Why is ferocious leap hitting so hard in cp campaign?
-
SugaComa✭✭✭✭✭i use heavy armor 1h/s and my tooltip for whip is 8.1k and leap is around 12k. so i usually hit whit whip around 2.5-3k if they dont block or not fully buffed. and 5 k most with leap. i dont believe you got 12.5k from leap non crit. that guy must have around 30k tooltip for leap. no offense but i dont believe it...
He could of the op has not set any co to give him better defence
Maybe he's just set up badly himself ... I know I am0 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So, I believe I'm the MagDK the OP is referring too lol. He tried to Xv1 me several times earlier this morning, before he made this thread. I'll just say I was on fire with my new build and was killing people left and right.
Even though I have hit some people for 12.5k non crit leap, but I'm pretty sure the leap he's talking about was a crit.
Check this screenshot:
RIght click and view image to see the full size.
Actually no. The thought crossed my mind but your hit was a crit. Even though I have 3k crit resistance with full impen and 50 points in crit resist tree, 12k crit is impressive. However, I can live with that.
PS don't flatter yourself. Why don't you finish the story and tell everyone what happened next? I'll just say this, I didn't die as the picture would suggest... I may or may not have fought you several times I don't remember. Nothing memorable about fighting you other than the 12k crit leap which I wasn't referring to in my OP.
Finish the story? You mean tell everybody that you zerged me down in at least 3 different fights and almost died every time as in the screenshot? Actually I think i did kill you at least once during our encounters, and I did manage to get kills every time I was zerged down too.
Btw that leap on you wasn't empowered either, but let me ask you this, how many points do you have in ironclad? Because your crit resist doesn't mean a thing if you don't have enough points into ironclad/elemental expert to back that crit resist.
Look man I got no beef with you. I just came here asking questions and you jump in with your ego. If you must know I'm near crit max of 3300 at 3k with full impen gear. 11.5% crit reduction and wearing wizard's riposte. I've got 11% in magicka and physical reduction. I've got 19% in bastion. If I suspected you would hit me that hard with a leap I would have cast healing ward. I don't need a lesson on crit mitigation. My post has nothing to do with crit issues. I'm asking why ferocious leap is hitting for 12.5k on a non crit. Compared to all other ults That is over performing in my opinion.
I don't think you have killed me and you came close but the fact remains you didn't. If it wasn't for me the potatoes you were fighting wouldn't have killed you and likely you would have killed them. Good for you. You can 1vx potatoes.
@LegacyDM
Petrify --> flame lash --> Off Balance 5 secs (10% extra dmg through exploiter)
On a 20k leap tool tip = 10k regular dmg
WiR = + 6% extra dmg on flame AoE skills
11.6K
Maybe @Akinos was using slimecraw, that gives an extra 8% dmg
Total = 12.4 K
But the trick was the exploiter passive, look
4 mississippies between he set you off balance and leap.
1. It wasn't akinos. Akinos hit me with A 12k crit leap, which makes sense. This guy hit me with a 12.5 non crit leap.
2. Your calculations aren't taking into effect my mitigations, damage reductions, and spell resistances.
Have you considered Varen´s legacy set?? It´s not uncommon on a magDK to use that set.
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(4 items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
(5 items) When you block an attack, you have a 10% chance to cause your next direct damage area of effect attack to deal an additional 3000 Damage
Leap is buffed by this set.1 -
Lord_Hev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So, I believe I'm the MagDK the OP is referring too lol. He tried to Xv1 me several times earlier this morning, before he made this thread. I'll just say I was on fire with my new build and was killing people left and right.
Even though I have hit some people for 12.5k non crit leap, but I'm pretty sure the leap he's talking about was a crit.
Check this screenshot:
RIght click and view image to see the full size.
Actually no. The thought crossed my mind but your hit was a crit. Even though I have 3k crit resistance with full impen and 50 points in crit resist tree, 12k crit is impressive. However, I can live with that.
PS don't flatter yourself. Why don't you finish the story and tell everyone what happened next? I'll just say this, I didn't die as the picture would suggest... I may or may not have fought you several times I don't remember. Nothing memorable about fighting you other than the 12k crit leap which I wasn't referring to in my OP.
My sorc's frags would hit you for harder then that leap. lol
Don't even think about my empowered Shooting star.Edited by Lord_Hev on 17 August 2017 11:574 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭Glad to see people being salty on DK's only execute.
Even dev said Dragonknight should be specialized in tanking and fair amount of fire/poison damage. Nothing else.
Dragonknight has been nerfed harder than any other classes yet people can still find more ridiculous reason to nerf it even more, permablocking, never dying yadda yadda.
You're just bad if you get rekt'd by dragonknight as dps class.
Thank you case closed.
For more info check my signature.Edited by WaltherCarraway on 17 August 2017 12:15Back from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.1 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.Edited by Vaoh on 17 August 2017 12:325 -
Durham✭✭✭✭✭
✭Let's see atleast 3 times a night I see 25k+ damage from destro ult lol .. can't block and if they are gap closing you all I can say is lol... Destro ult are everywhere they are the current cheese of pvp.. Leap is an after thought .. the hardest hitting hit I see from an hit is usually a destro ult that I can do little about..
I blocked a leap last night I think my health moved a little lol.. yes it's blockable...PVP DEADWAIT
PVP The Unguildables0 -
Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So, I believe I'm the MagDK the OP is referring too lol. He tried to Xv1 me several times earlier this morning, before he made this thread. I'll just say I was on fire with my new build and was killing people left and right.
Even though I have hit some people for 12.5k non crit leap, but I'm pretty sure the leap he's talking about was a crit.
Check this screenshot:
RIght click and view image to see the full size.
Actually no. The thought crossed my mind but your hit was a crit. Even though I have 3k crit resistance with full impen and 50 points in crit resist tree, 12k crit is impressive. However, I can live with that.
PS don't flatter yourself. Why don't you finish the story and tell everyone what happened next? I'll just say this, I didn't die as the picture would suggest... I may or may not have fought you several times I don't remember. Nothing memorable about fighting you other than the 12k crit leap which I wasn't referring to in my OP.
Finish the story? You mean tell everybody that you zerged me down in at least 3 different fights and almost died every time as in the screenshot? Actually I think i did kill you at least once during our encounters, and I did manage to get kills every time I was zerged down too.
Btw that leap on you wasn't empowered either, but let me ask you this, how many points do you have in ironclad? Because your crit resist doesn't mean a thing if you don't have enough points into ironclad/elemental expert to back that crit resist.
Look man I got no beef with you. I just came here asking questions and you jump in with your ego. If you must know I'm near crit max of 3300 at 3k with full impen gear. 11.5% crit reduction and wearing wizard's riposte. I've got 11% in magicka and physical reduction. I've got 19% in bastion. If I suspected you would hit me that hard with a leap I would have cast healing ward. I don't need a lesson on crit mitigation. My post has nothing to do with crit issues. I'm asking why ferocious leap is hitting for 12.5k on a non crit. Compared to all other ults That is over performing in my opinion.
I don't think you have killed me and you came close but the fact remains you didn't. If it wasn't for me the potatoes you were fighting wouldn't have killed you and likely you would have killed them. Good for you. You can 1vx potatoes.
@LegacyDM
Petrify --> flame lash --> Off Balance 5 secs (10% extra dmg through exploiter)
On a 20k leap tool tip = 10k regular dmg
WiR = + 6% extra dmg on flame AoE skills
11.6K
Maybe @Akinos was using slimecraw, that gives an extra 8% dmg
Total = 12.4 K
But the trick was the exploiter passive, look
4 mississippies between he set you off balance and leap.
1. It wasn't akinos. Akinos hit me with A 12k crit leap, which makes sense. This guy hit me with a 12.5 non crit leap.
2. Your calculations aren't taking into effect my mitigations, damage reductions, and spell resistances.
Neither consider penetration or other sources of dmg increase
Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
I was born with the wrong sign
In the wrong house
With the wrong ascendancy
I took the wrong road
That led to the wrong tendencies
I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
On the wrong day of the wrong week
Used the wrong method with the wrong technique2 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭So, I believe I'm the MagDK the OP is referring too lol. He tried to Xv1 me several times earlier this morning, before he made this thread. I'll just say I was on fire with my new build and was killing people left and right.
Even though I have hit some people for 12.5k non crit leap, but I'm pretty sure the leap he's talking about was a crit.
Check this screenshot:
RIght click and view image to see the full size.
Actually no. The thought crossed my mind but your hit was a crit. Even though I have 3k crit resistance with full impen and 50 points in crit resist tree, 12k crit is impressive. However, I can live with that.
PS don't flatter yourself. Why don't you finish the story and tell everyone what happened next? I'll just say this, I didn't die as the picture would suggest... I may or may not have fought you several times I don't remember. Nothing memorable about fighting you other than the 12k crit leap which I wasn't referring to in my OP.
Finish the story? You mean tell everybody that you zerged me down in at least 3 different fights and almost died every time as in the screenshot? Actually I think i did kill you at least once during our encounters, and I did manage to get kills every time I was zerged down too.
Btw that leap on you wasn't empowered either, but let me ask you this, how many points do you have in ironclad? Because your crit resist doesn't mean a thing if you don't have enough points into ironclad/elemental expert to back that crit resist.
Look man I got no beef with you. I just came here asking questions and you jump in with your ego. If you must know I'm near crit max of 3300 at 3k with full impen gear. 11.5% crit reduction and wearing wizard's riposte. I've got 11% in magicka and physical reduction. I've got 19% in bastion. If I suspected you would hit me that hard with a leap I would have cast healing ward. I don't need a lesson on crit mitigation. My post has nothing to do with crit issues. I'm asking why ferocious leap is hitting for 12.5k on a non crit. Compared to all other ults That is over performing in my opinion.
I don't think you have killed me and you came close but the fact remains you didn't. If it wasn't for me the potatoes you were fighting wouldn't have killed you and likely you would have killed them. Good for you. You can 1vx potatoes.
It seems like you have been utterly affected by this. I think you should take a step back, and try to realize nobody gives a ***...2 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.2 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.1 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Empowering chain.
I think you're 50% on quitting lolBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.1 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.0 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.
It wouldn't be balanced though because of the crazy amount of pressure mag dks already place on their targets. Mag dk is already borderline unstoppable 1v1. I think it's the reason they don't have a execute already. As for a gap closer if they add that they would need to add a cooldown on talons. The only way i can fight a mag dk is by staying at range. So a gapcloser in combination with wings and talons would completely shut down any ranged build. Every class doesn't need access to everything to be viable1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.
Mag dk's don't need an execute.
Magplars needs a cc, e.g. shards and a good ult e.g. Spear ult back to magicka.
Warden birds needs to not go through roll, that or the stamina one should go through shields and stop magplar healing.. for balance.
Backlash and its morphs need to go off 80% the users dmg done and 20% everyone elses. Shouldn't be a skill 30k tanks can use to get 12k procs via friendly, if you want high procs you should provide most of the dmg.
Sorc shields are fine.
Soul assaults needs looking at, it's a super zerger casual friendly IWIN skill with no counter.
Eye of the destro ult needs nerfing somehow, either a radius nerf or a duration nerf. Needs to be somedown to having a walking aoe of death in pvp.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...2 -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭So, I believe I'm the MagDK the OP is referring too lol. He tried to Xv1 me several times earlier this morning, before he made this thread. I'll just say I was on fire with my new build and was killing people left and right.
Even though I have hit some people for 12.5k non crit leap, but I'm pretty sure the leap he's talking about was a crit.
Check this screenshot:
RIght click and view image to see the full size.
Actually no. The thought crossed my mind but your hit was a crit. Even though I have 3k crit resistance with full impen and 50 points in crit resist tree, 12k crit is impressive. However, I can live with that.
PS don't flatter yourself. Why don't you finish the story and tell everyone what happened next? I'll just say this, I didn't die as the picture would suggest... I may or may not have fought you several times I don't remember. Nothing memorable about fighting you other than the 12k crit leap which I wasn't referring to in my OP.
My sorc's frags would hit you for harder then that leap. lol
Don't even think about my empowered Shooting star.
Can't be empowered.0 -
deepseamk20b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Most DK's are one trick ponies no a days. They let some people bash on them. Get their buffs or wait for specific procs, then leap. Rinse and repeat. It's hits hard, really hard and allows for good follow up attack of needed to finish someone off since knockdowns are great for that, more so than other stuns IMO. Nothing much else to really say about it.Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!0 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »Most DK's are one trick ponies no a days. They let some people bash on them. Get their buffs or wait for specific procs, then leap. Rinse and repeat. It's hits hard, really hard and allows for good follow up attack of needed to finish someone off since knockdowns are great for that, more so than other stuns IMO. Nothing much else to really say about it.
How about ward spamming sorcs?
How about you roll a magicka dragonknight and let me use magplar or magsorc to melt you then?
Just LOLBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.0 -
WaltherCarraway✭✭✭✭✭deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »Most DK's are one trick ponies no a days. They let some people bash on them. Get their buffs or wait for specific procs, then leap. Rinse and repeat. It's hits hard, really hard and allows for good follow up attack of needed to finish someone off since knockdowns are great for that, more so than other stuns IMO. Nothing much else to really say about it.
It's your problem to neglect a dragonknight midfight because due to nauseating stereotype that "Oh a sword and board dragonknight must be a tanky noob" but can't accept the fact that a leap can do 7-12k uncritted.
Autism is realBack from my last hiatus. 2021 a new start.0 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.
Mag dk's don't need an execute.
Magplars needs a cc, e.g. shards and a good ult e.g. Spear ult back to magicka.
Warden birds needs to not go through roll, that or the stamina one should go through shields and stop magplar healing.. for balance.
Backlash and its morphs need to go off 80% the users dmg done and 20% everyone elses. Shouldn't be a skill 30k tanks can use to get 12k procs via friendly, if you want high procs you should provide most of the dmg.
Sorc shields are fine.
Soul assaults needs looking at, it's a super zerger casual friendly IWIN skill with no counter.
Eye of the destro ult needs nerfing somehow, either a radius nerf or a duration nerf. Needs to be somedown to having a walking aoe of death in pvp.
If they make artic wind a frozen hurricane type thing, then maybe they can make dive dodgeable1 -
Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dragon leap is the only skill that hits for adequate damage right now imo.
And its overkill too.Edited by Cathexis on 22 August 2017 00:44Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/520903/tomb-of-fps-alteration-magic-everything-you-need-to-know-about-fps
Tome of Alteration Magic II - The Manual of the Deceiver: A Beginner's Guide to Thieving
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462509/tome-of-alteration-mastery-ii-the-decievers-manual-thieving-guide-for-new-characters
Ultrawide ESO Adventure Screenshots - 7680 x 1080 Resolution
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/505262/adventures-in-ultra-ultrawide-an-ongoing-series0 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Empowering chain.
I think you're 50% on quitting lol
Nope, with ZOS rounding the math he is actually still at 0%0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Waffennacht wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.
Mag dk's don't need an execute.
Magplars needs a cc, e.g. shards and a good ult e.g. Spear ult back to magicka.
Warden birds needs to not go through roll, that or the stamina one should go through shields and stop magplar healing.. for balance.
Backlash and its morphs need to go off 80% the users dmg done and 20% everyone elses. Shouldn't be a skill 30k tanks can use to get 12k procs via friendly, if you want high procs you should provide most of the dmg.
Sorc shields are fine.
Soul assaults needs looking at, it's a super zerger casual friendly IWIN skill with no counter.
Eye of the destro ult needs nerfing somehow, either a radius nerf or a duration nerf. Needs to be somedown to having a walking aoe of death in pvp.
If they make artic wind a frozen hurricane type thing, then maybe they can make dive dodgeable
Nah 1 aoe that moves with you is already horrible for nbs and cloak..
The whole idea of a skill going through roll is annoying. Shalk goes through roll and block as well. Literally the entire combo goes through roll. Just another stupidly designed skill zos throw in to make solo/duo even harder.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Dredlord✭✭✭✭✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »Most DK's are one trick ponies no a days. They let some people bash on them. Get their buffs or wait for specific procs, then leap. Rinse and repeat. It's hits hard, really hard and allows for good follow up attack of needed to finish someone off since knockdowns are great for that, more so than other stuns IMO. Nothing much else to really say about it.
It's your problem to neglect a dragonknight midfight because due to nauseating stereotype that "Oh a sword and board dragonknight must be a tanky noob" but can't accept the fact that a leap can do 7-12k uncritted.
Autism is real
So is empathy, you should look into it...1 -
ak_pvp✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.
Mag dk's don't need an execute.
Magplars needs a cc, e.g. shards and a good ult e.g. Spear ult back to magicka.
Warden birds needs to not go through roll, that or the stamina one should go through shields and stop magplar healing.. for balance.
Backlash and its morphs need to go off 80% the users dmg done and 20% everyone elses. Shouldn't be a skill 30k tanks can use to get 12k procs via friendly, if you want high procs you should provide most of the dmg.
Sorc shields are fine.
Soul assaults needs looking at, it's a super zerger casual friendly IWIN skill with no counter.
Eye of the destro ult needs nerfing somehow, either a radius nerf or a duration nerf. Needs to be somedown to having a walking aoe of death in pvp.
Nah, Mag DKs do need an execute. Having to use leap as an execute effectively proves this. DKs don't have enough damage. You can get a sorc/templar down to 10% and they will BoL/shield to negate a large build up of damage. Warden doesn't because it has one of the strongest burst combos in the game.
If anything, magplars don't need a CC, drain, javelin and charge all do that well, and the mass AoE snare too.
I agree about the bird issue, it really screws over roll, which has been screwed back and forth already. And backlash+skoria+beam turns a tankplar into a damage dealer, so minor adjustments maybe.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
Best houseknight EU.0 -
deepseamk20b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭WaltherCarraway wrote: »deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »Most DK's are one trick ponies no a days. They let some people bash on them. Get their buffs or wait for specific procs, then leap. Rinse and repeat. It's hits hard, really hard and allows for good follow up attack of needed to finish someone off since knockdowns are great for that, more so than other stuns IMO. Nothing much else to really say about it.
It's your problem to neglect a dragonknight midfight because due to nauseating stereotype that "Oh a sword and board dragonknight must be a tanky noob" but can't accept the fact that a leap can do 7-12k uncritted.
Autism is real
Wow. All I said is most DK's roll around holding block then wait to leap at every one. Leap hits decently hard. Never said they were OP. Never said I had issue with them. I was stating observable evidence I see everyday. Do you often just create your own conversations then reply to people about things they never said? I think you need a time out.Hey everyone! Look! It's a signature!0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »'Balance' does not mean forgiving gameplay that holds your hand. Too many people throw that term around whenever they get rekt. Game is the most balanced it's ever been.
^^^It is almost difficult to point out legitimate imbalances right now. All that truly comes to mind is Templar having a few bugged DPS skills (mostly affects PvE) and Warden being horrible at DPS (only affects PvE).
Besides that class balance is not too bad at all.
Over performing sorc shields, DK not having execute/gapcloser+skill issues. Templar not having a worthy CC + Skill issues. Nah, I'd say that balance is quite bad. In noCP its decent though.
If mag dks get a gap closer and execute i quit lol.
Gapcloser is less needed, chains has mad height issues anyway. An execute however is. It is the only type of ability that can't be gained for mag from another skill line. It is needed to make up for the low burst of a DK, if balance makes you quit, then bye.
Mag dk's don't need an execute.
Magplars needs a cc, e.g. shards and a good ult e.g. Spear ult back to magicka.
Warden birds needs to not go through roll, that or the stamina one should go through shields and stop magplar healing.. for balance.
Backlash and its morphs need to go off 80% the users dmg done and 20% everyone elses. Shouldn't be a skill 30k tanks can use to get 12k procs via friendly, if you want high procs you should provide most of the dmg.
Sorc shields are fine.
Soul assaults needs looking at, it's a super zerger casual friendly IWIN skill with no counter.
Eye of the destro ult needs nerfing somehow, either a radius nerf or a duration nerf. Needs to be somedown to having a walking aoe of death in pvp.
Nah, Mag DKs do need an execute. Having to use leap as an execute effectively proves this. DKs don't have enough damage. You can get a sorc/templar down to 10% and they will BoL/shield to negate a large build up of damage. Warden doesn't because it has one of the strongest burst combos in the game.
If anything, magplars don't need a CC, drain, javelin and charge all do that well, and the mass AoE snare too.
I agree about the bird issue, it really screws over roll, which has been screwed back and forth already. And backlash+skoria+beam turns a tankplar into a damage dealer, so minor adjustments maybe.
You can get a mag dk to 10% and he will ember back up to full. Highest embers i got was 30k in pvp. They'd have to lose something to get a execute.
Drain isn't good, you can't use it while blocking and need to cancel it, on console to cancel it you have to block a bit so you can lose stam if your taking dmg and you stop regen ticks.
Jav is very expensive, easily dodgeable and can be dodge via shuffle. Also it usually knocks them out of my jabs range which is annoying, should never of boosted it to 8m. Give back the stun on shards.
PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
CaliMade✭✭✭✭As a Mag DK, WE DO NOT NEED ANY BUFFS
Nerf shield play ehnchants or helping hands because permablock is cheese.....
Other than the permablock cheese Dks are really well balanced....
My whips are consistet 5k, 7K powerlashes
Powerlash heal allows me to eat Incaps, Leaps, beams etc.
Leap Comes often enough to count as a valid execute, same as powerlash.
Burning embers is nearly OP
Talons are a nightmare to deal with.
Leap will actually delete ALOT of Incompetent players and is amazing at crowd control.."lets AOE CC everyone and half life them at the same time"
Leap also gives a 50% sheild
MAGMA SHELL EXSITS PEOPLE! Destro ult??? good luck killing me with 900 dmg ticks
Db heal is too clutch
Resources on ULT are invaluable
Edited by CaliMade on 22 August 2017 02:09XB1 GT- Cali Made
Praetorian Stam DK Redguard
Brigadier Stam/magblade (whatever i feel like running) Redguard
Major Mag DK Dark Elf
lieutenant Mag/stamplar (whatever i feel like running) Redguard2 -
montjie✭✭✭It doesn't help that its been made undodgeable.
I once dodge rolled completely out of the way and got pulled back into it and tossed of a wall the other direction.
its supposed to be undodgeable
ingame experiences prove otherwise however
cloaking nightblades, streaking sorcs, players with expedition, hell sometimes even players sprinting without
dont dodgeroll.....just run xD- easy farmable saltbucket -
- retired QQ king of Daggerfall Covenant PC-EU Azura's Star/Sotha Sil/weird dragon name/Ravenwatch zone chat -0 -
Cathexis✭✭✭✭✭
✭DeleteEdited by Cathexis on 22 August 2017 06:27Tome of Alteration Magic I - Reality is an Ancient Dwemer Construct: Everything You Need to Know About FPS
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/520903/tomb-of-fps-alteration-magic-everything-you-need-to-know-about-fps
Tome of Alteration Magic II - The Manual of the Deceiver: A Beginner's Guide to Thieving
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/462509/tome-of-alteration-mastery-ii-the-decievers-manual-thieving-guide-for-new-characters
Ultrawide ESO Adventure Screenshots - 7680 x 1080 Resolution
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/505262/adventures-in-ultra-ultrawide-an-ongoing-series0