Should exploiting Infernal Guardian as a stealth finder knowing it's broken be a perma-ban offense?

pogopwns_ESO

Rohamad_Ali

No cmon . I hate that set to but because it was broken when ZOS made it , not because I thought some player was responsible . It is supposed to be fixed next patch .

DannyLV702

No offense. But are you stupid?

Edziu

maybe not perma ban but some punish for exploting this? because this is damn exploit when in gamges exploiting is bannable but dont ban those scrubs because ZO$ waiting 3 mounth until next patch instead of fast fix bugged crap like in other games devs are trying to repair fast as possible any thing which is bugged and exploiting.
Same punsish should be also to scrubs eploiting viper set by enchants etc on bows which should work only from melee attacks and more other things what we could to find what is now eploiting since some months because ZO$ dont want to improve, repair their game fast as possible showing how they have players just in ass as we see those many people on pvp exploiting everything what can be exploited

Minalan

Can we make exploiting double proc gank mechanics bannable too?

Seratopia

DannyLV702 wrote: »

No offense. But are you stupid?

My favorite response.

Sandman929

Ummm, no. The set was poorly thought out and poorly implemented, since stealth doesn't remove you as a valid target. It's going to be worse now that the wearer/wearers will be able to go into a small room and focus every mortar on anyone who follows.
But hey, at least they can't crit, right?

Arthg

Perma-ban , listen to yourself.

You want to be using a flame-thrower on a mosquito.

If only cheat-engineers were perma-banned...

Rohamad_Ali

Permanent Bans should be reserved only for Cheat Engine , The worse types of harassment , Gold Sellers and Bots . You don't perma ban players over broken sets because some players don't read the forums or even know some sets are broken . If somethings really broken , ZOS should remove it before banning players . Don't re release it until it's fixed .

Armitas

Judge Dread?

GreenSoup2HoT

There should be a way to disable sets or abilities that are broken (for pvp). It wasn't fun dealing with vicecannon breaking cloak, it wasn't fun when spiked armour dot was breaking cloak. Its still not fun when Infernal Guardian is breaking LOS rules and following you in cloak.

In general there has always been an ongoing issue for cloak users and it does suck. At the moment im waiting till February on console to play again because everyone is using Infernal Guardian. Its helmet was in the Cryodill Vendor 2 weeks ago, everyone has it.

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Permanent Bans should be reserved only for Cheat Engine , The worse types of harassment , Gold Sellers and Bots . You don't perma ban players over broken sets because some players don't read the forums or even know some sets are broken . If somethings really broken , ZOS should remove it before banning players . Don't re release it until it's fixed .

@Rohamad_Ali making tons of sense like usual by using logic. Well played.

MalakithAlamahdi

Why'd you ever ban someone for ZoS'es incompetence?

Gilvoth

Edziu wrote: »

ZO$ waiting 3 mounth until next patch instead of fast fix bugged crap like in other games devs are trying to repair fast as possible any thing which is bugged and exploiting.

That* is where our anger should be aimed at, not the players.

pogopwns_ESO

They threatened perma-ban over the use of a broken set before last patch, did we all forget that Danny?

Rohamad_Ali

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

They threatened perma-ban over the use of a broken set before last patch, did we all forget that?

No I haven't . Salvation should of been removed , not the players .

pogopwns_ESO

really though, just because devs release broken items, there should be no punishment for those who repeatedly and shamelessly exploit them every single patch? idk man

pattyLtd

Hahaha you joking right?

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

really though, just because devs release broken items, there should be no punishment for those who repeatedly and shamelessly exploit them every single patch? idk man

No, get real seriously.
Permaban players for using a set thats strong?

It's not broken they just didnt realize how much impact it would be or should they ban everyone thats using proc sets aswell?

Rohamad_Ali

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

really though, just because devs release broken items, there should be no punishment for those who repeatedly and shamelessly exploit them every single patch? idk man

I understand broken sets are frustrating and ruin many things . Remember that all of these things were tested and reported . ZOS makes an announcement saying don't use them , we didn't fix it . Someone doesn't read the forums , pves with it and gets banned .

That's not justified . That's not even responsible for a game company .

Other companies hotfix these things cause they know this scenario happens . Other companies do roll backs to protect players from their mistakes . Sure some do it on purpose , but you don't punish everyone for a mistake you created .

Rohamad_Ali

Here is the big problem we are facing with ZOS now . Waiting half a year for a broken set to get a fix . That is terrible management of a game . I'm putting that lightly .

pogopwns_ESO

pattyLtd wrote: »

Hahaha you joking right?

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

really though, just because devs release broken items, there should be no punishment for those who repeatedly and shamelessly exploit them every single patch? idk man

No, get real seriously.
Permaban players for using a set thats strong?

It's not broken they just didnt realize how much impact it would be or should they ban everyone thats using proc sets aswell?

It's not the set being strong that's a problem, it's that it's being used and exploited to break intended game mechanics. It ignores stealth and LoS mechanics unintentionally. If it were a question of it being too strong, infernal would be one of the last sets in question tbh.

DannyLV702

DannyLV702 wrote: »

No offense. But are you stupid?

I take that back that was mean

pattyLtd

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

pattyLtd wrote: »

Hahaha you joking right?

pogopwns_ESO wrote: »

really though, just because devs release broken items, there should be no punishment for those who repeatedly and shamelessly exploit them every single patch? idk man

No, get real seriously.
Permaban players for using a set thats strong?

It's not broken they just didnt realize how much impact it would be or should they ban everyone thats using proc sets aswell?

It's not the set being strong that's a problem, it's that it's being used and exploited to break intended game mechanics. It ignores stealth and LoS mechanics unintentionally. If it were a question of it being too strong, infernal would be one of the last sets in question tbh.

Well too me that makes it strong does t necessarily have to be damage wise.
Personally i used to think it was working as intended but i believe they acknowledged it wasnt now.

Either way my point stands.
Bans and especially permanent ones are not something to take lightly. Not if you like having customers anyway.

Kutsuu

It's not their fault that the set works like this. They could just be casting shields while in combat and pop someone not knowing they were there, and you expect them to be banned for it? lol.

Unsent.Soul

DannyLV702 wrote: »

No offense. But are you stupid?

This was my first thought as well. Edited for being a jackass.

Solariken

ZOS should just fix their damned game.

CatchMeTrolling

People that knowingly exploit should be penalized, a perma ban is too much , albeit people basically saying it's okay to exploit are hilarious. Just because you can do it doesn't mean you're not in the wrong.

With the logic I see on here I could justify a robbery being okay simply because of the incompetence of others rather than being accountable for my own actions but I digress.

The_Protagonist

While we're at it, lets perma-ban all the single ability spammers.

Grow up and learn to understand what is really going on before making statements like this.

Knootewoot

I really hate that set since it targets me even when I am not in combat and not in a group who is in combat.

But I do not blame the players for using it. Yes, some use it actively as a stealth detector and others just cast their shields to survive and do it unintentionally.

But perma-ban is a bit harsh.

I think we should all point our fingers @Zos for creating ridiculous sets that ruin PvP.

And instead of nerfing them and affect PvE, there should be a non-CP and CP-campaign which only allows or crafted armor or non-proc sets.

DannyLV702

If shields didn't last for a *** 6 seconds I wouldn't have to spam my shields out of combat. Gg zos

Biro123

How would you know if they are knowingly exploiting... lets face it, if a light armour user has even an inkling that a stealthier is around - and therefore an incoming gank - he's gonna be spamming shields - infernal or not.