NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
I used to feel the same before I became more experienced playing in larger groups. I didn't play in a proper PVP raid until 2.1. Now that I've played with a variety of amazing leaders, I can appreciate the nuances better than I could before.
Though, IMO, it was more interesting before the vd/destro ult paradigm -- back when meteor had counterplay. For example, to counter VE's meteor fetish at the time, while in Rage, @recremen came up with a guard reflect build which worked beautifully.
I wish I had captured some video of the early 3.0 Venatus groups which were highly mobile stam based groups with maybe only one or two destro ults.
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Green circles, red ping, and weapon swapping as little as possible. Can you include more battle comms and audio in these clips? I do enjoy those.
Perhaps some of the other PoV videos would be more to your liking, In general healers only require 1 bar aside from buffing / survival etc. For me the things I can pick up from a healing PoV are positioning and prediction in a raid. We are likely looking for different things from a vid though ^^
I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
As exhibited by a single bar healer. Vile here would surely contribute more if he wove in the odd Combat Prayer for buffs, Purifying Light for priority target focus, Proxy for additional aoe burst, or Energy Orb for how op it is. You're surely aware that Energy Orb's heal per second is larger than Springs', lasts longer, and stacks indefinitely, and that it provides allies the same synergy as the Shards which Vile never even cast from his back bar.
Also two more things I noticed, casting Healing Springs back to back does clip one second off of each Springs' duration, yet he does it. There is space for one additional global cooldown between refreshing the Springs as they expire, if you insist on doing so. Keep in mind that Orbs is a superior hot assuming the fight is relatively stationary.
And the clip ending at 4:20 shows you fleeing up a stairwell and turning on your pursuers, and then abruptly ends. What happened there? Blaze it?
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Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Green circles, red ping, and weapon swapping as little as possible. Can you include more battle comms and audio in these clips? I do enjoy those.
Perhaps some of the other PoV videos would be more to your liking, In general healers only require 1 bar aside from buffing / survival etc. For me the things I can pick up from a healing PoV are positioning and prediction in a raid. We are likely looking for different things from a vid though ^^
I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
As exhibited by a single bar healer. Vile here would surely contribute more if he wove in the odd Combat Prayer for buffs, Purifying Light for priority target focus, Proxy for additional aoe burst, or Energy Orb for how op it is. You're surely aware that Energy Orb's heal per second is larger than Springs', lasts longer, and stacks indefinitely, and that it provides allies the same synergy as the Shards which Vile never even cast from his back bar.
Also two more things I noticed, casting Healing Springs back to back does clip one second off of each Springs' duration, yet he does it. There is space for one additional global cooldown between refreshing the Springs as they expire, if you insist on doing so. Keep in mind that Orbs is a superior hot assuming the fight is relatively stationary.
And the clip ending at 4:20 shows you fleeing up a stairwell and turning on your pursuers, and then abruptly ends. What happened there? Blaze it?
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Forum PVP =/= discussion so I think we are safe to talk about this ^^
Firstly Vile is far from single bar healing imo however depending on the stage of the fight there are different requirements.
Top up heals, individual burst, group burst.
I'm very aware of the strength of orb its something which we often rotate in depending on our size and style. There are also limitations to it. The healing is strong but moves slowly and requires a higher recovery build to make the most of the multiple casting (lowering overall healing) additionally orbs cannot provide static healing as strongly and only originate from the caster so in the situations you need to tank or run fast away it's not ideal as they won't provide the sustained healing required there.
They are very good for a lot of situations and we do use them often but I don't feel templars are the best choice for using them personally.
Secondly regarding the Shards. Having the option of a skill doesn't require usage in all situations. I might back at purge but unless my support guy goes down or is away it's unlikely I'll need to use it but not having it would screw us in those situations.
Combat prayer isn't needed with nb dps. Neither is purifying as fighting the numbers we fight ts rare to want to specifically wish to burst one target down who won't be purged. We have one templar using it though.
The vids are as much about entertainment and promoting group play as just a pure report of our raid this is why cutting and editing is done. As for the voice coms. Maybe
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Green circles, red ping, and weapon swapping as little as possible. Can you include more battle comms and audio in these clips? I do enjoy those.
Perhaps some of the other PoV videos would be more to your liking, In general healers only require 1 bar aside from buffing / survival etc. For me the things I can pick up from a healing PoV are positioning and prediction in a raid. We are likely looking for different things from a vid though ^^
I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
As exhibited by a single bar healer. Vile here would surely contribute more if he wove in the odd Combat Prayer for buffs, Purifying Light for priority target focus, Proxy for additional aoe burst, or Energy Orb for how op it is. You're surely aware that Energy Orb's heal per second is larger than Springs', lasts longer, and stacks indefinitely, and that it provides allies the same synergy as the Shards which Vile never even cast from his back bar.
Also two more things I noticed, casting Healing Springs back to back does clip one second off of each Springs' duration, yet he does it. There is space for one additional global cooldown between refreshing the Springs as they expire, if you insist on doing so. Keep in mind that Orbs is a superior hot assuming the fight is relatively stationary.
And the clip ending at 4:20 shows you fleeing up a stairwell and turning on your pursuers, and then abruptly ends. What happened there? Blaze it?
Maintenance is upon us! Let the forum PvP commence!
Forum PVP =/= discussion so I think we are safe to talk about this ^^
Firstly Vile is far from single bar healing imo however depending on the stage of the fight there are different requirements.
Top up heals, individual burst, group burst.
I'm very aware of the strength of orb its something which we often rotate in depending on our size and style. There are also limitations to it. The healing is strong but moves slowly and requires a higher recovery build to make the most of the multiple casting (lowering overall healing) additionally orbs cannot provide static healing as strongly and only originate from the caster so in the situations you need to tank or run fast away it's not ideal as they won't provide the sustained healing required there.
They are very good for a lot of situations and we do use them often but I don't feel templars are the best choice for using them personally.
Secondly regarding the Shards. Having the option of a skill doesn't require usage in all situations. I might back at purge but unless my support guy goes down or is away it's unlikely I'll need to use it but not having it would screw us in those situations.
Combat prayer isn't needed with nb dps. Neither is purifying as fighting the numbers we fight ts rare to want to specifically wish to burst one target down who won't be purged. We have one templar using it though.
The vids are as much about entertainment and promoting group play as just a pure report of our raid this is why cutting and editing is done. As for the voice coms. Maybe
Comms pls
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Green circles, red ping, and weapon swapping as little as possible. Can you include more battle comms and audio in these clips? I do enjoy those.
Perhaps some of the other PoV videos would be more to your liking, In general healers only require 1 bar aside from buffing / survival etc. For me the things I can pick up from a healing PoV are positioning and prediction in a raid. We are likely looking for different things from a vid though ^^
I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
As exhibited by a single bar healer. Vile here would surely contribute more if he wove in the odd Combat Prayer for buffs, Purifying Light for priority target focus, Proxy for additional aoe burst, or Energy Orb for how op it is. You're surely aware that Energy Orb's heal per second is larger than Springs', lasts longer, and stacks indefinitely, and that it provides allies the same synergy as the Shards which Vile never even cast from his back bar.
Also two more things I noticed, casting Healing Springs back to back does clip one second off of each Springs' duration, yet he does it. There is space for one additional global cooldown between refreshing the Springs as they expire, if you insist on doing so. Keep in mind that Orbs is a superior hot assuming the fight is relatively stationary.
And the clip ending at 4:20 shows you fleeing up a stairwell and turning on your pursuers, and then abruptly ends. What happened there? Blaze it?
Maintenance is upon us! Let the forum PvP commence!
Forum PVP =/= discussion so I think we are safe to talk about this ^^
Firstly Vile is far from single bar healing imo however depending on the stage of the fight there are different requirements.
Top up heals, individual burst, group burst.
I'm very aware of the strength of orb its something which we often rotate in depending on our size and style. There are also limitations to it. The healing is strong but moves slowly and requires a higher recovery build to make the most of the multiple casting (lowering overall healing) additionally orbs cannot provide static healing as strongly and only originate from the caster so in the situations you need to tank or run fast away it's not ideal as they won't provide the sustained healing required there.
They are very good for a lot of situations and we do use them often but I don't feel templars are the best choice for using them personally.
Secondly regarding the Shards. Having the option of a skill doesn't require usage in all situations. I might back at purge but unless my support guy goes down or is away it's unlikely I'll need to use it but not having it would screw us in those situations.
Combat prayer isn't needed with nb dps. Neither is purifying as fighting the numbers we fight ts rare to want to specifically wish to burst one target down who won't be purged. We have one templar using it though.
The vids are as much about entertainment and promoting group play as just a pure report of our raid this is why cutting and editing is done. As for the voice coms. Maybe
Comms pls
I know you just want to hear my British accent right
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Green circles, red ping, and weapon swapping as little as possible. Can you include more battle comms and audio in these clips? I do enjoy those.
Perhaps some of the other PoV videos would be more to your liking, In general healers only require 1 bar aside from buffing / survival etc. For me the things I can pick up from a healing PoV are positioning and prediction in a raid. We are likely looking for different things from a vid though ^^
I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
As exhibited by a single bar healer. Vile here would surely contribute more if he wove in the odd Combat Prayer for buffs, Purifying Light for priority target focus, Proxy for additional aoe burst, or Energy Orb for how op it is. You're surely aware that Energy Orb's heal per second is larger than Springs', lasts longer, and stacks indefinitely, and that it provides allies the same synergy as the Shards which Vile never even cast from his back bar.
Also two more things I noticed, casting Healing Springs back to back does clip one second off of each Springs' duration, yet he does it. There is space for one additional global cooldown between refreshing the Springs as they expire, if you insist on doing so. Keep in mind that Orbs is a superior hot assuming the fight is relatively stationary.
And the clip ending at 4:20 shows you fleeing up a stairwell and turning on your pursuers, and then abruptly ends. What happened there? Blaze it?
Maintenance is upon us! Let the forum PvP commence!
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Latest upload from Vile, Features some GvG style fights from past couple of weeks. Healing PoV
https://youtu.be/DMPg2JvsVN8
Enjoy and good fight all
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I've played in plenty of large organized groups like these ever since mid 1.6 and fully appreciate the nuances. That is way I'm asking to hear comms.
Which is how I felt when I watched videos like this a couple of years ago, but now I see them much differently. I think there's a lot to appreciate, especially in the Ash fight.NightbladeMechanics wrote: »There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Latest upload from Vile, Features some GvG style fights from past couple of weeks. Healing PoV
https://youtu.be/DMPg2JvsVN8
Enjoy and good fight all
Holy *** that shot at 2:41 was epic! Seeing endless blue pugs raining down on you and leading ultimately to your deaths, it has some sort of poetic serenity to it.
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I've played in plenty of large organized groups like these ever since mid 1.6 and fully appreciate the nuances. That is way I'm asking to hear comms.
It's just that you wrote:Which is how I felt when I watched videos like this a couple of years ago, but now I see them much differently. I think there's a lot to appreciate, especially in the Ash fight.NightbladeMechanics wrote: »There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »NightbladeMechanics wrote: »Green circles, red ping, and weapon swapping as little as possible. Can you include more battle comms and audio in these clips? I do enjoy those.
Perhaps some of the other PoV videos would be more to your liking, In general healers only require 1 bar aside from buffing / survival etc. For me the things I can pick up from a healing PoV are positioning and prediction in a raid. We are likely looking for different things from a vid though ^^
I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Latest upload from Vile, Features some GvG style fights from past couple of weeks. Healing PoV
https://youtu.be/DMPg2JvsVN8
Enjoy and good fight all
Holy *** that shot at 2:41 was epic! Seeing endless blue pugs raining down on you and leading ultimately to your deaths, it has some sort of poetic serenity to it.
NightbladeMechanics wrote: »I am looking for positioning and predictions, tactics and setup and anticipations and maneuvers and ult rotations and all the raid communication which makes group leading interesting. There is nothing else to watch large group play for (unless you just like watching lots of fiery deaths in rapid succession, in which case you'll find bombing more to your preference), as your lag excludes mechanics from your play.
I used to feel the same before I became more experienced playing in larger groups. I didn't play in a proper PVP raid until 2.1. Now that I've played with a variety of amazing leaders, I can appreciate the nuances better than I could before.
Though, IMO, it was more interesting before the vd/destro ult paradigm -- back when meteor had counterplay. For example, to counter VE's meteor fetish at the time, while in Rage, @recremen came up with a guard reflect build which worked beautifully.
I wish I had captured some video of the early 3.0 Venatus groups which were highly mobile stam based groups with maybe only one or two destro ults.
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »Some smaller group size fights. Mainly GvG style fights still. Clips span over the last 3 weeks or so although first clip is from this weekend. No voice this time sorry @NightbladeMechanics
https://youtu.be/LX0aSfyO4iA
All jokes aside is this the replacement for Haxus videos?
Edited for sh$& spelling
ShadowProc wrote: »Just when the daily farming Pugs "Haxus" videos went away.
ShadowProc wrote: »Just when the daily farming Pugs "Haxus" videos went away.
ShadowProc wrote: »Just when the daily farming Pugs "Haxus" videos went away.
To be fair, Drac features a lot of GvG stuff. As much as I may dislike their selection and the fade to black (in places) I can't fault a guild for showing their highlights instead of mine.
ShadowProc wrote: »Just when the daily farming Pugs "Haxus" videos went away.
Someone got farmed a lot.
ShadowProc wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »Just when the daily farming Pugs "Haxus" videos went away.
Someone got farmed a lot.
Always the same lame response. Yawn
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »Just when the daily farming Pugs "Haxus" videos went away.
To be fair, Drac features a lot of GvG stuff. As much as I may dislike their selection and the fade to black (in places) I can't fault a guild for showing their highlights instead of mine.
^this basically.
Also in this video all my cuts have been basically at the end of fights aside from tidying up stragglers etc. Was there anything in particular or talking about a previous vid?
Drummerx04 wrote: »
It's similar to watching 1vX highlights. Sure, it's cool seeing them fend off and kill 5 people at once, but that is likely not a realistic norm... where are the clips of getting killed by one good enemy player?
I think leaving a few more group wipes in the videos would make them feel more honest to viewers and perhaps even diffuse some hostility towards the guild.