowind but i think many agrees with me when I say we would like to see a more active BG

JD2013

Turelus

Good changes for the future of ESO and new players.

Going to cause and absolute riot on these forums though.

WildRaptorX

Good for new players but a huge smack in the face for the players who actually stay with the game

VaranisArano

I'll be honest.

I wasn't going to wait a year to get Morrowind and Battlegrounds for free.

But this only reinforces what I already knew, that this "Chapter" stuff was just a blatant cash grab.

JD2013

Turelus wrote: »

Good changes for the future of ESO and new players.

Going to cause and absolute riot on these forums though.

Duck and cover.

GoonyGoat

Turelus wrote: »

Good changes for the future of ESO and new players.

Going to cause and absolute riot on these forums though.

Agreed! At least if the eu server goes down again tonight we'll have something to read

Marabornwingrion

I feel ripped off.

VaranisArano

I've always said that the Morrowind Chapter was three DLCs: Morrowind zone, Warden Class, and Battlegrounds.

You should have released it like this from the start, ZOS.

makreth

so next year we can expect summerset to be the base game and we will ditch the elder scrolls online:morrowind ... what the...

I mostly annoyed by the fact that Zos changes these dlcs/chapters/base game all the time now making it not so trustworthy anymore

WildRaptorX

Should have done this from the start. It’s the case of ZoS is money hungry or ESO is flopping so ZOS has to pull this crap so you can afford to eat.

You guys need to actually talk to us about how you want to ha for content. Will Summerset also be free next year?

Turelus

Wraith66 wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Good changes for the future of ESO and new players.

Going to cause and absolute riot on these forums though.

Agreed! At least if the eu server goes down again tonight we'll have something to read

Hopefully it's sorted now. I have a lot of dailies to do tonight!

I do think BG going base game is very good for their future health.

The rest being broken up and sold separately (or under ESO+) is good for new players who want to come to the game and get the bits they want to play.

Sixty5

I can see some complaints about this, and honestly I can see where they are coming from, when people had to spend extra to get access for it.

On the other hand, moving Battlegrounds to the base game is a much needed change, and hopefully it should bring in the ability to have multiple queues available, which is probably the thing most people want from it anyway.

VaranisArano

This is a good change for the health of the game.

Its alnost like ZOS should have released it this way from the beginning. Greed ruins everything,

cynaes

Great news. Making BGs Morrowind-only was actually one of the less insightful decisions they made.

I can live with all the rest, although I do agree that we're gonna see alot of drama in here.

Universe

MajesticHaruki

Good. Cancelled my preorder. I have Eso plus anyway. Summerset 2019 here I come!

deleted201022-005645

How does this change impact players who play on multiple servers? As it currently stands zone access and the Warden class are account-wide upgrades and therefore carry over between EU/NA servers on the same platform.

Would a new player (or existing account) need to purchase access individually through the crown store to gain access to this content or will it also be available as an account upgrade for a single purchase per platform?

Maryanne

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

This is the official discussion thread for the blog article Coming Soon: Battlegrounds for All & Morrowind Moving to Crown Store & ESO Plus. With the launch of Summerset and Update 18, we are making a few changes to the way players can acquire The Elder Scrolls Online: Morrowind, play the Warden Class, and access PvP battlegrounds. Check out the article for all the details!

The Morrowind Collector's Pack is interesting to me, but can I buy it if I already have the standard edition Morrowind AND the Discovery Pack too?

Cinbri

Finally.

CatastrophicSuccess

Really glad to hear about this change. It should bring more people into battlegrounds and hopefully this leads to even more changes with the battleground system itself, with more people using the content.

There is a lot of potential for the system and I really hope they continue to develop it further.

CaffeinatedMayhem

Sixty5 wrote: »

I can see some complaints about this, and honestly I can see where they are coming from, when people had to spend extra to get access for it.

On the other hand, moving Battlegrounds to the base game is a much needed change, and hopefully it should bring in the ability to have multiple queues available, which is probably the thing most people want from it anyway.

This is me. I think Battlegrounds should have always been base game, but am still pissed because Morrowind chapter was more than Summerset and billed as a huge PvE zone; then most of the update was focused on Battlegrounds. And Warden is STILL broken (as in not competitive). Maybe that will change now.

Katahdin

As an ESO+ participant and subscriber since launch, I feel a bit ripped off here ZoS.

NeroBad

When Skyrim was launched it had a typical AAA price tag, and its DLCs was 20-20-5 Euros. Now you can buy the special edition for 20 with the right moment.

If we argue about that Morrowind Chapter was 40 EUR and now you have options to aquire it for "free" (preorder bonus), then I hope we will argue about the whole topic, that nearly all other games do that - So if you are not okey with it in ESO you should also go to other games forums and tell them the same.

When I think a game or its dlc is too expensive I just wait then I buy it on sale which always I mean always comes.

Those who feel riped off are new comers to the gaming market, or insatiable ones.

Delpi

Everybody knows that this will happen... soon or later.

Apache_Kid

NeroBad wrote: »

When Skyrim was launched it had a typical AAA price tag, and its DLCs was 20-20-5 Euros. Now you can buy the special edition for 20 with the right moment.

If we argue about that Morrowind Chapter was 40 EUR and now you have options to aquire it for "free" (preorder bonus), then I hope we will argue about the whole topic, that nearly all other games do that - So if you are not okey with it in ESO you should also go to other games forums and tell them the same.

When I think a game or its dlc is too expensive I just wait then I buy it on sale which always I mean always comes.

Those who feel riped off are new comers to the gaming market, or insatiable ones.

That's not even why people feel cheated.

It's because ZoS had a set system in place in which they distributed DLCs. They decided to make an exception for the Morrowind DLC and take it OUT of the system they had in place so that could get a cash grab and not let people use crowns they had saved up on sale or their ESO plus to get Morrowind.

Then 1 year later, they take the exception they made for morrowind and put it back into the system.

It's not the same as what other games do in the slightest. I have never seen anything like this.

Avran_Sylt

The Expansion Marketing move didn't go over too well.

This is ZoS improving their practices.

Change after "failure" is never a pleasant experience, but it will improve the overall game in the future.

Take that into consideration before berating ZoS about this change. (As you do have ground to stand on)

Don't enforce a standard of: Our customers will be happy if we keep things as they're first released.

At the same time though, it would be best for ZoS to prepare a PR statement or action.