Emma_Overload wrote: »Yasss Bloodthorn, one of ESO'S most underrated sets! Not sure you need two sustain sets, though.
Been wanting to try this for a while. Just can't seem to get hold of a decent flame staff though
play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Fury doesn't need a boost, it's an execute. Ults will hit hard enough with max Magicka.
All that said, my NoCP build is still probably going to be running a staff, because encase/Destro ult is probably going to be better for teamspeak group play.play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Definitely will work. Who survives a mage fury when it procs with them being under 20% health lol? I don't use crushing shock or destro ult, people still die to dawn breaker and to ice comet and when caught in suppression field during a burst combo. Don't need weave damage, my haunting curse hits players for 10k-13k, frags hit from 9k to as high as 16k (light armor no ward lower crit resist aka most sorcs) and a mages fury always finishes someone off when they are under 20%. Go watch some dual wield Sorc PvP videos from recent posts on live within the last 2 to 3 months. DW is VERY viable in PvP for Magicka sorcs.
"Empowered Sorc skills are a magical thing." -DW Sorcs everywhere.
dw seems to be a zerg surfing build.
dont get me wrong i like the idea but i canot see how u wana get ppl down from max hp without crushing shock / la weaving
Other way around. Force pulse and light attack spam is for baddies. I have to stop and check myself all of the time when I'm playing with a Destro staff. "Are you using your burst skills smart, or are you going full potato Min?"
DW is a great 1vX build that focuses on defense first, and perfectly timed burst with ults.
Yes, some Templar builds won't go down easy without heavy pressure from shock/LA. But there are more builds I can take down DW than I can with a staff.
play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Fury doesn't need a boost, it's an execute. Ults will hit hard enough with max Magicka.
All that said, my NoCP build is still probably going to be running a staff, because encase/Destro ult is probably going to be better for teamspeak group play.play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Definitely will work. Who survives a mage fury when it procs with them being under 20% health lol? I don't use crushing shock or destro ult, people still die to dawn breaker and to ice comet and when caught in suppression field during a burst combo. Don't need weave damage, my haunting curse hits players for 10k-13k, frags hit from 9k to as high as 16k (light armor no ward lower crit resist aka most sorcs) and a mages fury always finishes someone off when they are under 20%. Go watch some dual wield Sorc PvP videos from recent posts on live within the last 2 to 3 months. DW is VERY viable in PvP for Magicka sorcs.
"Empowered Sorc skills are a magical thing." -DW Sorcs everywhere.
dw seems to be a zerg surfing build.
dont get me wrong i like the idea but i canot see how u wana get ppl down from max hp without crushing shock / la weaving
Other way around. Force pulse and light attack spam is for baddies. I have to stop and check myself all of the time when I'm playing with a Destro staff. "Are you using your burst skills smart, or are you going full potato Min?"
DW is a great 1vX build that focuses on defense first, and perfectly timed burst with ults.
Yes, some Templar builds won't go down easy without heavy pressure from shock/LA. But there are more builds I can take down DW than I can with a staff.
This. DW is my new go to. I played with a staff until a couple of weeks ago. Now idk if I can go back. DW is so strong. It makes you focus on burst rather than mindlessly spamming crushing shock.
play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Fury doesn't need a boost, it's an execute. Ults will hit hard enough with max Magicka.
All that said, my NoCP build is still probably going to be running a staff, because encase/Destro ult is probably going to be better for teamspeak group play.play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Definitely will work. Who survives a mage fury when it procs with them being under 20% health lol? I don't use crushing shock or destro ult, people still die to dawn breaker and to ice comet and when caught in suppression field during a burst combo. Don't need weave damage, my haunting curse hits players for 10k-13k, frags hit from 9k to as high as 16k (light armor no ward lower crit resist aka most sorcs) and a mages fury always finishes someone off when they are under 20%. Go watch some dual wield Sorc PvP videos from recent posts on live within the last 2 to 3 months. DW is VERY viable in PvP for Magicka sorcs.
"Empowered Sorc skills are a magical thing." -DW Sorcs everywhere.
dw seems to be a zerg surfing build.
dont get me wrong i like the idea but i canot see how u wana get ppl down from max hp without crushing shock / la weaving
Other way around. Force pulse and light attack spam is for baddies. I have to stop and check myself all of the time when I'm playing with a Destro staff. "Are you using your burst skills smart, or are you going full potato Min?"
DW is a great 1vX build that focuses on defense first, and perfectly timed burst with ults.
Yes, some Templar builds won't go down easy without heavy pressure from shock/LA. But there are more builds I can take down DW than I can with a staff.
This. DW is my new go to. I played with a staff until a couple of weeks ago. Now idk if I can go back. DW is so strong. It makes you focus on burst rather than mindlessly spamming crushing shock.
Staff requires more insane twitch ani cancelling then I am prepared to do regularly to be *really* good at it. I can do it, but I don't enjoy the playstyle.
play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Fury doesn't need a boost, it's an execute. Ults will hit hard enough with max Magicka.
All that said, my NoCP build is still probably going to be running a staff, because encase/Destro ult is probably going to be better for teamspeak group play.play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Definitely will work. Who survives a mage fury when it procs with them being under 20% health lol? I don't use crushing shock or destro ult, people still die to dawn breaker and to ice comet and when caught in suppression field during a burst combo. Don't need weave damage, my haunting curse hits players for 10k-13k, frags hit from 9k to as high as 16k (light armor no ward lower crit resist aka most sorcs) and a mages fury always finishes someone off when they are under 20%. Go watch some dual wield Sorc PvP videos from recent posts on live within the last 2 to 3 months. DW is VERY viable in PvP for Magicka sorcs.
"Empowered Sorc skills are a magical thing." -DW Sorcs everywhere.
dw seems to be a zerg surfing build.
dont get me wrong i like the idea but i canot see how u wana get ppl down from max hp without crushing shock / la weaving
Other way around. Force pulse and light attack spam is for baddies. I have to stop and check myself all of the time when I'm playing with a Destro staff. "Are you using your burst skills smart, or are you going full potato Min?"
DW is a great 1vX build that focuses on defense first, and perfectly timed burst with ults.
Yes, some Templar builds won't go down easy without heavy pressure from shock/LA. But there are more builds I can take down DW than I can with a staff.
This. DW is my new go to. I played with a staff until a couple of weeks ago. Now idk if I can go back. DW is so strong. It makes you focus on burst rather than mindlessly spamming crushing shock.
Staff requires more insane twitch ani cancelling then I am prepared to do regularly to be *really* good at it. I can do it, but I don't enjoy the playstyle.
I hated spamming light attacks and crushing shock... just wasn't fun for me anymore. If I went back to an inferno staff it would be for destructive clench and the knock back in situational battlegrounds.
Speaking of battlegrounds and situational, are you still gonna run dawnbreaker? Or you gonna run negate? I was thinking dawnbreaker main bar and negate back bar. Negate on a flag carrier or on a capture point is going to be reallllly OP
play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Fury doesn't need a boost, it's an execute. Ults will hit hard enough with max Magicka.
All that said, my NoCP build is still probably going to be running a staff, because encase/Destro ult is probably going to be better for teamspeak group play.play enough sustain to survive and kill your enemies, not more. Amberplasm in no cp is plenty enough. Pair it with bsw or julianos (cheap alternative)
Bsw is stronger than spinners. 3 things to consider
1. Shields (pen won't affect shields)
2. Light/medium (already have 10k pen no reason to outpen or even add 4k pen when 750 spell damage is more)
3. Heavy (the pen still doesn't outperform bsw proc)
Even if your argument is that spinners is better than bsw vs heavy, it's not, you lose damage vs Eveyone else in the other two categories.
Be efficient.
Vma destro and defending resto with beserk enchant.
Frag shock curse degen fury db
Dark deal boundless streak hard ward healing ward resto Ult
Boundless and defending resto put you at 20k resistances then add your impen and the help of resto ult.
impen (doesn't matter how good you are with wards. They will drop or be removed at some point and this can save you. Higher value than any other trait for sorc)
Tri food (Stam)
Vamp optional (flame and db dmg is aids)
Serpent over atro because darkdeal (if you need more gen)
Faster you kill things less time you spend trying to sustain.
Burn bright [and don't die at all] die young
I'm thinking war maiden and amberplasm next update personally, but I'm dual wield so I'm cut off from BSW. With the extra spell damage from swords it should be a wash.
Agree on the impen, 2K makes a huge difference and you can get there with a few CP while still keeping infused on your large pieces.
I think immovable pots are going to be BIS with unbreakable eclipse next patch. That's going to be terrible.
Will your heavy armor build you posted still work out in No CP?
war maiden won't work, will miss fury dmge, ult, and weaves and crushing shock if using destro. that's way too much.
Definitely will work. Who survives a mage fury when it procs with them being under 20% health lol? I don't use crushing shock or destro ult, people still die to dawn breaker and to ice comet and when caught in suppression field during a burst combo. Don't need weave damage, my haunting curse hits players for 10k-13k, frags hit from 9k to as high as 16k (light armor no ward lower crit resist aka most sorcs) and a mages fury always finishes someone off when they are under 20%. Go watch some dual wield Sorc PvP videos from recent posts on live within the last 2 to 3 months. DW is VERY viable in PvP for Magicka sorcs.
"Empowered Sorc skills are a magical thing." -DW Sorcs everywhere.
dw seems to be a zerg surfing build.
dont get me wrong i like the idea but i canot see how u wana get ppl down from max hp without crushing shock / la weaving
Other way around. Force pulse and light attack spam is for baddies. I have to stop and check myself all of the time when I'm playing with a Destro staff. "Are you using your burst skills smart, or are you going full potato Min?"
DW is a great 1vX build that focuses on defense first, and perfectly timed burst with ults.
Yes, some Templar builds won't go down easy without heavy pressure from shock/LA. But there are more builds I can take down DW than I can with a staff.
This. DW is my new go to. I played with a staff until a couple of weeks ago. Now idk if I can go back. DW is so strong. It makes you focus on burst rather than mindlessly spamming crushing shock.
Staff requires more insane twitch ani cancelling then I am prepared to do regularly to be *really* good at it. I can do it, but I don't enjoy the playstyle.
I hated spamming light attacks and crushing shock... just wasn't fun for me anymore. If I went back to an inferno staff it would be for destructive clench and the knock back in situational battlegrounds.
Speaking of battlegrounds and situational, are you still gonna run dawnbreaker? Or you gonna run negate? I was thinking dawnbreaker main bar and negate back bar. Negate on a flag carrier or on a capture point is going to be reallllly OP
Open world I use overload for the extra bar full of spells (lightning form, defensive rune, mines, dark Exchange, rapids) mostly to avoid getting ganked running around solo. Then shooting star main bar for the guild passive damage, I love the the empowered frag/meteor combo.
Battlefield it'll probably be negate/Destro and the resto ultimate. You're working with a group, use what works best for them, not you. You can't win a 1v8 alone.